Sathi haru ho aaba nepal ma k hola ta, Maobadi le pani haat hatiyar UN lai bujauni re. Saat party le uniharu lai political main stream ma liyera aaye ani US, India, UK, sabai thula thula rastra le Maobadi ko "terrorist bhanne Tag nikale" AAba nepal ma k hola ta sathi haru ho.

Nepal ra Hami nepali ko bhalo Hos

Babu, Nepal aba Bihar jastaaii huncha..nabhaye bihari babu girija laii sodha..

Khai.j bho ramrai bho..at least aba maoist sabai neta haru le Prachanda ko jasthai ghadi lagauna panune bho...desh ta testai ho saathi haru derai ashaa nagrehuncha...pheri yaha yeso bhaneyo bhani mero pachi lagne ko kami chaina..Bidesh basi nepal bikas garnewala haru ko..hehehe

i am very happy for poor people who were tortured by maoist looters at least they won't do that now with Maoist leaders being Ministers they will have another way flow of money..

hahaaha...peace at last...phew ..lets hope it lasts.

अब मावोबादि नेताहरुको काठमान्डुमा तिन् चार् महल,करोड्को ब्याकब्यालेन्स,पजेरो हुन्छ। nothing will happen besides that.

you are absolutely right Aastha. yi maobadi hoina, khaobadi hun. afno purkha purkha samma lai pugne gari khayera ani dhyau garera sarkar bata hatchan. desh ko j sukai hos. who cares? anta ma suffer garne janta matrai hunchan.. Let's pray it does not happen....

I hate this nepali pessimistic mentality. Rather than yapping what maoist will do, why can't we at least hope for some changes in the system? The main problem is with our system and we do need some changes in it. We are in the transition phase and there will be at some changes in law in coming days. A new constitution will be written. So, rather than being pessimist, let's discuss: what were the loop holes in our sytem till now and how can we fill those voids?

a) Did we have powerful judiciary system which promoted corruption (I have a strong belief that judiciary system was engulfed badly in corruption, may be we need a better monitoring system) ?
b) How to biuld a powerful monitoring system against the corruption??

Hi guys,can't we be optimistic? Yes...we can not forget the bitter reality of the past...13000 people lost their lives...lots of infrastructure destroyed...but there is way to punish those crooks by casting votes against them...that's why people love democracy not autocracy...

Something is better than nothing...it is the beginning of the end of all kinds of autocracy....

Please be optimistic and be happy for better nation ahead...

Optimistic finds opportunity in difficulties and Pessimist finds difficulty in opportunity...

Chose what you want to be...

Many politicians have been so upbet they do not hesitate a moment to say Nepal has given a "message to the world". I applaud the agreement and am very happy the Maoists have been brought into the mainstream politics of Nepal, but in my opinion the least thing we Nepal can do is not to tell the world we are better. They could just say it is historic and enjoy the situation, especially at this point.

k hunthyo, tehi "BABAAL" ta hola ni pheri !!

prachanda is the new girija......its now their turn to corrupt the nation......

i am joinging a new group called khaobadi, cuz i dont like maobadi............we are picking up arms as well, and will start killing people......so nepal ko basi ho, get ready for 10 more years of civil war....

Yo

Maobadi are the same people who started "Sama"yukta jana morcha after the demise of King BG!

After the zilch success in the first elections, they said that they wanted to boycott elections because it was against their priciples.

PRINCIPLES!!! Yeah furcking right!!!! they realized that they have failed, and had no future, that's when they went to the rural areas....... and now that they have grown big to a size that they think can win the elections, they have come out.

The best way to treat them is like how we treated "Maley" when they separated with "A maley", give them zero votes. I bet these criminal master minds will go back to the jungle and try to come back again after 20 more years of killings and suffering.

Whatever happened to the principles of Mao Tse Tung......

Nepal is at the pivotal point. The situation could go either way- a better Nepal or the condition may worsen even more. Personally I am not so optimistic for better situation. I think maoists arms management is the main obstacle. I do not think maoist leaders have kept the records of their arms . So how is it possible for UN or the SPA to lock them up for the constitutional assembly?And how is it possible for free and fearless election? And are Maoists willing to adopt balloting instead of bulleting? All these questions are to answered clearly before anyone can predict the future of Nepal. Otherwise, more bloodshed, more violence, looting and all are yet to be seen again by sojha sajha Nepali.
All I am saying is "talla ghare saila (my hypothetical maoist who joined the peoples army) has to turn his arms or not? Is he going to obey the command of his commanders or not? Thus far they have not followed their commanders. That's why extortions and abductions have not stopped in the middle of cease fire.So what is the point of celebration just because they have reached the consensus?
Dear all I have more pessimist view in this matter. However I do pray for better Nepal where I can go from east to west and south to the North without the fear when I am in Nepal.

