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hark_bahadur
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Posted on 04-23-06 6:43
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ON A SCALE OF WICKEDNESS MAOIST TERRORISTS' RECORDS IS INCOMPARABLE. THINK, YOU CAN BURN THE EFFIGY OF THE KING. CAN YOU DO THAT WITH PRACHANDE AND BABURAM. THE CRIMES OF THE MAOIST TERRORIST SPEAK OUT!!! THEY MUST PAY WITH THEIR LIVES. THESE TERRORIST MASTERMIND MUST DIE. DONOT BE DECEIVED BY THE MAOISTs. NEPALI PEOPLE, UNITE AGAIST THE MAOIST TERRORISM. THE MAOIST TERRORISM IS THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE TO A FULL DEMOCRACY.
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KnightCrawler
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Posted on 04-23-06 7:01
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Would be nice to see some rebuttal on this topic.....I agree with Hark Bahadur though.... .King should not have the power he has right now, but that issue can be solved by drafting a new constitution, thus no violence needed. Prachande and Baburam gave up the democratic process so they can rule by Fear...with the support of Guns and Bombs...And the SPA are surrendering to Maoists right now...wait until Maoists come right back at you and blow you or your own men !! Wish Maoists had killed a few top Netas of NC, UML when Deuba or Bam Dev were ruling the country !!
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hark_bahadur
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Posted on 04-23-06 10:10
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ONLY AT THE BRUTAL DEATH OF TERRORIST CRIMINAL LIKE BABURAME AND PRACHANDE WITH THE ETERNAL FLOWER OF FREEDOM WILL BLOOM. DOWN WITH MAOIST TERRORISM. THE BLOODY KNAVE TERRORIST MUST BE STOPPED AT ALL COST.
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 04-23-06 10:19
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I'm not sure if Baburam and Prachanda will pay but one thing sure about is the fact that Baburam and Prachanda are making Nepalese pay(in fact since last 10 years).
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karmarana
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Posted on 04-23-06 10:57
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Hey Maoists-supporteres.. can you give any valid reason why you guys support these Maoists Leaders (not the cadres.. )? I have nothing to say about the cadres... but these f*cking Maoists leaders should be eliminated.. they have brou ght nothing but pains to Nepalese... they are complicating everything in Nepal. What they are preaching never gonna happen, they know it, we know it as well.
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RamJhigini
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Posted on 04-23-06 11:06
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There is no doubt that Mr. Harke's words have some tinge of truth. With world immensely focused on the Terrorism for the past few years, we do have developed some ways to counter-fight it. At times, even US strategy to go after few terrorists instead of trying to find the root cause of it has been criticized. With this known, we should also try to formalize our own plan to curb the terrorism in Nepal, but the focus should be in finding the root cause of the evil. During the first half of the period since Maoist went underground, they were not as powerful as today and hence no political parties or government formed under their coalition even cared to address that problem. As Maoist were able to successfully implement their influence on the majority of the kingdom with their tactics of hook or crook then finally the political parties and the so called intellectual class as represented by the majority of the kathmandulis started thinking it as a grave problem. During the last few years of the late King Birendra's reign, it was realized that this problem be given an immense priority and expedite its solution. But to the utter disappointment of the Nepalese people that effort never really materialized. After the cold blooded assassination of the Royal family by Gyane and his mercenaries, Gyane pretended to well understand this problem and to clean his image in the international arena, he portrayed himself to facilitate talks between the Maoist and the then government which by the way changed so many times under his influence I can't even remember the number. But let us understand, King Gyane never had intention to have reconciliation between the Maoist and the parties, and whether you like it or not this has been his sole intention. Let us not forget the Maoists who have wrongly taken up the gun are also the Nepalese. It would be outright inhumane to wipe them all just because they have been associated with Maoist in one form or another. There is no doubt, someone has