September 7, 2004
Dear all:

Namaste and good wishes.

You must have read about Nepalese tragedy in Iraq that twelve of our poor innocent brothers are killed by the Islamic terrorists. May their souls rest in peace. Why such cold blooded murder? What motivates people to do such heinous crime unprovoked? The motivation comes directly from the religion of Islam. Let Quran speak for it self on non-Muslims. The attached article is posted by a group of Iranian intellectuals who cry out against rape of their Persian civilization by Islam. You may visit their web site. A short reference is also given at the end for further information. You may also forward it to interested friends. It is not about hating any body, but about being informed. Thank you very much.

Sincerely, Tilak Shrestha

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Iran Politics Club.

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/ahreemanxii/page7.html?mtbrand=AOL_US

Quran on Non Muslims!

This is the pure true Islam. Islam is one & there is non but only one Islam & that is the Pure Islam of Muhammad. The same Islam that: Islamic Republic of Iran, Taliban of Afghanistan, Al Qa'ida of Osama Bin Laden, Al Bashir of Sudan, Moamar Khadafi of Libya, Palestinian PLO, Al Hamas, Al Jihad, Hezbollah of Lebanon, & other Muslim Nations, Groups & Individuals around the globe preach & practice. The one & only Islam which exists. Below are the exact quotes & experts from the exact verses of The Quran, Holy Book of Islam. These verses supposed to be words of Allah (God) revealed to Muhammad The Arab Prophet, in places like the famous "Cave" that he used to go in & out of every time that Allah was connecting to him! After the revelations, Muhammad used to inform his close circle of followers Salman Farsi (a Persian Traitor who wrote Quran), Ali (The Fourth Khalifat of Rashedin & CO-Designer of Quran), & Abu Bakr (The First Khalifat of Rashedin) plus a few others, so they would write all these revelations down, add, deduct & design all the material & name it Quran, The Holy Book of Islam! Understand that according to Quran:

"All Non Muslims are Apostates, Atheists & Kafar Infidels, to fight them. & to shed their blood is Halaal & recommended."

"When conquering The Non Muslim's Land, they shall either: Become Muslim, Pay Jaziyah (ransom) to remain in their faith, or be eliminated by the sword of Islam."

Of course there was always the fourth choice for the conquered: To leave one's home & land to exile in to the foreign lands, like the Numerous of The Persian Opposition is now in Exile! The problem with many Muslims & many other Non Muslims who say: "Fundamentalism is not the true Islam", is that they have never actually read the original text of Quran on their own. They have always heard about Mullahs or other religious cleric's commentaries & interpretations of Quran! If one reads Quran on his own, he shall see the reality & the true nature of Quran as it is. The text & scripture is very clear & understandable.

During these days of crisis & uncertainty that the Neo Muslims around the world are trying to defend Islam & do a "Patch Job" & "Cover Up" on all the inhuman murders which Islam has been committed throw the centuries, it is our duty to educate ourselves so then we can educate the others about the true nature of Muhammad, Islam & Quran. Here are some of the quotes from the famous verses of Quran to Muslims & Muhammad regarding how to deal with Non Muslims & how Allah shall deal with them:

Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you, seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong doers. (Quran: Al Ma'idah: 5 - 51)

Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made your religion a jest and a pasttime. (Quran: Al Ma'idah: 5 - 57)

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jaziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued. (Quran: Al Taubah: 9 - 29)

When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. (Quran: Al Anfal: 8 - 12)

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land Is: 'Execution, or Crucifixion, or the Cutting and Removing Off of hands and feet from OPPOSITE sides, or exile from the land.' That is their disgrace in this world and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter." (Quran: Al-Ma'idah: 5 - 33)

LOOK AT YOUR OWN BEFORE YOU START POINTING FINGERS AT OTHERS!

HINDU Extremist Groups:

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) ý the "National Volunteer Corp." ý a nationalist Hindu party which espouses a return to Hindu values and cultural norms. The group was responsible for the murder of Mahatma Ghandi.

Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) ý a Hindu religious organization affiliated with the RSS. On September 30, 1998 the Secretary of the VHP warned Christian missionaries to get out of India. In December of the same year the VHP announced that it would launch a campaign to stop missionaries from converting Hindus to Christianity.

