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Nepe
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Posted on 04-27-06 9:08
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Following is a list of people undersigning a petition submitted to The Indian Embassy in Washington DC on April 25, 2006, which among other things requests the following Pressure the SPA to reject forming a constituent assembly It was found that some people were framed/misled. One such example is #19 < Name(s)/Address(es) removed by request - Admin > Please check the list to see if there are people who should not be here. I found my own name (#31 ), however, this name is tagged with MSc. I hope this gentleman is real and he is genuinely against Constituent Assembly. < Name(s)/Address(es) removed by request - Admin >
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Badmash
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Posted on 04-28-06 3:12
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Revealing people's name with their legitimate address without their consent to public is not a wise thing to do and is a violation of privacy act (unless it was already a public information). It can lead to many unforeseen consequences to people whose privacy are being compromised. So Nepe sir, I patiently await the souce of this information so that appropriate action can be taken to whoever created this bogus petition and compromised people's privacy.
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lonely1
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Posted on 04-28-06 3:13
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I respect the right to opinion and expression of these thapas, ranas, shahas, basnets, pandeys and other bhardars and bhardar's sakha santan. Of course, they will be able to express and publish if the current movement can institutionalize real democracy--unlike during the rana's and shaha's and ther cronies' terms. They should not be prosecuted for dissent or expression of such a point of view--again unlike during the regimes they supported, which executed draconian measures against people and free press. I would be the first one to stand for their rights if they were to be subjected to the same measure under any measure. Period. That's not the issue here, though. The issue here is not that of these people's rights. The issue is--when they claim to represent educated and professional Nepalis, can you expect them to have a clear idea of what they are doing (except intellectual bankrupcy and anxiety at the loss of their privileged position) if not some form of solution? (read my post above for just one example of their own confusion and contradiction). Second, do they owe some kind of honesty and fairness to the people they say have signed the petition? How fair is it to include people's names and change their degree or include people's names under false assurances and even include foreigners under Nepalis....?
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lalpari
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Posted on 04-28-06 3:13
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Pire ...arulai थुक्क bhandai ma kehi hudaina!! The wind is blowing toward you and the थुक will land right in your face! Bottom line is in Democracy you should be able to express your poilitical points of views without trepedition. I am only aginst NEPE if his intention was to get back at those people in the petition! And I assure you I am not in there. On the other front what will it take for Nepali people, other than me and some other, to realize that the SPA movement did not result in a long term democracy -- if the intention was not a long term stable democracy than that's fine .. but if it was then SPA did not get what they fought for!! Maoist will come out victorios in all this and by golly gee willikar all the Nepali people will wash the blood of their relatives in our tears!! I fear those days are not too far from now!!
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lonely1
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Posted on 04-28-06 3:17
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That's why blaming Nepe is just barking at the wrong tree. The issue is something else. You just want to divert the attention and still play the moral high horse. What a joke!!!
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lonely1
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Posted on 04-28-06 3:21
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No lalpari, if people can force the king to give up his power, they can do so with any other power--mandale or maoists. Just get rid of your paranoia or seek help. That's just bogus mandale hauguji--if we are out of power the Maoists will run a proletarian dictatorship. Ough, what a joke, again. Don't underestimate people power!!!
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lonely1
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Posted on 04-28-06 3:34
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This Laba Karki has an insane article recently published titled: Monarchy an antidote to Maoist poison http://newsblaze.com/story/20060424064951nnnn.nb/newsblaze/OPINIONS/Opinions.html It's straight from fantasy-land that argues Nepal needs a 'Leviathan' king, apparently oblivious to the fact that the man who commissioned this theory from Thomas Hobbes, Charles I, lost his head in 1649!!! Hope Laba Karki has chosen the analogy rightly. Nepali people might prove it right, after all. Who knows?
