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biwash prawashi
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Posted on 12-17-12 3:31
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Personally, I think the artist is a bit insensitive towards the recent shooting with such a poor and cheap portyal.
http://www.nagariknews.com/component/content/article/141-muhurat/50550-2012-12-17-03-52-55.html
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Kiddo
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Posted on 12-17-12 4:00
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Read: "I am positive Ravin's intention was NOT to mock USA"
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no_more_crush
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Posted on 12-17-12 4:09
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I dont think there is anything wrong here. IMO, the artist wants to reflect the fact that
"Even Santa is sad because of this horrific/inhuman incident. He had covered all the little angel kids wishes but there is no one to give for."
~ Peace
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SAP Dude
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Posted on 12-17-12 4:46
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This is quite insensative!!
Just because he made Santa Crying does not justify the cause. Why so much blood there? I hope the victims parents do not see this.
If Americans were like Nepalese, they would have pelted stones and burned down Nepalese Embassy in DC already.
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metta
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Posted on 12-17-12 5:48
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I disagree with the originator of this thread.
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mayatri
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Posted on 12-17-12 5:52
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sap dude and the guy who started this thread its people like you who would burn tires close the stores and cause havoc because people like you do not understand the art and the message it is trying to tell you,instead you start making up stories and start spreading hate just like politicians of nepal i would not be surprised if u guys happen to be from ruling nepali class.............and before u start attacking me with ur hate comment just let me make u clear what the artist is trying to depict....he means santa is sad and is crying as the childrens he was supposed to give xmas gifts to got gunned down by a lunatic..............yes thats what he meant to say neither was he insensitive nor did he depict more blood( we all know how much blood flowed there) so u guys when u start a thread or give comment be logical and understand the humour or philosophy inside it.................
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biwash prawashi
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Posted on 12-17-12 7:34
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sap dude and the guy who started this thread its people like you who would burn tires close the stores and cause havoc because people like you do not understand the art and the message it is trying to tell you,instead you start making up stories and start spreading hate just like politicians of nepal i would not be surprised if u guys happen to be from ruling nepali class
Dude you barely know me to make such a premature childish notion about me. I guess you happen to be the artist himself or a kin that is very hurt by my PERSONAL interpretation. On top of that I assume that you are a art major that happens to have a direct source of understanding of the artist's message in ANY picture. I do not know who is making up any stories. I am not making up any stories. I saw this cartoon and I posted here to see what opinions people have ABOUT the cartoon NOT about ME! I am not spreading any rumour, hate or anything similar to that nature. I am only stating my PERSONAL opinion and fact that this cartoon was published in a daily newspaper. Further you even go on to make a very immature and naive judgement of classifying us as from the ruling nepali class. I think you are the one who is trying to start a class-based fight here just by dragging that agenda in the post!
so u guys when u start a thread or give comment be logical and understand the humour or philosophy inside it
Yes sir, we shall seek your permission before starting any thread and in case of failing to understand humour or philosophy, you shall be contacted!!
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mayatri
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Posted on 12-17-12 8:30
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mr bishwash prawashi your rage filled coment proves how offended you are and how immature you are.you ar e the kind who thinks is the most intellectual around here grow up lad and get some life........dont elongate the small issue try to resolve it...your very first sentence proves how naive and pessimistic you are when u started your thread with the sentence this cartoon is insensitive which in no way is insensitive poor and cheap and mosty of the people agree to my point, so yet why do you cry like a baby and start analysing my sentence word by word??? grow up get a life and be optimistic and above all respect all stop thinking as if you have the greatest opinion of all...and stop criticizing others..............be a good human being this is my advice to you and i know you wil burn with hatred and rage when u read this but honestly i wont even bother rading your hate filled reply....have a nice life ahead mr know all
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Kiddo
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Posted on 12-17-12 8:37
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Like I said, it is not in a bad taste. However the art can be deemed a little insensitive if shown in US, let alone the family members.
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Posted on 12-17-12 9:28
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mayatri,
You are proving yourself to be a "Grade A" moron. Who cares about what the messege is intent. The blood flowing in the picture is the blood of 20 children who were shot down and no parents whose children died there needs to see it or want anyone referencing it. You are one insensitive crook along with the ignorant cartoonist.
No parents need a graphic visualization of the murder of their children regardless of what the hell the message is. That is just a general journalism ethics.
Gorkhey ko kira pareko buddhi !!!
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Posted on 12-18-12 12:36
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"Holiday season and this heinous act of terror, probably if there were Santa Claus, his heart would have crunched in sadness as well"
That's all am getting from this art above. It's not even cartoon, it's simply an art depicting what has happened.
So, what's wrong with this form of expression?? लड़दुहरु !
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mno
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Posted on 12-18-12 8:25
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Brainwashed by American sensitivity and american media. Why you all are so emothional about this cartoon? First look back at your own country. Why you all want to debate about american sensitivity? Are you all american citizens ?
American don't care about their children after 18 years and vice versa. They become burden to parents after that. Americans don't care even if their president is smashed by stinky shoes. Americans make joke and funny parody about it.
This is same as cartoon with bomb in Muhhamad's head. Buddha in shoes.
