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Posted on 05-07-08 1:51 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Your bet in the Kentucky derby has died after coming second to the Big Brown

Your Second Grade Report Card was leaked from White House documents. The report shows that you had flunked Mathematics . No wonder you hesitate to see that the math/stat is heavily against your prospect for the candidacy. It's virtually impossible for you to win from here on.

What's more:

1) Former senator George McGovern -- your staunch supporter  -- switching his endorsement from you to Obama saying "It's time to quit"

2) Looming financial state of your campaign.

don't look rosy at all and if that's not enough,

Mark my words--within the next couple of weeks, most of the remaining (some 280) Super-delegates will sway towards Obama, forcing you to take an exit from the race anyhow. Florida and Michigan cannot be resurrected.

It's time to show some grace, beautiful lady. Get out of the way and let the big brown take on the old man





 
 
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Posted on 05-07-08 5:11 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Spring,

I guess it's not me or you who can say what is fair and unfair to Hillary. We can simply put our opinion.

I guess those who can vote (American people) will vote and show who is the  most fair candidate to them. Whatever the outcome is, is fair and the opposite is unfair.

However as a person there are lots of things as I mentioned above, that I really admire about her.

Sampada


 
Posted on 05-07-08 6:13 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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spring, yes it is their fault because they elected those people who made decisions on their behalf. Democracy is not perfect.
 
Posted on 05-07-08 8:00 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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pacifier,
she won't take the offer to run as VP (if she is offered that is). last i heard, the likely candidates, if Obama was to win the nominations, were Kansas and Arizona Governors (both women).

sampada,
McCain certainly has loads of experience and a cross-over appeal as well.  If he wins, he would make a better president than Bush in my opinion (but then if pitted against Bush, anyone can potentially fare better than him for that matter ), but his adamant stance on continuing with the war is not gonna help his cause -- not when the country is under humongous burden of economic recession. people are looking for change as is shown by the trend in these primaries already.

spring,
michigan and florida cannot be included simply because when primaries were held in those states, candidates were not even ready (Obama was not). Heck in most of the counties, Hillary was the sole candidate running. Now having come this far (time-wise), and spent billions already, it wouldn't be of greater interest and advantage for the democratic party to hold another rounds of primaries in those states especially and more importantly when the general trend of voting in the rest of the country has shown that Obama is the better choice.

and yeah, hillary is a potential women president who, in my observation, is equivalent to any other men presidents we have seen so far clad in woman's outfit (talk of change and and the idea of electing the first woman president)
 
Posted on 05-08-08 7:44 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Time and again, the wish of the voters has been reflected in the outcome of the primaries (even if you don't consider the delegate counts)
-Obama is the undisputed Democratic nominee.
It's time for the party to get together and seal the deal for it is in the party's interest as well.

I had a dream that a black man (or any non-white) will go to the White House and sit on the head of each meeting table. Lo and behold,  it seems the time is already ripe.

Hillary/Obama will not accept the VP offer? Come on let's get real. Which presidential candidate will be stupid enough to accept the VP offer even before the race is over for that candidate? If the candidate will accept that offer outright then he/she is not even fit to run. Please ask that question again after nominee (D) is decided and only then you might get the true answer.

As I have always been mentioning, these three candidates appear to be unusually promising and even Warren Buffet cannot agree more. (Needless to say, any candidate would be better than the current- the W.) Now speaking of McCain, he too has a great prospect of being elected. His stance on the economy and the war needs to be re-aligned to suit the voters expectations between now and November. Not only that if he picks his VP based on who emerges out as the Democratic opponent then McCain has a great probability of succeeding as well.
Bottom line is : whoever out of the three gets elected, we shall all release a great sigh of relief when Bush exits. Thanks God, the Bushes has no more children to run for President, as least for now.

Why so much oppose Hillary for being Bill's wife. Bill left an overall positive legacy with world peace, extended economic boom etc unlike W Bush, upon attacking Saddam Hussein's Iraq, who reminded of the banal Hindi cinema dialog "..Dus saal pehle tum ne mera pitaji ka khoon karne ki koshis ki ab tum tadap tadak ke maroge..."

If you are still despising the Clintons, then the next para is especially for you.

Here is what bumper sticker on a redneck's truck read during the lowest points of the Iraq war
"No one died
when Clinton lied"

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Posted on 05-08-08 8:30 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Sampada, Yes ma'am, that was what I was doing like you did, putting forward our opinion. I ,too, agree with what you said about her,She's strong ,smart and all. Then why should one gutsy, strong,capable individual be overshadowed by the last name she carries with her?. That's all. Loote, that's the story after they took the decision.If DNC had problem with that they shouldn't have allowed to even vote at all.
 