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Posted on 04-28-06 3:41
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Lonely, YOU MUST BE REALLY REALLY STOOPID. PEOPLE WHOSE NAMES WERE PUBLISHED ARE ORDINARY CITIZENS. NOT A KNIEVING POLITICIAN LIKE NEPE WHO PUTS A FUKIN SPIN ON EVERY EVENT TO HIS ADVANTAGE. THESE WERE ORDINARY CITIZENS LIKE ME JUST SIGNING A PETITION VOICING THEIR BELIEF. AND NEPE MAHARAJ HERE PUT THEM OUT IN PUBLIC TO GET SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE. SHIT FOR BRAINS LONELY DOES NOT REALIZE HE IS BEING PLAYED BY NEPE !!! YEAH HE EXACTLY LOOKING FOR SHEEPS LIKE YOU TO FOLLOW HIS HERD. HE HE
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lonely1
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Posted on 04-28-06 3:49
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BC, Hahaha, you gave me a good laugh. Just as you say, I am an ordinary citizen leading my simple life without any royal ostensation or regal pretensions like some of the guys in the list. Why would you be so patronizing and pretend to protect me from Nepe's "play" (to use your word) like I have nothing else to do or I care? Give me a break! This kind of argument you are making is logical fallacy, man. You don't have a argument or evidence and then start attacking the person behind it. I don't know Nepe nor do I care what he does or believes. I go my own way. I just saw a lot of bullshit in the petition and some of the people who signed it. So I voiced my opnion. Tetti ho. Or you don't want a different opnion at all? Wake up and have a life.
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chakku
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Posted on 04-28-06 3:54
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पिरे तिम्रो कुरा साह्रै चित्त बुझ्यो। यी कुकूर राष्ट्रबादीहरुले भारतलाई गुहारेको देख्दा 'हग्नेलाई भन्दा देख्नेलाई लाज' भन्छन नि, त्यस्तै भयो। छि:छि:छि थुइक्क... तर यी मंडलेहरुबाट केही गतिलो अपेक्षा गर्नु पनि बेकारै हो नि हैन? नेपेजी धेरै धेरै धन्यबाद यी राष्ट्रबादीहरुको मुकुण्डो पर्दाफास गरेकोमा। अशुजी, तपाईँको लेखाइको स्तर यति खस्किदै गइरहेको छ कि के भन्ने? दु:खको कुरा!
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chakku
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Posted on 04-28-06 4:08
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हाम्रो साझाको नं १ मंडले shresthaN, तेरो नं कुन हो माथिको लिष्टमा? तँ जाँठाले मलाई निकै नै हैरान गर्न खोज्दै थिइस् नि अस्तिनै! अहिले के छ तेरो हाल खबर? जिउँदै छस् अझै?
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Posted on 04-28-06 4:11
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ShresthaN pasyo dula bhitra !! thukka mula daduma paani tatayera mar!
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Posted on 04-28-06 4:14
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saale bhate was saying rubber ko bullet hoina real bullet thok bhandai thiyo mofo nepali janatako maya nabhayeko gadha lai bahiskaar !! mula dulo bhitra lukera kura garchas!! nepal ja na jhyakne teso chala kadera nun chuk lagayera batoma ghisarda thaha pauchas!! sala kutiya parasko taluwa chatuwa furti garchas
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Posted on 04-28-06 4:23
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चक्कु, आशुको लास्ट् दुइटा argument पढ्न पा'थे यो साझा मा। पहिलो ऊहाको तर्क थियो, प्रजातन्त्र बादि हरुले राजाको नगरपालिका चुनाब मा भाग लिनु पर्छ। गेम थ्योरि प्रयोग गर्या रे। नेपेले तेस्तो थ्यौरि स्यौरि केहि प्रयोग गरेको हैन, जान्ने नबन भन्दा बाजाबाज परेको थियो।मै जान्ने, मै बाठो भन्ने मात्रै सधै उहाको बानि रैछ,के था? तेसपछि आशुको दोश्रो तर्क थियो, सिनेटर लेहि को नेपालमा प्रजातन्त्रबादि हरुलाइ गरेको सहयोग् बकम्फुसे हो। तेसपछि मैले सोधें, हैन हजुर्, तपाइ किन खालि प्रजातन्त्र बादि हरुको बिरोधमा? तेति सोध्न पाछैन एउटा किताबै जति लामो तर्क आयो उहाबाट, म प्रजातन्त्रवादि, त केहि न केहि, ह्यानत्यान। यत्रो जन आन्दोलन भयो, ऊहा चुप। यो जालि बक्तब्य यहा राख्दा फेरि नेपे माथि खनिने?यस्तो नि प्रजातन्त्रबादि हुन्छ? अरु कुरो म जान्दिन, शहिदहरुको रगत अझै आलो छ सडकमा, घाइते हरु अझै हस्पिटल भरि छन, तिनको प्रजातान्तृक अधिकारबारे यिनिहरु सधै चुप। एक पैसा दिएका छैनन होला त्यो उपचार सहयोग कोषमा। यिनलाई अधिकार ? अधिकार त बैधानिक शक्ति जसले देशलाई हानी गरेको छैन तिनलाइ पो। जसले जनतालाई गोलि हान्ने, मार्ने गरे, जसले राष्ट्रको ढुकुटि बाट पैसा लुट्ने राजाको गुणगानमा समय कटाए, तिनलाई हामी जनताले के को अधिकार दिने? के नाजी लाई युरोप मा अधिकार छ र? जे होस, यसपाली चाँहि मन्डलेहरुलाई कहिले उठेर नेपालमा शासन गर्न नपाउने गरि दबाउनु पर्छ, म त भन्छु, जागिर दिने बेल यो प्रश्न राख्नु पर्छ, "के तपाइ कहिले मन्डले हुनुहुन्थ्यो?"