JAI HOS!

I agree with npl2us. Most of people who are in Maosits have left their work, study or what ever they were doing before joining the Maoists force. It is not so easy for them to go to normal life.

For Prachanda and Babu Ram it is easy to say we have reached an agreement with government and say no more war, because they will have full security and good revenue for excellent life from one on. But what about those who have done everything under command- Killing villages, looting everything that is against human kind. Just using name mentioned above, “talla ghare saila” - will he be accepted by the villages as a improved person from their heart after he is without gun and of course not in group in long run? Personally I don’t think so based on the recent cases when local people are speaking and acting against Maoists. Maoist has power just in the support of gun and they will be treated to the worst as these gun go away fro them. In long run, current lower post Maoists will most probably be initiating some steps against top leaders of Maoists claiming that they have used them. And biggest thing in Nepal is not so easy to fool people like people. One change that this decade civil war has brought is, all people understand certain level of politics.

So personally what I think is that settling these lower post Maoists should be a major agenda. Otherwise it will surely bring another civil war in Nepal.

Nevertheless, despite all these the current change in country has surely brought a change to improve things. Good to turn TV/Radio and hear news of other topics rather than killings of people. In this time, I think the public should be very cautious and warn politicians about the consequences they have to face if they even plan to do something bad thinking they are superpower of the country.

And my proposal is, NEW NEPAL, should have new ideas and new incentives; and people best for this are all Nepalese residing abroad.

Good luck for all of us. [It’s very easy to give up, but tough to take first step no matter how small is the output. So let’s think positive and work to do somewhat better just what it is now]

LOVE NEPAL ALWAYS :)

I agree with npl2us. Most of people who are in Maosits have left their work, study or what ever they were doing before joining the Maoists force. It is not so easy for them to go to normal life.

For Prachanda and Babu Ram it is easy to say we have reached an agreement with government and say no more war, because they will have full security and good revenue for excellent life from one on. But what about those who have done everything under command- Killing villages, looting, everything that is against human kind. Just using name mentioned above, “talla ghare saila” - will he be accepted by the villagers as a improved person from their heart after he is without gun and of course not in group in long run? Personally I don’t think so based on the recent cases when local people are speaking and acting against Maoists. Maoist has power just in the support of gun and they will be treated to the worst as these gun go away from them. In long run, current lower post Maoists will most probably be initiating some steps against top leaders of Maoists claiming that they have used them to get power. And biggest thing in Nepal now as that it is not easy to fool people like before. One change that this decade civil war has brought is, all people understand certain level of politics.

So personally what I think is that settling these lower post Maoists should be a major agenda. Otherwise it will surely bring another civil war in Nepal.

Nevertheless, all these the current change in country has surely brought a change to improve things. Good to turn TV/Radio and hear news of other topics rather than killings of people. In this time, I think the public should be very cautious and warn politicians about the consequences they have to face if they even plan to do something bad thinking they are superpower of the country.

And my proposal is, NEW NEPAL, should have new ideas and new incentives; and people best for this are all Nepalese residing abroad.

Good luck for all of us. [It’s very easy to give up, but tough to take first step no matter how small is the output. So let’s think positive and work to do somewhat better than what it is now]

LOVE NEPAL ALWAYS :)

Guys, I thought i should post a conversation between me and my friend from last night..
I did not edit any text, they are as is, but edited for clarity and ommited some foul languages. thank you for reading. all opinions are welcome

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me: kay chha ta tero bichar nepal ko baare ma

bajracharya: difficult question

me: kina difficult..
just an opinion
doesn't have to be analytical

bajracharya: what happened right now seems a good thing, but when i hear prachanda say nepal will be like europe in next 10 years.. i find it stupid

me: all communist say that whenever they need to win people's heart

bajracharya: i am concerned about the kind of hostility against kathmanduities from others

me: well.. that has been in existence for a long long time mitra
hoina ra
la ta afai bhanta... can nepal survive as sovereign republic as oppose to sovereign monarchy

bajracharya: but now its more evident and there are people who will always try to exploit situations like this

me: even if the monarcy is ceremonial, or just like sweden or norway, i think nepal should stay monarchy..
of course... everyone will exploit..
they have to, to fullfill their plans and programs

bajracharya: i personally think monarchy should be abolished

me: kina

bajracharya: what is a king good for

me: well.. there are many ways we can look king for..
what KG did in 2003, was a mistake..

bajracharya: i do not believe in one inheriting a position like that just being someone's son

me: a big time mistake becuase of his ill advisors.