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Posted on 05-08-08 8:58 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Timely but rude love letter for Hillary. May be Obama can make a lovelier request.

Even with Florida and Michigan votes counted, Hillary will be behind in both delegates and popular vote count. Moreover, she was a single contestant in Michigan.

Whatever, she will give up before the end of June. She did say she will be behind the nominee whoever it is. She knew what she was talking about when she said that.

Also, she will thankfully accept the offer for Vice President if Obama makes one. The bad thing for her is the more cynical she becomes of Obama, the lesser the chance of such offer. I wish she becomes the first women President but only after Obama.

 
Posted on 05-08-08 10:47 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Time to throw in the Towel Hillery Dahling !!! Or your political life might end up like Barbaro or Eight Belles.

Only Miracle from "History of the World" can save her now.

 
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I see a "game changer" when Barack would defect into Hillary's camgaign.

How come she be thinking that it be her right and somehow she should be the president. Fnck off Hillary !



 
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Guys Dont say bad about the John McCain. He is the "Maverick" and no maverick can be bad. Beside he is the truest maverick. He doesnt do what is politically correct , he just cares about the people.
You know that everybody thinks he is old right; but since he is the truest Maverick, he keeps on aging. Won't getting younger would be politically correct? Unlike Hillary and Obama who do anything to appease poeople he doesnt care unless if it is far right evangelical votes.
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Posted on 05-08-08 11:56 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dear Hillary is Hillary-ous sometimes. Now she is coming out saying that the reason she is on the race is because white Americans want her and Obama is losing white votes.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-05-07-clintoninterview_N.htm

How in the world Obama is winning if he is losing white votes? I think the only reason she is STILL on the race and her ONLY hope that can save her is some Reverend Wright type of controversy.

 

My comment on CNN blog regarding her claim.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/08/clinton-touts-support-from-white-americans/

It is another lie. It is Obama, who is bringing all races together, thus winning, not Hillary, who has lost huge black votes.

I think she should be more cautious before making such remarks, for this remark is not going to be as cheap gimmick as the so called "gas-tax holiday."

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Posted on 05-08-08 12:12 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Dear Loote

I think she has made Barack Obama a stronger candidate and for that she deserves a big thank you. I hope she finds a way to gracefully exit the race at a time of her choosing.

As this article so aptly puts it : Clinton won't quit; Obama doesn't care

That said, here is the Hillary Death Watch widget - you can add it to your page on Myspace, Facebook if you want.





 
Posted on 05-08-08 3:11 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Clinton has too larger an ego to run as VP under the same ticket with Obama. Obama has clearly indicated (at least few months ago) that he wouldn't run for VP if Clinton was to win the nomination. So I don't see the prospect of Obama/Clinton ticket and the Clinton/Obama ticket seems to be out of question anyways from where we stand today.

If you ask me, someone like Richardson (who has a stronger hispanic voters' base) would be a much better and smarter choice as a running mate for Obama.

There is no doubt that Clinton is waiting to see if some drama (like Rev. Wright's fiasco) happens over the next few weeks (before the last round of primaries). There is no other way she is going to make it from here on. Oh well, unless Obama slips off his bathtub one of these fine days.

Hell, if the crossover voting ("operation chaos" encouraged by the conservative radio host Limbaugh) hadn't taken place, Indiana would have easily won by Obama in the first place.

Rohitgrg,
I don't deny it was rude. That's my flair for someone who deserves to be treated like that.
 
Posted on 05-09-08 9:02 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Source: http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=ba30ff16-a5af-4035-a883-cf15ffee406c

Hillary Clinton, Fratricidal Maniac

The New Republic
Go Already! by
Hillary Clinton, fratricidal maniac.
Post Date Thursday, March 06, 2008

The morning after Tuesday's primaries, Hillary Clinton's campaign released a memo titled "The Path to the Presidency." I eagerly dug into the paper, figuring it would explain how Clinton would obtain the Democratic nomination despite an enormous deficit in delegates. Instead, the memo offered a series of arguments as to why Clinton should run against John McCain--i.e., "Hillary is seen as the one who can get the job done"--but nothing about how she actually could. Is she planning a third-party run? Does she think Obama is going to die? The memo does not say.

The reason it doesn't say is that Clinton's path to the nomination is pretty repulsive. She isn't going to win at the polls. Barack Obama has a lead of 144 pledged delegates. That may not sound like a lot in a 4,000-delegate race, but it is. Clinton's Ohio win reduced that total by only nine. She would need 15 more Ohios to pull even with Obama. She isn't going to do much to dent, let alone eliminate, his lead.