Bajrang Dal ý a militant Hindu youth organization which boasts about half a million members., many of whom receive military training.
Sangh Parivar ý the extreme fanatical group that murdered missionary Graham Staines and his sons. It controls much of Gujarat and Uttar Pradesh states.
Recent Actions:

May 22, 2003 - One Catholic nun was killed and another was injured after Islamic extremists threw grenades at the St. Lukas Convent School in Nai Basti, Anantnag in the Indian-controlled area of Kashmir. Sister Kamlesh was killed in the attack on the convent, which was believed to be a result of exaggerated media reports claiming thousands of Muslims were converting to Christianity in Kashmir. (Compass Direct)

March 26, 2003 - The Gujurat Freedom of Religion Bill was passed in the State Assembly. The bill bans religious conversions by coercion and stipulates a prison sentence of up to three years and a fine of 50,000 rupees for being involved in a forcible conversion. The law further states that all conversions must be registered and accepted by the District Magistrate. Failure to register a conversion is liable to a fine or up to one year in prison. (ANS)

March 12, 2003 - Hindus attacked and damaged a Protestant Church in Maharashtra after church members refused to re-convert to Hinduism. At least one member of the congregation has received death threats. (VOM)

March 2003 - Gospel for Asia reported that the men who beat Titus for showing the Jesus film are now eager to see the film themselves (see February 18, 2003 below). Titus' equipment was returned to him undamaged. (GFA/ANS)

February 2003 - A. Anthony, a Roman Catholic priest, was robbed at gunpoint in Chintalapudi. The culprits are believed to have been Hindu extremists. (Compass Direct)

....Crimes of Hindu Extremist groups continued.........

February 2003 - The Criminal Investigation Department of Gujarat state has been conducting surveys among the Christian community in preparation for an anti-conversion bill scheduled to be considered by the state legislature in late March. Christians have complained that the surveys have been conducted in a very intimidating way. The surveys demanded information on the number of conversions, the reason for these conversions, as well as information on funding from overseas. The All-India Christian Council filed a complaint with the Gujarat High Court over the use of the surveys, which have currently been halted. Last year similar surveys were conducted in the Muslim community just prior to brutal attacks on the Muslim community by Hindu fundamentalists. (Compass Direct)

February 18, 2003 - An Indian evangelist and several of his team members were beaten while showing the Jesus film in Jharkhand. Twenty-six-year-old Titus was strangled, punched, and beaten with sticks until he passed out. Christian friends carried him to their house where an angry crowd later gathered to demand that Titus renounce his faith. He was beaten again when he refused to deny Christ. Currently the village leaders are refusing to return Titus's video equipment without a ransom and have demanded that he and two Christian families from the village provide food for 2,000 village people for two days. Village leaders may be plotting a way to force the two Christian families to return to an animist faith. (Gospel for Asia)

February 2003 - The BJP government is beginning to align itself more closely with the RSS and VHP (see extremist groups above) to advance the Hindutva agenda. It is feared that a national anti-conversion law similar to the one currently in place in Tamil Nadu may not be far off. Some new cabinet members are aggressively anti-missionary. (WEA)

February 2003 - Compass Direct reported that a list of at least 50 missionaries has been given to Indian authorities by the VHP, in hopes that they will be deported on visa violations such as the one used against Joseph Cooper (see below). This could create difficulties for missionaries teaching in seminaries and Bible colleges.

January 20, 2002 - Missionary Joseph Cooper (see January 13, 2002 below) was ordered to leave the country within a week after being released from the hospital in Trivandrum. Police Superintendent Vinod Kumar said Mr. Cooper had violated the terms of his vistor's visa by preaching. (Washington Times)

January 13, 2002 - Joseph Cooper, a 67-year-old missionary from Pennsylvania was attacked by Hindu fanatics outside of Trivandrum in Kerala. Cooper was beaten with sticks and cut with a machete as he was returning from a church meeting. Indian pastor Benson Sam and his wife also sustained injuries in the attack. Cooper was taken to a Trivandrum hospital where he is being treated for a deep wound to his right palm and other cuts and bruises. RSS activists are believed to have been responsible.

.CRIMES continued....