bajracharya: he is a stupid guy

me: well.. there is a difference between ruling king and a ceremonial king..

bajracharya: when i look at his interviews i see a guy who is high on some kind of hallucinating drug

me: i think.. king is importat because.. he is only symbol of unity in such a diverse country
we can all say we have a king.. but once he goes, we just become divided..
maoists haave already divided the country by the ethnicty rather than, geography

bajracharya: well you can say you are a citizen of a country called nepal
yes that is what i disagree

me: what does the citizenship have to do with monarchy...

bajracharya: that divison thing is totally ridiculos

me: yeah..

bajracharya: you should divide the countries based on other things like : industrial city, city for education, city for entertainment things like that.. seems to make more sense
and any development in the country should move out of kathmandu

me: well.. i love the idea of democracy becuase that is the only way to express our true identity and feelings
but, at the cost of monarchy.. i don't agree. becasue.. once the monarchy is gone, you know that our leaders will certainly exploit our country to india's interest, thus alienating china..
i agree. that all development should move out of kathmandu, but haven't we been trying to do that since 1980

bajracharya: i don't think so

me: gau farka rastryia abhiyan
afno gau afai banau
etc etc

bajracharya: what happened during that
why do i see millions of engineering campus in KTM
all major offices in kathmandu

me: who is going to do that when the country is turmoiled in political delimna

bajracharya: if they have to build something big, its always kathmandu
do what

me: yes, because that is only economically feasible place for all businessmen and political leaders to benefit from
do what ko answer : going back to other settllings other than kathmandu
but, if republic is going to bring peace... i darn well support it..

bajracharya: well you can always impose a policy saying you can no more open a engineering campus in KTM

me: all i want to make sure, as a citizen, is to walk on the streets without having to worry about being killed, or extorted

bajracharya: go open that in hetauda
or naryanghat
or i don't know janakpur

me: too expensive..

bajracharya: well those who open those schools make money like hell
so they have to bear the expense if they want to build it

me: and remember... we have only one international airport..

bajracharya: build another one

me: that's why it is cheapest in kathmandu, when you talk about economic commodities..

bajracharya: or build local airports

me: where is the $$$$$
to build another one

bajracharya: king has it

me: nepal doesn't
nepal doens't have money brother

bajracharya: use birendras property

me: king...
s**t..
king is broke..

bajracharya: i don't buy that

me: that's why he had to step down in what we know as jana andolan 2
if he had $$$, he would have still been the de facto ruler of nepal
birendra's got nothing anyore..

bajracharya: what would he have done with money

me: they are all gone..

bajracharya: well where are they gone

me: got more millitary..
army was directly under the supervison of the king
if he had not stepped down in june...
i mean by june,,
nepal would have been bank rupted
dude.. he spent them all in the three year rule.
export decreased by over 20%..
tourism collapsed completely
how is nepal going to make money..
forget borrwoing..
no one was loaning nepal under the direct rule
he tied to sell some hydro proects
and some govt corporations such as NEC and NTC...

bajracharya: he should have sold some hasish

me: hah hahahahahah

yeah.. but nepal monarchy has taken $$$$ from US not to do that
so, that wasn't going to happen
if KG did that, then he woul dhave been another KB
this is what is going to happen to nepal.. i think

PM bajracharya: happen what

me: the king will be abdicated by the CA.. no doubt..

bajracharya: CA ?
assemly
ok

me: then, there will be an election to the House,.. where.. there will be no majority..
uml and maoists will form a joint govt
nepal will be a communist state and will be isolated from the international community
back to basics and dark ages.. when people will be tired in 10 yrs.. (just like eastern europe of the last decade)..
then, we will ask india to help us restore peace..
india sends in the millitary.. (remember china will not like it).. but india will make a deal
if india agrees to ratify that tibet is chinese land, the chinese wouldn't care the fate of nepal

bajracharya: haa

me: now, it does becuase nepal is the only country in the world that ratifiies that tibet is chinese land

bajracharya: straightforward cha tero prophecy

me: once, they find an accomplice.. ey would just f**k nepal
bhanai matrai ta ho ni
hunu ra nahunu ta malai kay thaha

bajracharya: hoina this sound more reasonable

me: 2003 mai hunu parney ganatantra.. aba 2007 ma hunchha

bajracharya: because i donot see anything positive that might happen

me: tehi bhaneko..
i mean.. imagine the nepalese diversity..

