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Posted on 10-29-07 1:24 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Hey does anyone have any information about polyandry, i am looking for intresting article or video from Nepal, only Nepal. I already have one from National Geography and one from BBC but those are very old and common, i'm looking for something new if u guys have some info pls let me know.....

 


 
Posted on 10-29-07 7:26 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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HOW MANY HUSBANDS ?

- Nagendra Sharma

Those that have regarded as curious the mythical story of the five Paandava brothers having been married to a single Draupadi, may find this kind of story re-lived in parts of mountainous Nepal to this day. For, over a large area of the Nepal Himalayas, fraternal polyandry is as much a reality today as are the Himalaya mountains themselves. In this type of polyandry, the wife comes to live with a group of brothers in their house, as distinguished from the matriarchal polyandry, where she may remain in her own house and the husbands come to visit her by turns. Property under the fraternal polyandry, in its turn, passes from father to son, and not, as in the case of the other type, down the uterine line.

Among the Dolpos (people living in the Dolpa district), for example, brothers are usually said to marry a common wife, no matter what the number of brothers there be. In some rare cases, even two friends have been seen living with a common wife. The Manangbas, another tribe that has got its name from the Manang Bhot (now District) in the mountains of north-west Nepal, are also said to practice a similar polyandry.

The Sherpas, famous the world over as sturdy mountain-climbers, are said to present a slight variation in theme, in the sense that, amongst them, just two brothers, and not more, may marry a common wife; if there are four of them, the third and the fouth take another joint wife.

Interestingly, two such brothers may even go out together in the same wedding procession to the bride's house and take part jointly in the rituals, thereby establishing equal rights over the wife and their own parental property.

The Rai people, mostly inhabiting the eastern Nepal hills, are said to practice what in technical jargon is known as junior levirate and junios sorrorate; it means that a Rai youngman may marry his elder brother's widow, his own deceased wife's younger sister or his wife's brother's daughter. A Satar or a Dhimal youngman of eastern Nepal terai, in his turn, in not averse to marrying his elder brother's widow either.

Turning again to the Sherpas, younger brothers are even said to consider it a matter of their birthright to 'inherit' the elder brother's wife; a young damsel, in her turn, may lay claim to the hand of her deceased elder sister's husband ! And, in the latter case, should the widower have some other girl in mind as his second wife, custom demands that he take a formal permission from his younger sister-in-law.

The Barhagaunley people living in the Thak and Mustang areas adjacent to Manang are also said to practice fraternal polyandry, but, in their case, only the eldest brother needs to go through the formalities of marriage proper, the younger ones joining in later as and when they come of age.

Absolute freedom in the choice of mates is also taken for granted amongst many other Nepali tribes such as the Gurungs and Tamangs. In order to create a suitable environment for the purpose, the Gurungs of mid-western Nepal hills have devised a unique institution in some of their villages - the Rodi Ghar, which, in other words, means a village youngster' club.

Young girls of marriageable age, attending such 'clubs' in the evenings, may even make a night-long affair of their repartees, in song and dance, with the visiting youngmen, generally under the surveillance of elderly club-keepers known as Chivaas, Rodi Ammaas ('Mothers') and the like. The girls, it is said, are expected to provide liquors and other food-delicacies, while the boys help defray the expenses.

People in a Tamang village may also go to the extent of organising an annual festival known as Dyokyaapsi, in autumn; such festivals, when organised, are marked with get-togethers between the village young men and women of marriagevble age. They are said to spend five nights at a stretch together. Any affair the participants may have had on such occasions hardly, if ever, prejudices the prospects of their future marital ties with someone else!

"Unhampered by the trammels of caste", writes one authority, "the Gurkha women of the hill districts enjoy a far greater measure of freedom than is allowed to their sisters in the Indian plains; they are able to take an interest in life and what's going-on around them in a manner more approximating to that of the women of Europe". Is he very far from the truth, dear readers? You be the judge!

[ Courtesy: "This Is Nepal", published by Sajha Prakashan, Kathmandu, 1977.]

http://nepalicreation.blogspot.com/2007/08/how-many-husbands.html


 
Posted on 10-29-07 10:03 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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hi, could you convert the videos to divx and seed them in torrent. i would love to have a copy of them. thank you.
 