December 25, 2002 - A Catholic church in Malipota, near the India-Bangladesh border was attacked during midnight mass. A priest and several others were injured as the attackers threw bombs at the church, forcing at least 1200 worshippers from the building. The Catholics were then robbed of their personal possessions, including wristwatches. (ANS)

December 6, 2002 - More than 9,500 Dalits wishing to convert to Christianity and be baptized were turned back by police in Chennai. Several people were beaten and 11 people who helped organize the mass conversion ceremony were arrested in connection with Tamil Nadu's new law against "forcible" conversions. Chairs set up for the event were also destroyed and various human rights violations were reported (ANS/AICC).

December 3, 2002 - A Christian worker and four Bible school students were eating dinner in Sauncer Taluka, Madhya Pradesh, when they were attacked by a group of 50-60 people armed with sticks. Some members of the crowd shouted, "We will burn you alive, and whichever village you will go, you will be beaten up there also." When the Christians reported the attack to local police they were accused of converting people. (EFI News)

December 2002 - Compass Direct reported that Mr. G. David, the Chief Superintendent of Prisons in Pondicherry was accused of forcibly converting prisoners by the Munanni Hindu fundamentalist group. However, the Inspector General of prisons said there were no reports of forced conversions, though 3 inmates had been recently baptized.

November 18, 2002 - A local pastor and three Operation Mobilization workers were beaten in Goa after showing the Jesus film in a family home. The men were attacked by a mob of about 30 people as they were sitting down to eat with the family, who had been very receptive to the film. The mob also damaged a vehicle used by the Christian workers. Police eventually dispersed the mob and the Christians were able to file a formal complaint. (ANS)

November 16, 2002 - Hindu militants punctured the tires of Pastor VM Samuel's vehicle while he was visiting another Christian's home in Udupi, Karnataka. When the pastor attempted to change the tires, an angry mob of RSS activists beat him and four other men. The mob also damaged a vehicle belonging to one of the Christians. Local police refused to register the case. All four men were hospitalized. (ANS)

November 2, 2002 - An armed gang attacked the convent of St. Mary of the Angels in Parthibanoor, Tamil Nadu state. The gang knocked a security guard unconscious, cut telephone lines, and stole $450. The nuns were able to keep safe by locking themselves in a room. (Compass Direct)

October 6, 2002 - The governor of Tamil Nadu, P S Ramamohan Rao, issued an ordinance banning religious conversions by "fraudulent means" or "forcible allurement." The punishment for violating the ordinance is up to 3 years imprisonment and/or a fine up to Rs. 50,000. All religious conversions must also be reported to district authorities according to the ordinance. The new ordinance does not bode well for Christians, who are commonly accused of using coercion to produce converts because they offer food and medical care to the poor. Hindu fundamentalist groups are happy with the new ordinance and hope other states will adopt similar legislation.

You wanna know more... open your eyes, look around and let your knowledge be well rounded! Crimes have been committed in the name of almost every religion; Islam is no worse and Hinduism and Buddhism is no better!

Peace to all you knowledge seeking bros!

--3000+ dead on 9/11
--300 dead approx in Russia only recently
--bombing in spain
--bombing in Indonesia, killing hundreds
--beheadings of innocent Westerners, not just in Iraq, but also in Saudi Arabia

And this list is incomplete at best, and only takes into account atrocities in the last 4 years or so, approximately.

If anybody here tells me that there are extremist groups belonging to other religions on par with Muslim terrorists, all I can say is someone needs to put that pipe down.

Everybody knows that fundamentalists run rampant in every religion, but what distinguishes Islamic fundamentalists from other religious fanatics would be their much higher propensity toward getting swayed by their myopic thinking.

As an illustrious journalist once put it, not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslims.

At least in the last few years or so.

ANd to be blunt, there can be no comparison. When it comes to terrorism, Islam takes the prize hands down.

If you look at past misdoings, Muslims have comitted crimes more heinous than even the holocaust. No other religion on the planet is based on the premise of Jihad. To top it off, Mohammad was himself an astute, vicious military commander. Jesus taught peace, Mohammad taught war. Therein lies the difference between Christianity and Islam.

Plus, majority of Europeans do concede their past atrocities.
If they didn't, I don't think we would even be in America.
Then we got the bleeding hearts correcting racism with racism. I am talking about Affirmative Action that is quite anti-white.

Common guys...............u got to understand that ......................Hindu relegion is logical and scientific......................all the ideology and all the things has some values and meaning.