That means, as we all have grown tired of hearing, that she would need to win with superdelegates. But, with most superdelegates already committed, Clinton would need to capture the remaining ones by a margin of better than two to one. And superdelegates are going to be extremely reluctant to overturn an elected delegate lead the size of Obama's. The only way to lessen that reluctance would be to destroy Obama's general election viability, so that superdelegates had no choice but to hand the nomination to her. Hence her flurry of attacks, her oddly qualified response as to whether Obama is a Muslim ("not as far as I know"), her repeated suggestions that John McCain is more qualified.

Clinton's justification for this strategy is that she needs to toughen up Obama for the general election-if he can't handle her attacks, he'll never stand up to the vast right-wing conspiracy. Without her hazing, warns the Clinton memo, "Democrats may have a nominee who will be a lightening rod of controversy." So Clinton's offensive against the likely nominee is really an act of selflessness. And here I was thinking she was maniacally pursuing her slim thread of a chance, not caring--or possibly even hoping, with an eye toward 2012-that she would destroy Obama's chances of defeating McCain in the process. I feel ashamed for having suspected her motives.

Still, there are a few flaws in Clinton's trial-by-smear method. The first is that her attacks on Obama are not a fair proxy for what he'd endure in the general election, because attacks are harder to refute when they come from within one's own party. Indeed, Clinton is saying almost exactly the same things about Obama that McCain is: He's inexperienced, lacking in substance, unequipped to handle foreign policy. As The Washington Monthly's Christina Larson has pointed out, in recent weeks the nightly newscasts have consisted of Clinton attacking Obama, McCain attacking Obama, and then Obama trying to defend himself and still get out his own message. If Obama's the nominee, he won't have a high-profile Democrat validating McCain's message every day.

Second, Obama can't "test" Clinton the way she can test him. While she likes to claim that she beat the Republican attack machine, it's more accurate to say that she survived with heavy damage. Clinton is a wildly polarizing figure, with disapproval ratings at or near 50 percent. But, because she earned the intense loyalty of core Democratic partisans, Obama has to tread gingerly around her vulnerabilities. There is a big bundle of ethical issues from the 1990s that Obama has not raised because he can't associate himself with what partisan Democrats (but not Republicans or swing voters) regard as a pure GOP witch hunt.

What's more, Clinton has benefited from a favorable gender dynamic that won't exist in the fall. (In the Democratic primary, female voters have outnumbered males by nearly three to two.) Clinton's claim to being a tough, tested potential commander-in-chief has gone almost unchallenged. Obama could reply that being First Lady doesn't qualify you to serve as commander-in-chief, but he won't quite say that, because feminists are an important chunk of the Democratic electorate. John McCain wouldn't be so reluctant.

Third, negative campaigning is a negative-sum activity. Both the attacker and the attackee tend to see their popularity drop. Usually, the victim's popularity drops farther than the perpetrator's, which is why negative campaigning works. But it doesn't work so well in primaries, where the winner has to go on to another election.

Clinton's path to the nomination, then, involves the following steps: kneecap an eloquent, inspiring, reform-minded young leader who happens to be the first serious African American presidential candidate (meanwhile cementing her own reputation for Nixonian ruthlessness) and then win a contested convention by persuading party elites to override the results at the polls. The plan may also involve trying to seat the Michigan and Florida delegations, after having explicitly agreed that the results would not count toward delegate totals. Oh, and her campaign has periodically hinted that some of Obama's elected delegates might break off and support her. I don't think she'd be in a position to defeat Hitler's dog in November, let alone a popular war hero.

Some Clinton supporters, like my friend (and historian) David Greenberg, have been assuring us that lengthy primary fights go on all the time and that the winner doesn't necessarily suffer a mortal wound in the process. But Clinton's kamikaze mission is likely to be unusually damaging. Not only is the opportunity cost--to wrap up the nomination, and spend John McCain into the ground for four months--uniquely high, but the venue could not be less convenient. Pennsylvania is a swing state that Democrats will almost certainly need to win in November, and Clinton will spend seven weeks and millions of dollars there making the case that Obama is unfit to set foot in the White House. You couldn't create a more damaging scenario if you tried.

Imagine in 2000, or 2004, that George W. Bush faced a primary fight that came down to Florida (his November must-win state). Imagine his opponent decided to spend seven weeks pounding home the theme that Bush had a dangerous plan to privatize Social Security. Would this have improved Bush's chances of defeating the Democrats? Would his party have stood for it?