committed crime against humanity, but we cannot take the route what Gyane did inside Narayanhiti Palace and wipe them all. This simply won't happen because gyane has already tried this tactic but we know what it has engendered. If only we can bring back these Maoist back to the table and work on the overall interest on Nepal and its common people, we can devise a system to make things much better than the present, if not the worst. But, the Greasted Loser in this game would be Gyane(i mean according to him) coz he believes if common Nepalese gets educated and bought up equally then his power influence will be jeopardized. What a fate we have, this king simply couldn't remember a simple Arti given by his own forefather and our Great Kind Prithivi Narayan Shah,"Praja Moto bhaya, Desh baliyo huncha". This sometimes makes me think how can even fear be so selfish? well, my bottom-line for all these talking was to say that in every problem it becomes imperative to identify and isolate and destroy the Root-Cause. And my fellow Nepalese, I guess there is no doubt in your mind just like mine, that Gyane is the Root of ALL EVIL. Once this root-Evil is uprooted, all the branches, leaves or even fruit as a part of it will crumble. Let us all contribute to Uproot this evil, so we have a better reason to be proud to be a citizen of the Sovereign Nepal. The blood that many people have spilled won't go wasted and this uprising will continue until the day when we get The Blood, you know whose I’m talking of. Jai Nepal
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 04-23-06 11:08
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karmarana you wrote, "What they are preaching never gonna happen, they know it, we know it as well." Dude, are you still sleeping or ? The reality is what they were preaching is in fact already happening in the villages of Nepal for more than half a decade.
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karmarana
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Posted on 04-23-06 11:21
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Khaobaadi
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Posted on 04-23-06 11:27
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Hark_bahadur Maoist movement has roots in the socially, politically and economically unjust and unfair Nepali society itself. Democracy is not simply about freedom or expression, freedom to vote for some Netaa and freedom to put out some julus. Democracy is about building a fair and just society. The Maoists are the fruits of politically, socially and economically unfair and unjust society. If people can uproot social, political and economic unjustices and unfairness in the Nepali society...the Maoist will have very little chance to surface as some terrible monster.
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karmarana
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Posted on 04-23-06 11:50
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yeah, but they are also terrorists...
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Posted on 04-23-06 11:52
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मेरो पनि सहमत छ! हत्यारा, जनता मारा पार्टि चाहिएको छैन नेपालीलाई शक्तिको लोभमा जनता मारने कुकुरहरु !!
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le chef du nuit
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Posted on 04-24-06 12:14
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. exactly brother to draw an analogy the maoist insurgency is not a disease it is merely the symptom of a malady the methods of the maoist movement are bloody but their aims are EXACTLY THE SAME as the demand of the current huge non-violent protests: freedom from tyranny and a vision of an egalitarian society the maoists just believe that in a country steeped in feudal culture, the only way to bring this sea-change about was through armed revolution and while we cheer the non-violent movement on, consider this.. if g was not afraid of maoist military action, then at the first sign of urban agitation, he could have brought in ALL HIS TROOPS to nip the resistance in the bud. with a much more massive troop presence in the cities, he could concievably even have succeded as it played out, g misjudged badly. he focused on the wrong 'enemy' and allowed the movement to gain momentum, and by the time he reacted, it was too late the maoist movement has been a wake-up call to the country
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MAX101
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Posted on 04-24-06 12:23
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le chef du nuit, Nepal was ruled by Prime minister Elected by the People during 1996 to 2002, Maoists were fighting to replace such democratic system. I don't see how that means Maoists were fighting for freedom from Tyranny..