1. we dont eat cow coz logic is how can u eat cow who feed u milk and u have all the component in within which help u to grow........so cow is like second mother
2.ppl imagine god pic...........like pic of shiva....stuff like that..............they dont exist like pic
3. brahama, vishu and mahesh is nothing but electron, neurton and proton.........
4.Brahaman use to have tupi coz they use as anteena to commmunicate with superior creature.

ONLy thing i want to say is, if there is god then he is alien................................we called god ..........god stands for ( goods of desire)........thats it..........the word god became so big that unimaginable............................


THERE IS NO GOD..........................................WE ARE TAUGHT BY ALIEN TO SETTLE DOWN........................LIKE WE ARE TAUGHT HOW TO USE COMPUTER ..........................

STOP FIGHTING IN THE NAME OF ALIENS.....................................

Hey Major man don't pollute this sacred forum with your nasty koran verses. As the verse said Allah blinded the non-belivers...it is so true. Look ta the Fuc**Mulims all over the world, they live on the mercy of the non-belivers...so true. Be it in US,India, Nepal, Phhilipines,all over the globe Mulims are trated like dogs thanks to the mercy of Allah.
Look how US killed thousands of Muslims in Afghanistan,Iraq to establish a civilized govt., and the Muslims could not say nothings..oh please don't deport us from your beatiful country to our pighole.

Mulims read and practice stupid Koran of the mideval century and become more stupid and they become more desperate to come out of their pighole country and do anything to go abroad.Ask forfraudulent political asylum to the western governmnet. In India, they live under the mercy of the majority Hindus and when the hindus tell them to go back to Pakistan the
Muslim dog.. they started to cry...oh amnesty help us the Hindu Modi is killing us.

I don't blame the stupid Muslims, I blame that stupid Mohammad who copied Koran from the Jew's Al-torah. A bad copy, I must say, because that stupid don't even understand the Jewish Mysticism called Kabal ah..Instead he compiled all the hatred in the world in Koran and you see how just redaing that stupid koran made the Muslims, religious biggets and their IQ isreduced to less than dogs. Few Pakis and Bangladeshi do good smart accademically due to borrowed Hindu gin.They should give thank to the Hindus that we donated our gins to those low life converts.

Did I mention that how the among those three Abrhamic religion Islam is a xerox copy of everything that Jewish.Like all Jewish male prcatice circumcisision so the Muslim copy it.All the Jews greet each other with SALOM and the stupid Muslim copy it to SALAM.
The Rabbai keep long beard so the stupid Mullah keep more longer. What about Friday the sacred day for the Jews so Mohamad also told his followers to do Namaz on Friday.The biggest one is the PIG, the jewish considered it as unclean so they don't ieat pigs look waht the stupid muslim do... yeah pig is haram to the Muslim. And please read Altorah and you will find out waht a bad xerox is koran.

No wonder the Muslims are becoming the burden of the civilized world.

Om shanti


romesh

Thanx for the info. Those "nasty" koran verses aren't "mine." I merely added to our viewer's attention.

Sali Jee, Namaste and thanks for your comment.

In Mahabharat, Krishna does not ask to murder any body, let alone non-Hindus. No. Matter of fact no where in Hinduism or Buddhism killing is praised. It is about Karma yoga. The battle field is merely a backdrop.

However, that is not the case with Islam. In Islam it is religious duty of every Muslim to convert infidels to Islam. If possible nicely, otherwise by force. You may read in Quran directly. I have posted relevant �shuras� or passages. One of the principal concept in Islam is �darul al islam� - land of light and �darul al harb� - land of strife. All the area under Islam is land of light and others are land of strife. Jehad is fighting infidels to extend the land light into the land of strife. The mechanism of war is simple. First you dehumanize Kafirs, then attack. The Muslim soldiers are brain washed to believe that if they die in battle they will automatically go to heaven and have fun with 72 virgins and 28 young boys. If you win then four fifth of all the loot including captured women belongs to the fighting soldiers. The other one fifth of the loot including women goes to the central leadership. Even Muhammad used to get the spoils including women of defeated infidels.