bajracharya: there is too little interest for smart people to stay there

me: the south is full of hindu madhesis, who have been isolated by the western hilly bahuns and chhettris

bajracharya: everyone gets out of there

me: eastern hill billies are just rais and limbus...
they are all about noon ko sojho
so, we have 4 blocks of ethnic regions
the southern madhesis
the western bahuns and chhetri land lords
the eastern lahures
and kathmandu valley newars
do u even see a single reason why they would be united with one value with out the king
i do not see any..

bajracharya: why would they be united because of the kin
g

me: the best way is to abdicate, KG, Prince Paras.. and restore King Hridayendra as the first King of new kingdom of nepal

bajracharya: hahaha

me: because.. 86% of nepalese are hindu and when u add 10% buddhist.. we have 96% of people who follow the concept of king
what a hindu do without a king
up until now, we have a hindu king ..

bajracharya: don't ask me that i denounce religion

me: unless we accept king bhumibol abdulyaj as the our king.. then.. it is okay
but he is not a hindu king.. he is buddhist
i understand.. u denounce.. it

bajracharya: who the f**k is that

me: but not 86% of nepalese
king of thailand

bajracharya: hahahaa
i guessed

me: hoina ra
you see.. i don't follow any specific religion myself..
but, i enjoy and celebrate the traditions i grew up with

bajracharya: the problem is with people being illiterate.. and they always been in a situation where they are willing to accept to be under a control of some superior being - in nepal - its the king

me: yeah. and that is what KG forgot.. i tried to tell him that in so many ways..
but he never listened
he he he..
aba jey hunchha november 26 pachi thaha hunchha
with the interim constitution..
the worst thing is that.. they have isolated all the other parties as well..

bajracharya: so the solution is to establish favorable conditions so that people get literate enough and learn to understand their self-dignity

me: only SPA and Maoists
well.. we are too late..

bajracharya: they need to be made responsible themselves, not suppressed and let some selected few to write their destiny

me: the solution is to go ahead with the new interim constituition.. abdicate king by next year.. held a new election for the houses.. elect a prime minister.. etc..
and continue with the new developlment..

bajracharya: and this is also because of the caste system and how higher caste has exploited the system to always suppress people below them

me: but let the CA decide the fate of the monarchy

bajracharya: and hack religion in the name of culture

me: well.. that happens everywhere
not just caste system but also class system
u think they don't do that in china, or england or usa

bajracharya: but in nepal the situation is worse because religion is very deep rooted faith that makes people hallucinated like the muslim extremists are

me: tara.. one new agency must be constitutionalized
yeah.. but religion is not really the problem in nepal
religion is doing fine..

bajracharya: religion per se is the root of all evil.. but i understand wht you are saying

me: u cannot just change the religion of the people.. unless u are justinian or muhammad

bajracharya: i am talking about everwhere in general in the case of religion

me: right .. right..

bajracharya: i am more that that - i say you don't need religion

me: well.. religion (wiht this i mean dogmatic doctrines)... will continue to exist.. until one cannot solve the problem of creation

bajracharya: you need to be taught values and respect

me: i mean explain creation with complete evidence
u see.. until this is not found, no one can change the concept of GOD and his mighty experiment with life and planets and stars

bajracharya: i personally donot need to believe in some fancy myth to understand some thing that has not been explained.. but i am also not against someone believing that bramha masturbated and the earth was a ball of his solidified semen

me: well.. myth are only stories.. to explain metaphorically
if u look at the origin of the hindu doctrine, it was never meant to be a religion

bajracharya: what i am against is someone who believes that trying to sell that as a book of rules by literally brainwashing people

me: true.. very true.. and that is wrong

bajracharya: yes.. of course i am fine and appreciate all the philosophical underpinnings

me: and yes.. it is corrupted
everyone performs an act to complete their satisfaction and full fill their desires
hinduism got corrupted because of purans and upaniseds..
but, they were so interesting that people loved it and adorned it, instead of deeply understanding what sakharacharya had to say.. or the vedas had to say
vedas are too difficult.. but sakaracharya explained quite easily the concept ...

bajracharya: ok i don;t have good knowlege of these

me: but after his death.. .

bajracharya: who is sankaracharya

me: everything became ulta and pulat
sankarachaya was a very revered guru in south india..

bajracharya: ok wikipedia ma herdai chu

me: who gave the concept of advaidya vedanta

bajracharya: kailay padhis yesto kura haru tailay

me: kahiely kahi
tehi bhaneko..
yo sab.. puran ra.. upanised ley bigaryo kya
aba tyo change garna ta.. arko buddha janminu parchha

bajracharya: well those are things that cannot be solved in a lifetime

me: tehi ved ko kura lai, buddha ley karma yoga ko rup ma manchhey lai dekhaidiyo..
mouka ma chauka.. yo m**i bahun haru lai ka chahiyo..
buddha marney bittikai... india ma.. tai ho ni..