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le chef du nuit
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Posted on 04-24-06 12:31
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. oh c'mon we all know the post-1990 reality what we had was not true democracy it was a generation of inept and corrupt politicians perpetuating the same old shit, with the urban masses getting in some fringe benefits and those fringe benefits are exactly why most urbanites refuse to recognize that the maoist grievences were real greviences empty dishes in the countryside sattelite dishes in the cities im not saying that maoists should be allowed to take over they shouldnt not only because they are violent but because communism is a flawed ideology it contains a central paradox.. it seeks to create a classless society but it creates two classes.. a) those who know best, and b) those who should do what is best for themselves and with its violent hangover, communist regimes always carry in that vein however, this does not mean that they are demons they were just more opressed than you were, and so their reactions are therefore stronger
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le chef du nuit
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Posted on 04-24-06 12:34
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. if you ask me, if the maoists give up their arms and join the political mainstream, id bet that there are more people within that movement that genuinely care for the development of the nation than all the 7 parties put together its the party leadership that we need to watch out for
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Posted on 04-24-06 12:47
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.no the maobaadi do not get my sympathy vote - although i support the issues that they CLAIM to be fighting for. - they've killed teachers for intellectual disagreements with them. THAT IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY not some utopian ideal driven (read apologetic) violence. they chose violence and have not shown any remorse for it. if we try gyane and his gang after the revolution (and i say we should), we have to try the maobaadi leadership as well. of course, deals are always made during trials - e.g. make a public apology and get a reduced sentence, etc.
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Posted on 04-24-06 1:02
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Politicans were corrupt, during 1990s. that is true, however we had a democratic system where people could Vote out the parties they don't like and give opportunities to new politicians. I had freedom to vote any party I wanted. it was a democracy. There were no restrictions in democracy that said you cannot create "Class less society". There is plenty of path to make reforms in a democratic system. (Social, political, econimical..whatver..) how can you think a nation has to turn into a communist state to make reforms?? If nepalese people reward the corrupts politicians by re-electing them again and again. that is not the fault of democracy. Those leaders may have been corrupt but they still came to parliament through ligitimate democratic process.
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Posted on 04-24-06 1:30
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Prachande ra Baburam ko Effigy balne himmat kasle garun.... if one dares...they will be shot dead next day.... See the history of maoist..... how many people maoists have killed just because those people are against their philosophy.....few to name here... innocent actor Bhagwan Das Shrestha.... Surely Maoists are terroist... i guess by this time everybody knows that!
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Posted on 04-24-06 1:55
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Dear no more, Would you excuse Maobadi for killing your own mother, son, brother or sister? Of course, no. Why should other people excuse for the same crime? Everybody must take responsibility for the crime they committed. Before allowing them to mainstream politics, all maobadi who were involved in killings must be punished.
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Posted on 04-24-06 2:28
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wow.................. people hate towards maoist in amazing ............... but has anybody spend time to think what moaist is............................ prachanda or baburam ...........they r not fighting................. their 15000 odd red army ........other 20-25 thousands cadres...........every body is a normal citizen like us .....only difference they were not priviledged..................army and ploice were supposed to give them the protection (before they joined maoist)..........did it ever happend ............rana regime...or tribhuvan.......panchayat..........then so called demecrary ( girija shashan)............. garibi ........ anyaya................... how much tolerance ? ................... no security and protection ........... army police who were supposed to protect them started crime on them.....rape ......loot........before those people ( mind it royal army . police , hami , ya maobadi ) .every body is a normal nepal citizen first ................. i have heard in the news that ........... people are forced to join maoist ................. dude give me a break ............ a forced unit can never fight such a fierce war....never........moaist success says that they united .......for a common cause .............. over throw feudalism............ I saw a common trend why we priviledged don't like moiast.......... because they killed innocent people................ they may have .......... but who is covering the story ...........who has controlled the media..................... maoist ............if they would have controlled the media ( all the people would have been declared spy)........ like the way our present govenmnet calling terrorist to a recent protestor who died by a police fire in kalanki......... I really don't know how bad moist are...............all the media in nepal is control by govenment............... and they will use all kind of propaganda and false news make maoist look bad than they are............. moaist are normal people like us........ but level of anyaya....and unjust have forced them fight this war......................... some day all nepali people will get opportunity to have a kind of life that we are having right now..........that day nobody will fight moaist war .......... exactly like us.....................people like baburam and prachanda won't have a single nepali person fight for them............. that moasit won't be a problem............baburam ra prachanda llai tudikhel ma lyayera jhungadi ni hunchha........
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Posted on 04-24-06 3:25
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Maoists lai kunai pani haalat ma power ma aauna dinu hudaina. 7 party sanga milera bascha ra weapons falcha bhane thikai cha
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