Karma yoga is quite different. According to the theory of Karma, like the Newton�s third law, whatever you do will come back to you. That is, you have to face consequences of all your actions, good for good, bad for bad, more for more, less for less. We human beings will be acting one act or the other, and consequently we are always bound by the resultant karma. Even if we do good, we still have to face its pleasant karmic reaction, though pleasant one. Thus we are in no win situation. One way to get out of the karmic bond is to control ego through knowledge of self. That yoga is called Sankhya yoga, related to �adwaita� philosophy taught by Lord Shiva. However, it is difficult for ordinary working people to practice. Lord Krishna taught the Karma yoga for precisely those people. CONTINUED

Sali jee, (CONTINUED)
According to the theory of Krishna, when an action is committed by an ego, the karmic reaction will go to the same ego. However, if you do your duty as if you are merely a conduit of Lord then the karmic reaction will go to Lord, not to you. For example, if you imprison a person, then it is a crime. But if you are a jailor on duty, then it is not. For Arjun, a warrior sworn to upheld justice, the duty to fight the battle was clear. However, he grieved to see that he has to fight his own relatives (not non-Hindus). Here Arjun could have simple went along the way of love that he would rather die than fight. That is a valid �way of love� or �Bhakti yoga�. However, Krishna was teaching Karma yoga, not Bhakti yoga. Bhakti yoga is taught by sages like Ramanujam, Tulsidas and others. According to the karma yoga Arjun has to fight. However, he should do that as performing unattached duty �niskam karma�, not for victory or riches or revenge. You may disagree with Krishna and have your own way. It is perfectly fine. The multitude of spiritual ways is the hall mark of Hinduism. You may even criticize Krishna. However, you may do so only after reflecting on what he actually said. There is tons of exegesis on Gita to read.

There is one more important point here. There are many cases of Muslims following Quran and attacking Kafirs, beginning with Muhammad himself. You may read Islamic history how it spread in Iran, Byzantium empire, north Africa etc., and how Iranian Zoroastrians, Syrian Christians ran away to India and found refuse among Hindus. The state of Bihar, named so because of many Buddhist Bihars or monasteries, now it has almost no Buddhists. Because Islamists massacred them off. Only a few monks and nuns escaped to Tibet and Burma. However, you will not find Hindus fighting their cousins, relatives and teachers because Arjuna did so. Evidently, the battle of Mahabharat is understood by Hindus not as an exhortation to fight. THANKS.

Laughing Buddha Jee, Namaste and thanks for your comment.

Let me remind you that the heading of the topic is �Quran on non-Muslims�, that the topic is relevant because of the murder of our twelve innocent Nepalese brother by Islamic militants, and that the main thrust of my argument is the search for �motivation� for such heinous crime. So let us focus on the issue and post only relevant arguments. My posting does not denounce the murderers, let alone Muslims in general. The statements are not mine but from Quran. So where is the stereotyping? The issue is about �motivation.� If you have a better explanation, please do so. That will be appreciated very much. Otherwise why post irrelevant writings. The issues you have raised are important. But you should post with another heading, not here. You charge others being �one sided myopic stereotyping� and go �beyond finding fault with only one religion.� Before you state so, you need to ask yourself following questions. What could be the reason that these people were murdered? Is there any recent cases where Christians, or Hindus or Buddhists killing non-co-religionist unprovoked? Can you quote scriptures of Hindus, Buddhist or Christians where murdering others are given as a part of religious duty? Suppose there is one in Bible, do today�s Christians attack non-Christians unprovoked following such injunctions? Such passages, if exist, will merely be embarrassing part for most of the Christians I know of. You may point out the objectionable Quranic passages to your Muslim friends and see their reaction. They will never agree to consider it in poor taste.

It is true that many Christian evangelists are trying to convert Nepalese to Christianity by inducements and misleading statements. Missionaries are not for understanding or exchange of ideas, but to take advantage of our poverty and backwardness. The essential Christianity is that �all the Christians automatically go to heaven, no matter how evil� and �all others go to hell, no matter how virtuous.� Evidently, this is simply not true. The simple truth is any boy can approach heaven by practicing good heart inside and good deed outside. Whether you are Christian, Muslim, Hindu or Jew does not matter. These brain washed people believe that only way to heaven is to believe �Jesus is Christ�, an irrelevant and untrue fact. Less said about this nonsense the better. Christian fundamentalism presents a different set of problems. But this is totally different topic. Christian evangelism is a far cry from sleeting throat of innocent Nepalese in Iraq. (CONTINUED)