Jonathan Chait is a senior editor at The New Republic.



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Posted on 05-09-08 9:10 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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And heres one, slightly on the lighter side, about how one woman sees Hillary's last days. The contrarian in me always finds it interesting to see someone speak outside the demographic boxes the media puts people into. Enjoy!

Source: http://www.wowowow.com/post/everything-i-hate-about-myself-i-see-hillary-judy-bachrach

Everything I Hate About Myself I See in Hillary, by Judy Bachrach



EDITOR’S NOTE: Judy Bachrach writes for Vanity Fair, and is the creator of thecheckoutline.org, an online advice column for friends and relatives of the terminally ill.


When I was 25 (okay, 32), I got dumped by my first untrue love. He’d fallen, six years into our relationship, for his next-door neighbor, a really pretty actress with the IQ of an asparagus and the ability to fill many a conversational lull with tributes to liposuction. But I digress.

The point is what happened after I got dumped. There was no stopping me. I wrote the guy letters. Long ones. I wrote articles, nominally on other topics, but really about him and the way he dumped me. These, unfortunately, got published. I phoned him in the pathetic hope of raising my stock by trashing his new girlfriend, along with the caliber of the movies in which she very, very briefly appeared. This was, as you will likely surmise, amazingly easy to do and also totally ineffective. I didn’t – couldn’t — let go of a guy who exchanged me for a moron, and I can’t believe these many years later that I’m telling you all this because the memory of my mortifying, excruciating almost erotic attachment to stone-cold failure haunts me to this day.

I was, in other words, simply a younger version of Hillary Rodham Clinton. I simply could not get out of the race, even though, let’s face it, the race was over.

What can I say? Everything I hate about myself I see in Hillary. It’s not the stuff you might suspect, either. Hillary’s self-absorption; her sense that the election is not about Iraq or defaulted mortgages or Wall Street piggery, or her; her Bosnian strolls down memory lane; her long and eventful relationship with Bill — this is why much of the press dislikes her, maybe with reason. But not me.

I don’t even hate Hillary because she screwed up health care. Frankly, anyone can screw up health care. It’s the other aspects of Hillary that make me squirm. To put it bluntly: they are uncomfortably familiar.

What kills me is the way Hillary deals with men other than her husband, especially powerful men. Whenever Hillary thinks Obama is onto something – a phrase, say, or even a piece of rhetoric, however tedious – she doesn’t do what most politicians do: which is to, say, challenge it. No, what Hillary does is fiddle with a syllable or two and then appropriate the last thing that pops out of her rival’s mouth as though it were her own (Yes we WILL!!).

Whenever Hillary hears a new idea, however stupid – ‘Let’s suspend the federal gas tax for the entire summer, and to hell with the laws of supply and demand! Let’s authorize Bush to take military action in Iraq and sit back and see what happens!’ – she grabs it, devours it, and calls it her own.

Then, if some new powerful guy comes along and disputes the very strategy she’s adopted from a previous powerful guy – like, oh, let’s say, maybe Obama might come along and dispute the wisdom of our military presence in Iraq — Hillary will turn around and repudiate every previous position in order to espouse that one too. In fact she’ll say she completely regrets “the way the president used the authority.” Like she never gave it up, panting and groaning.

I know I’m not supposed to talk about her that way, as though she were a groupie groveling before a rock star. I’m supposed to, as a close friend recently suggested, “understand that Hillary has to pander.” But you know what? One of the wonderful things about getting older is that you can actually stop pandering, and make your decisions clear-eyed, without reference to gender.

I’m voting for a guy.


 
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"No, what Hillary does is fiddle with a syllable or two and then appropriate the last thing that pops out of her rival’s mouth as though it were her own (Yes we WILL!!)."

She fails miserably against the Obama "cult " to prove originality of the substance. Very ironic read captain, and I second the thoughts provided here by but I still feel she would settle with VP unless otherwise proven.

I think she is too much of an ambitious lady and do what ever it takes to walk down 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue  and in other words she is pretty desperate!!

 
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Amy Poehler on SNL : (thanks Spring, I sometimes get confused -   being an infrequent viewer they  look alike to me at times - he he )

 

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Here  is some good old German sense of humor about "Hi(te)llary"Clinton - the funniest thing I've seen all weekend - enjoy!

Viewer discretion advised - not for the faint of heart when it comes to profanity for there is plenty



 
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Captain, isn't she Amy Pohaler?BTW, thanks for the clip
 



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