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Kiddo
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Posted on 12-18-12 9:02
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My english must be bad that it doesn't seem to get through some of you. Let me try it in our mother tongue: सर्व प्रथम, एउटा सानो कार्टूनको बिषयमा एक अर्कालाई होच्याउने, गालि गर्ने बानि चै सारै नराम्रो | हरेक मान्छे ले art लाइ आफ्नै तरिकाले हेर्छ| तेस्मा तैले येसरी हेर्नु पर्छ, उसरी हेर्नु पर्छ भनेर भन्न मिल्दैन|| अब कुरा के यो संबेदनशील छ या छैन| American media ले जब पनि blood - gore भएको वस्तु देखा पर्छ, तब अलिकति warning जारि गर्छ; यो सबैलाई मन पर्ने कुरा हैन| यो कार्टून मा येति धेरै रगत देखिएकोछ कि एस्लाई एउटा PG art भन्न मिल्दैन...विशेषत, अहिलेको परिपेक्ष्यमा| अझै यो art पिडित परिवारलाइ त देखाउने मिल्दैन|| तर, के यो आर्टिस्ट को असम्वेदंशिलता हो त? जहाँ सम्म मलाईलाग्छ, सायमीजीले व्यंग हानु भनेर बनाएको art हैन यो| फेरी यो art नेपाली पाठकलाइ target गरेर बनाइएको हो र तेस्मा मैले तेती आपत्तिजनक कुरा चै पाइन || अब यो कुरो लै येही टुंग्याउने हो कि?
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Posted on 12-18-12 9:31
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I wonder if the cartoonist would make this cartoon if he knew anyone affected by the shooting. In my opinion it's in bad taste. Come on you don't want to give your career a boost by drawing blood of children to add to your portfolio.
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Posted on 12-18-12 9:35
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Not only humans felt bad about the incident but Santa was sad too.
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SAP Dude
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Posted on 12-18-12 10:02
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San Bro...you said it.
The cartoonist is boosting his career with children's blood.
He could have made the same cartoon without so much blood flowing out of the classroom or even referencing the school at all but no..he could not let this oppurtunity get away. Or may be he was thinking since Santa was crying it makes it alright to up the anti by adding some blood in the mix.
Lets not try to justify with Buddha and Mohamed cartoons. We don;t have to stoop as low as those Americans who printed those and there were lots of Americans who criticized those cartoons as well.
Just becasue few Americans eat shit, we do not need think eathing shit is quite alright.
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Posted on 12-18-12 10:21
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डु यु नो व्हाटस द बिग्गेस्त प्रब्लम अफ आवोर सोसायिती, वुयी डोन्ट लेट पिपुल डु देर जब यान्द एवेरी सिङ्ल मदर्फकर इज अ क्रिटिक !
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Posted on 12-18-12 10:43
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हाम्रो देवी काली माताको मुर्तिमा तल राक्छ्सको भुडी चिरेको अनि काली माता को मुख भरि रगत देख्नु भएको छ. ? Is tha PG or R picture?
People protecting American emotion and Santa ( who do or don't exist) don't know. lol
This guy got some talent and guts. Who are we to care about others emotions? आफ्नो बारेमा सोच्ने time छैन अरुको बाल मतलब
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Posted on 12-18-12 11:26
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thoughts, you know that they have nothing significant to say and are just defending their beliefs with very little substance to back it up. I will chose not to respond to those posts. For others, it is your interpretation. I am seeking a middle ground here and will defend the other side whenever one presents the idea on one extreme. Speaking of Kali matako murti and ragat, हाम्रो कति मन्दीरमा देवी देवताले sex गरि राखेको मुर्ति देख्नु भएको छ. ? Is that PG or R picture? त्यो देख्दैमा PG भैहल्छा? कामसूत्र भन्ने किताब सुन्नु भाको छ? त्यो पनि PG भोकी अब? I don't think the art deserves to be displayed in US, but I doubt the intentions of the art is to invoke humor or anger.
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Kiddo
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Posted on 12-18-12 11:27
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When posters attack people instead of the thoughts, you know that they have nothing significant to say and are just defending their beliefs with very little substance to back it up. I will chose not to respond to those posts. For others, it is your interpretation. I am seeking a middle ground here and will defend the other side whenever one presents the idea on one extreme. Speaking of Kali matako murti and ragat, हाम्रो कति मन्दीरमा देवी देवताले sex गरि राखेको मुर्ति देख्नु भएको छ. ? Is that PG or R picture? त्यो देख्दैमा PG भैहल्छा? कामसूत्र भन्ने किताब सुन्नु भाको छ? त्यो पनि PG भोकी अब? I don't think the art deserves to be displayed in US, but I doubt the intentions of the art is to invoke humor or anger.
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Posted on 12-18-12 2:58
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Rabin Sayami is know for sarcastic cartoon all through his life. When he creates this kind of cartoon which is highly sensitive ( forget about feeling for American emotion, its all about humanity), people will raise doubt over his intention. Whatever his intention might be, the cartoon should not be posted considering the nature of incident and emotion involved. People should think outside my Nepal your America and think the from the humanity perspective. I am fine if the cartoonist is attacking against American interest but when human lives have been lost, you cant justify the action by arguing that our Kali Mata has been degraded too.
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