Laughing Buddha Jee, (CONTINUED)
Can you explain the term Hindu fundamentalism? In case you have hard time, allow me to suggest that there is none. Because, fundamentalism comes only with insisting on a single world view as true and condemning others. But Hindus do have and welcome multiple paradigms. What you refereeing as Hindu fundamentalism is actually Hindu reaction against Islamic and Christian aggressions. This is a social and political phenomenon, not religious. You need to difference between motivated proactive aggressions versus reactive responses; and also between religious doctrines versus social evolutions. For almost thousand years there was genocide of Hindus by Islamists. The mountain �Hindu Koh�, Farsi for �Hindu mountain�, renamed as �Hindu Kush� or �Hindus dead�, because millions of Hindus were massacred unprovoked there. Look at the division of India. Islamists (not Muslims) were not for secular democracy, but for Islamic country. So their loyalty lies not with their own mother land, but with Islamic Ummah. Pakistan and Bangla Desh both are Islamic countries now, where by constitution only a Muslim can be President and Prime-minister. Compare that with India, where the BJP (Prof. Angana Chatterji�s fundamentalists) chose Honorable Abdul Kalam, a Muslim, for President. Please do not hold your breath to see if Pakistan or Bangladesh will have a Hindu for President. Yes, Hindus are reacting back against wanton aggression. Perhaps stories about Kashmiri Pundits, raped and murdered Hindus in Bangladesh, demographic statistics of Hindus in Pakistan and Afghanistan are in order. However, these issues are all irrelevant here. Because, even assuming that Hindu fundamentalists are bad, are you suggesting that some how it would mitigate the crime in Iraq? What is the point? You posted an article by Mr. Angana Chatterjee and listed crimes committed by so called Hindu organizations. Perhaps you should also mention the scriptures which those Hindus were quoting. Are their actions totally unprovoked? Do ordinary Hindus, leaders, priests condone the action? What Indian police is doing about it? Now please do ask same questions in Pakistan, Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia.

Let me to tell you a secret. Islam is not really a religion in the sense of ways of spiritual advancement. It is in fact a social engineering and militarization system. And that is the root of most of the problems in Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan. Kashmir, Bangladesh, Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Chechnya, Balkans and so forth. Please do not make sweeping general statement that all religions are same and all have similar problems and extremism. That way you are really missing an important point. It is like putting herbivores and carnivores together. The different ways or yoga including Buddha�s teaching is about search for truth and practices of spiritual growth. The Semitic religions are about tribal survival, militarization of society, believing sets of doctrines without questioning and monopolization of the world. Most of the world wars have caused due to the attempt of monopolization, not due to the practices of spirituality. Actually �Dharma� is the correct term to describe Hinduism, not �religion�. Joining a Buddhist Sangha is like going to a community college, joining Islam is like registering into an army. They are apples and oranges. Please keep this distinction clear.

So please do be careful to check relevancy before you post bunch of unrelated writings. It is only red herrings and attempts at obfuscation of the issue at hand. Remember, the issue is �motivation� behind the murder of innocent Nepalese brothers in Iraq. THANKS.

the white man sits back and laughs at people of color fighting each other on their religious differences.. hindus, muslims, and buddhists.. get a clue. it's called divide and conquer.

I fully agree with Pine. Naive Laughing Buddha has little clue the realilties of ISLAM.

Unlike the Quran, our Hindu scripts DO NOT call for the slaying of non-believers. In fact "Hindu" was a label given by the invading moslems from Persia. In a true sense Hinduism is not a religion limited to people who pray to Brahma, Vishnu, or Shiv. Hinduism in essence is a way of life, and anyone who follows the philosophy of "Hinduism" aka Sanatan Dharma is a "Hindu."

Our holy scriptures does not divide the world between Hindus and non-Hindus. We see everybody as the creation of the almighty lord.

On the other hand, Pedophile Muhammad's Quran explicitly divides humans into two categories: the believers and non-believers. Please read the Quran and the hadiths, you will find great faults and its intolerance towards other faiths. Quran is full of hatred, intolerance, and demonic. Furthermore, it contradicts Muhammad's "word of god" many times. Unlike its claim, its the least scientific holy book I've ever read. I have put my Quran where it belongs - garbage bin.