bajracharya: what you need is to make everyone be able to access this knowledge whatever you are telling me

me: vishnu ko avatar ko concept aayo..
it is already there..

bajracharya: people need to be be educated with these

me: how else can we approach them

bajracharya: and thats what the country should focus right now

me: ahiley in india there is a gorup of people who are doing something like this
they called themselves rationalist.. and trying to change people's concept of accepting mysticism, mythology and magic
and how, philosophy and daily actual life is more important than having a blind faith..
such as... saibaba
many people think he is god..

bajracharya: it doesnot have even have to be directly teaching them rationalism, you just first have to make them able to read these stuffs by their own and facilitate an environment where they can question against what is imposed on them

me: in denver.. euta ghar ma sai baba ko photo bata bibhuti khasyo rey

bajracharya: hehe

me: u see.. that is the problem with places like in nepal and india..
finding a common ground to facilitate
not all are educated so, cannot mass communicate with newspaper..
forget radio and televison..

bajracharya: you can start with schools, libraries,
those are the things the government really have to build

me: they would bring out ample time for mahabharat and ramayan...
so, it is called direct call for action at grass root level...
government is not going to spend a penny on this..
they do not benefit anything out of this..
in fact they can exploit this for thier own benefit

bajracharya: so unless some good soul in government starts this we cannot expect good

me: just like prachanda did..
yeah.. now u are talking..
that's why i said.. we need a new constituitonal agency that checks the activitiy of the government and policy makers

bajracharya: they should ban any more engineering colleges
there are too many of them

me: well.. we already have authority for abuse and blah blah
but, an agency that is independently operated, that keeps records of what the leaders have performed and said..

bajracharya: k bhannay aba.. it seems there is no single thing that is right

me: let the life of the agency be 30 years.. for 6 election peiord..
each election, the agency will make all literature avaiale on any leaders that wants to run for the election... in all format for anyone.. publicly..
and let the people decide, if that leader is right for them..

bajracharya: yes but how much of public can read the literature really

me: they don't have to read..
they can listen..

bajracharya: that is the problem.. among all those who can vote, how many of them can actually make a reasonable decision

me: the agency will have authority over what is broadcasted...

bajracharya: even in my case i have mo clue who i should vote for i have to vote now

me: well.. then.. we are now questioning the judgement of the people..
we cannot judge or make analysis of what people decide.. or how their decidison is based on
people is people..
that's it..

bajracharya: that agency thing is something that no one in the government would support

me: that's why they have to be independent

bajracharya: but if that can be established yes it makes sense

me: not just govt but also the members of the house..
the offficers in ministries and department heads... etc
if not through constitution, then may be through people like us..
but, it needs a lot of funding.. which i don't hink any one would be iterested
because. it dones't benefit any international community
the only one benefiting would be nepal

bajracharya: the problem is whenever you see an andolon, you never hear such demands as such agencies

me: and it has to come from nepal

bajracharya: you hear demands like kick the king out or kick girija out

me: because... this agency is a check for them
they do not want hurdle.. they only want a clear track..
i would have done this.. but it needs a lot of funding

bajracharya: and i bet there are smart people who think that there should be such a thing like that agency, so why there is no demand so far

me: dinesh and i have made the plans how we can implement this concept..

bajracharya: who is dinesh

me: mero sathi
tara.. we need a lot of $$$$
which i think is not possible at this stage of our lives..


so, we'll just wiat for the CA election, then the fate of the mnarchy.. then.. the house election
then, we'll go ahead with our plan..
and hopefully in 25-30 yrs.. we have genuine leaders for Nepal

I like the concept:

"Divide country as Industrial city, city for education, city for entertainment things like that.. seems to make more sense and any development in the country should move out of kathmandu". I think India followed this concept. No wonder Hyderbad has come up with an international IT city.

sujanks - How you happen to remember so long conversation to be written later? Just wondering :)

oh.. google talk will save all the conversation... :-)

i have a comment to add to nepalkochhoro's comment..

u are absolutely right about the monitoring system. like we discussed, that agency should be very independent and wihtout the influence of any govt policies or programs. perhaps just like the US credit reporting bureaus, there should be a reporting for all officers and govt appointments in addtion to govt and house's works. it should only be a medium of communication between people and information about their leaders.

it will record all what they have said before the election, and what actually they did. that will just prove if their words are trust worthy in the next election. in 4-5 elections, nepal can have genuine leaders....

LET THEM LOCK THE ARMS UP>.and I'll BURN THEM!! Thats the solution..na rahegi basuri na bajeki baja...Final!!