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chakku
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Posted on 04-28-06 4:26
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हो हो माहिला नानी ब्रो, त्यो shresthaN मंडले त गायबै भयो ज्ञानेले घुँडा टेके पछि। बिरामी पर्यो कि ओभरडोज गर्यो कि, मर्यो कि?.....but i don't miss that bastard. i hope he never shows his face here in sajha ever again. त्यसले आन्दोलनकारीहरुका बिरुध्द गरेको विष वमनको जति निन्दा गरे पनि पुग्दैन। मानव हैन दानव हो त्यो!
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Posted on 04-28-06 4:40
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पिरे, एकदम सही कुरा! तिम्रा सबै कुरा to the point ,छोटा, मीठा, चटपटे जस्तै स्वादिला हुन्छन। अशुका गफहरु दिन प्रतिदिन खस्कदै छन। लोकतन्त्रबादीहरुले उठाएका सबै कुरामा 'उल्टो' र 'बकम्फुसे' बहस गर्नु उनको नियति नै भइसक्यो। अब आएर उनले संबिधान सभा बिरोधीहरुको पक्षमा बोल्नु कुनै अनौठो कुरो हैन। तर मेरो विचारमा अशुको सबैभन्दा ठूलो कमजोरी चाहिँ जे कुराको पनि indirect बिरोध गर्नु हो। जस्तै यो धागोमा संबिधान सभाको आफ्नै तर्फबाट सिधै ठीक होइन भन्नुको साटो उनि संबिधान सभाको बिरोध गर्न यी मंडलेहरुले पाउनु पर्छ भन्दैछन। यस्ता छड्के कुरा गर्ने मान्छे झन irritating हुन्छन।
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Ashim
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Posted on 04-28-06 4:41
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mulale nick name change gari sakyo like chara127 and Rb adhikari already did.
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Ashim
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Posted on 04-28-06 4:43
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Ashu ko lekhai ma mareko musa (sino) ganayeko prasta thaha huncha kura direct hos ki indirect.
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chakku
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Posted on 04-28-06 4:53
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Posted on 04-28-06 5:01
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right or wrong i do not know privacy? if you just type your phone number in google search it will retrieve your address try it? if you moved recently it will spit out old address though
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Nepe
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Posted on 04-28-06 9:52
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Hi all, The list came here after discovering from a discussion forum that some people were misled to sign the petition. The list was here simply to alert more victims if there were any. As you saw, one Sajhaites found out how she was made a victim when somebody alerted her after seeing the list. I hope other victims if there were any are now informed. Some of the genuine petitioners might have felt uncomfortable to have the petition displayed here. However, I hope they understand that they also have been victims of somebody's fraud. The copy of the petition was not stolen from the locker of the Indian Embassy. It was lifted from a discussion group. So, you can say the document is in a public domain with a limited access. I hope it answers some of the inquiries and complaints made by some posters. As for the debate on CA itself, I will join if I see any interesting discussion going on. I am of the opinion that since the Jana-andolan clearly rejected monarchy, we don't have to make the CA a repeated referendum on monarchy. Monarchy better choose a voluntary abdication and let the CA work on more important issues related to making Nepal a liberal and inclusive democratic republic. Nepe
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