Posted on 10-29-07 7:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Polyandry is still practiced in parts of Tibet and around the regions of Dolpo and the border areas where there is a Tibetan speaking majority.  I have Tibetan friends who have 2 Dads (!!) and they do not know which one is their real father...The parents keep it a secret so that the kids' affections would not be biased towards them.

BTW, in medieval Tibet where fertile land was scarce (since most of Tibet is a desert), polyandry was practiced to keep the land from being split further.  A woman would get married to all the brothers in a household (with the youngest male sometimes not even a teen!).  Also, it was believed to bring the family closer leading to co-operation since it was an agrarian society, etc.  But did it really?  No one ever knows, at least not sexually.  I still wonder how these modern Pandavas do it.


 
Posted on 10-29-07 9:20 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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the logical reason:

The ratio of women to men was way too low in those areas. Atleast I know of, the practise of polyandry is NO longer accepted in the region of Mustang and Manang, maybe Dolpo


 
Posted on 10-29-07 10:47 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Bob Marley, lemme correct you.  Polyandry was never ever practiced in Manang to begin with.  This practice only takes place within "Tibetan speaking communities" of Nepal's frontier with Tibet (and people IN Manang do not speak Tibetan).  And the ratio of women was "more" since a male from every household had to be sent to the gompas for life.


 
Posted on 11-01-07 6:33 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Poverty  is also a factor to consider when it comes to polyandry. The more privileged children of polyandrous mothers often don't engage in the practice I think (a) because of the stigma associated with it and (b) because outside of a very well defined set of economic, social and geographic circumstances, it can be quite a daunting task to 'manage' many husbands. To rely on tradition and social pressure to counteract basic instincts like anger, jealousy, possesiveness doesn't usually work well for long IMO

(Hey there Samsara - how's it going?)

 
Posted on 11-01-07 8:30 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Haddock, full points there!  The whole frontier region was and is still (in some parts) an agrarian society where poverty had its shadow on every household.  Strangely, though this practice was never praticed in Manang, the Mustangeys did follow it mainly due to the influx of Tibetans after the Chinese occupation of Tibet.  BTW, I still recall those stories I head from my family and cousins about the hardships in the Manang region.  Its no wonder that the Mananges were the first ethnic community in Nepal to be awarded passports by the govt under Mahendra since the entire landscape there was unfit for farming (especially to cater to the entire population of the 7 villages).  To this day, this gesture is not forgotton which is why many Mananges are still sypathetic towards the Royals as it is because of them that these rustic, destitute, uneducated villagers made it to being among the most savvy business-peeps in Nepal. 

Nothing related to the topic at hand but I just strayed off from the point of povery in the frontier areas unlike the well to do terai, low-lands and the valley peeps whose land was fertile enough to support its population.  BTW, good to see you and read your posts as always.


 
Posted on 11-02-07 3:57 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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No new videos on Nepal but I have seen a recent video on the Layap tribes of Bhutan. They are yak herders from the Bhutanese mountains and have a similar lifestyle to the Polyandry practising tribes of the Himalayan Nepal. There are interviews with the husband and wives and they tell you the positives and the negatives  of the practises  very frankly. You might get the whole video in the web but here is the link for an overview.

 - http://www.bbc.co.uk/tribe/tribes/layap/index.shtml



 
Posted on 11-02-07 10:43 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Here is one vdo to bank on, if not fully.....

im not sure if the orator is Alan Macfarlane himself or somebody else. whatever be the case the excerpts should be very useful. Alan Macfarlane is a well-known anthropologist. He is associated with Dept of Social Anthropology, Cambridge U...hope it comes out useful

 

 


 
Posted on 11-02-07 11:06 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I know that Tibetans practice Polyandry. I have friends too who have multiple fathers.

According to ma Gramps(who wus there preMao) it was a system that was fully accepted in the Tibetan culture.

And my uncle who participated in that GAAAU FARKAAAA programe remember mentioning that in some of the Tharu and Maithili culture(in remote western parts of Nepal) too.

 

 
Posted on 11-02-07 11:27 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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For me polyandry is like treating women like objects or goods. I mean sharing something with all the brothers. Isn't it illegal to practice polygamy?

 
Posted on 11-02-07 11:47 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Polyandry may be illegal here in US (or rather is that illegal in literal term?) but polygamists are still at large here. I don’t know what mormons preach but they practice good ; )


 
Posted on 11-02-07 11:55 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thank You all for Information. i had a presentation yesterday and i think i did very well....once again thank you all

 


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