A religion founded by a Pedophile, caravan robbing, slave trading, terrrorist, and a self-claimed prophet, who promised VIRGINS, Homosexual Boys, and unlimited Wine in Heaven, surely must be a cult. That pretty much sums up ISLAM.

as I see it, the killings can remotely be blamed on religion. Yes the insurgents did use Allah and Islam to justify their actions but the political component of those actions cannot be ignored and even worse, cannot be substituted by Islamic verses.
The insurgents had been negotiating with countries and third parties and many hostages were being released. It just happened that they kidnapped those innocent Nepalis. They realized how little nepal's importance was and how there was little they could gain from their release. Dramatic execution would scare parties who would then be more serious about ransom for more "important" hostages.
yeah, they sure used Islam to justify their actions but it is ignorant to ignore the political component and hate The Quran and/or all the Muslims around the world. If what they did was a relgious action (as they would see it, at least) then we should be seeing executions like these all the time. the context and the timing is important. And, if such brutality is unique to the Muslims, how do you explain the Crusades? the ethnic cleansing happening in Africa, lets say... but oh right, we won't talk about that because Bush never talks about it and CNN never seems to mention them. It's easier to quite the Quran out of context, ignore how EVERY religion uses harsh language for non-believers and hate all the Muslims.

Dear Kaali Jee, Namaste and good wishes.
I agree with you only partially. It is true that in the hay days of European colonization the divide and rule was a potent tool. However we miss three important points here: what and why the religious differences are there to be exploited; how it is relevant today; and how it is related to the murder of Nepalese in Iraq.

As I wrote before we should not put apples and oranges together. Hinduism, Buddhism. Taoism etc. are the religions about methods of spiritual advancements. Semitic religions including Islam are about social discipline and militarization. The former group of religions is like joining college to get education. The second group of religion is like joining army. For example, in Nepal we go to Swoyambhu, Pashupati temple, Narayan temple etc. routinely. Even in China, Chinese people go to Taoist or Buddhist or Confucious temples as they please. Now try being a Christian for 2 days, a Muslim for 3 days and a Jew for 2 days of a week. You will be be appreciated to say the least. Because it is like being a soldier of US marine for 2 days, Russian army for 3 days and so forth.
To say that Hindus and Muslims are always fighting in India is really committing an injustice. You are putting cops and crooks in the same footing. It always has been Islamic aggression and Hindu resistance. The thousands of temple been demolished and millions of Indians being killed and converted by force is not a fiction but reality.

You really do not have to preach tolerance to us. We are for tolerance, coexistence and brotherly love. What you need to do is talk to Muslim brothers if they are for same, condemn anti-infidel passages in Quran, and practice secular democracy in their countries. To bring an issue of unrelated racism and colonization is merely an attempt at obfuscation. THANKS.

Dear Maximum Jee, Namaste and good wishes.
Let us make our opinion on facts not on wishful thinking. As far as the murder of Nepalese are concerned, let the horse speak with his own mouth. The statement by Army of Ansar al Sunna - We have carried out the sentence of God against 12 Nepalis who came from their country to fight the Muslims and serve the Jews and the Christians believing in Buddha as their God. We may not be, but they are clear.

I do take your opinion well that we human beings are complex and so many factors are in play. We cannot ignore the political dimension of the event. For example a proud nationalist Iraqi may see the US presence in Iraq as foreign occupation and even may resist. That is a legitimate political agenda. In that case, the person will be appealing to Nepal or for that matter to other nations that they want to be free from occupation. In the same token they also will be very much interested in the success of the election to be held in Iraq, though sponsored by Americans. The groups like Ansar al Sunna are in fact opposed to election. Because they are not nationalist, but Islamist.

When did I say that ethnic cleansing or Crusade is a good thing? But how is it related to the event of concern. They are different issues all together. Can you tell me how long ago the last Crusade took place? Is there any Christians countries today planning for another Crusade? Am I quoting Quran out of context? Please do educate me. You may borrow Quran from the local library and please point out to me. Please also provide quotes from Hindu\Buddhist\Taoist\Confucious and other scriptures where harsh words are used against non-believers. Please do back up your statements with facts. I will be grateful. THANKS.