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MeroJageer
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Posted on 12-29-09 11:16
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Newars are oppressed by Newars themselves. Lower caste groups are always demoralized by so called higher caste. Those self proclaimed higher caste are the ones who humiliate and demoralize the lower caste Newars. As a matter of fact lower caste Newars are more demoralized by the higher caste Newars than any Bahun or Chhetri. Higher castes are mainly: Shrestha, Joshi, Pradhan and all in this category. Lower casts are: Sahi-nyah:, Napit: Nau:, Kapali: Joghi, Karanjit: Bhangra, Ranjitkar : Chipa, pode, chyamkhla, kau, jyapu, chitrakar, tamrakar
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CyberLegend
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Posted on 12-29-09 11:22
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once newars get their own rajya everyhting will fall into place... which type of newar are you merojagir?
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dolphin
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Posted on 12-29-09 11:36
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MeroJageer, i can see that all this propaganda is coming right out off your A$$. GET A LIFE.
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MeroJageer
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Posted on 12-29-09 11:53
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dolphin I am not making up the story. It is the fact existing now. I am in fact totally against such caste feelings. But the current politicians are fueling in this hatred feeling. You have every right to express yours. But I am not using rights but portraying the bitter true facts. We need to get rid off it.
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dolphin
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Posted on 12-29-09 2:36
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merojageer: you are wrong, my friend. just because you see announcement of newa state by the political faction doesn't mean people are divided. people are actually integrated socially. if you compare10 years back and now, socially, there has been lots of progress and all the Nepalese in Nepal from different social background have converged. well, there are always some exception in some part of the country. i see tremendous amount of inter caste marriage in Nepal, mostly in major cities of our country. and it is spreading across the entire country slowly. and there is no going back. i see this as a good sign. eventually, we will all be under one umbrella. and btw, i am kathmandu ko shrestha newar.
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MeroJageer
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Posted on 12-29-09 3:28
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dolphin:
You are deviating from what our main discussion is. I appreciate your presentation on progress the Newars have made over the past 10 years. That's what every one of us wanted. We work hard to accelerate our progress regardless of where we belong to in terms of caste.
The issue here is that the declaration of Newar Republic state. Ethnic demarcation in any under developed countries will not yield any output in anyone's favor. There is very high potential that it may provoke some social ignition down the road. Such ignition may produce some form of catastrophic outcome. This is what I am scared with. Hence, my final word is that let there be progress in everyone's favor away from the ground of social/ethnical so called Newar Republic state.
And by the way, my caste is Khadgi. I don't know how you look at me and how important my cast is for you.
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dolphin
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Posted on 12-29-09 3:42
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merojageer, you are repeating the same again. all these politicians are behind this and they are doing because they are power hungry. and they are declaring states as a fear tactics. remember, nepal ko flag change proposal by maoist. they did that because they were unhappy with other political group. now nobody talks about it. if political group find some kind of common ground, everything will be alright but i do fear for the worst if they don't. but my point, is we, the common people of nepal are not divided anymore on social agneda but integrating and btw, when i said we made progress in last 10 years, i didn't mean just Newars, i meant all nepali people.
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Ganjadi
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Posted on 12-29-09 3:49
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This is the time to fight for their rights otherwise they will fall apart. Need to raise the voice.
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Posted on 12-29-09 8:51
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Merojageer you have posted this in another thread म एक नेवार हुँ तर मलाई नेवार संघीयताको घोषणाले पुग्दैन। मेरो आफ्नै थर छ नेवार जात भित्र। म त्यस जातको संघीयताको लागि संघर्श गर्दै छु। म पाटनको एक तल्लो जात समुदाएको आफ्नै अधिकारको लागि संघर्श गर्दै जाने मान्छे हुँ। मेरो जात नेवार समुदाय भित्र थिचिएको र हेपिएको जात हो। म मेरो संघर्शबाट कहिलै दब्ने छैन। त्यसैले मलाई नेवार संघीयताको होइन मेरो आफ्नै जात समुदाएको संघीयता चाहिन्छ। यस्को लागि म अरु नेवार जातीको केही परबाह राख्दिन।
Sorry, that is the culprit of hindu cast system. Imagine if you were a lower caste in Terai or Pahad and tell whether you would have been treated better by those people. I think in Newar, lower caste has better privilege than other pahade and madhise.
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