So much for India and Indian hating.
We could learn a lot from them.

Rajeev’s mission: Raise hope in Nepal’s villages

BY TILAK P. POKHAREL ,Kathmandu Post,12/07/2005

NEW YORK, Dec 6 - When Rajeev Goyal, an Indian-American who spent more than two years in Nepal as a Peace Corps volunteer, asked for donations for the cause of poor Nepalis from the dais of a New York University (NYU) hall, the audience rose up with cash and cheques.
In less than five minutes, he collected more than US$ 3000, then $5000, $10,000… and finally he managed to raise over $28,000 within three hours.

The event, organized under the title "Shiksha ko Asha" (Hope for Education) by the Living Earth Institute and the Rotary Club of Plainsboro (New Jersey), aimed at raising about $40,000 for improving school infrastructure and providing scholarships to poor students in various villages of Dhankuta district, where Rajeev had worked as a Peace Corps volunteer.

Inspired by the poor Nepali people, the doctorate student of law at NYU started raising funds last year when he managed to collect $14,000 under the theme "Paani ko Asha" (Hope for Water).

The amount was spent in Namje village in the same district. Likewise, he had also collected $30,000 from Indian doctors for water projects in the areas where he was working in 2001-03.

While Rajeev played the role of project manager, Fulbright scholar at NYU Sarah Atwood served as the event manager. Others involved in organizing the event included Edwin Jorge, former director of a Peace Corps recruiting office in New York; Dr. Tara Niraula of Columbia University; LG Khambache; Sarahana Shrestha; and Sujan Niraula.

On the occasion, "Paani ko Asha" awards were given to Rashmi Shrestha and Sabina Thapa for their outstanding involvement in fundraising and campaigning against domestic violence respectively.

The highest amount - $5,000 - was donated jointly by Sanjay and Rashmi Shrestha.

When asked what he felt about the termination of Peace Corps activities in Nepal owing to security concerns last year, Rajeev said, "I am deeply saddened by the suspension of the program and I hope that Peace Corps Nepal can start up again… Nepal has given so much to Peace Corps volunteers and vice versa.

Good one Echoes. Checkmate indeed.

Echoes and Thugged out,

How dare you call my ideas stupid? I am not a religious person, and I think I am explaining myself well enough not to be called stupid. You jackasses.
My point was to spread that message that hate = ignorance. I meant you don't have to hate someone if you can ignore them. In that way hatred is just as ignorance. You don't like Hitler, but you don't have to hate him, you can ignore him. That way you sound good and become much more positive.

even more stupid ;-)

what if you can't ignore?

don't tell me you do not hate me as you read this ;-) ehehehe.

get real dude

Hate is not a positive thing neither is violence so if you combine hate and violence together it will still be negative.
you can renounce violence, but you cannot hate violence because violence itself is the manifestation of hate!!!!
in other words you cannot be violent towards anywone without hate, anger or some sort of similar thing

Hate = Ignorance

"what if you can't ignore?

don't tell me you do not hate me as you read this ;-) ehehehe.

get real dude"

if you can't ignore then you fight for it.

Hahahahhahaa. Man, what is this guy sniffing? I hope he wasn't being serious. Thanks for the laughs. So we just ignore Hitler while he gasses millions of jews in concentration camps. Wow, you sound just like Gandhi.
BTW, why are some Nepalis named Hitler? Hitler Shreshta, Hitler Rajbhandari, Hitler Shakya, etc. I swear. Tons of Hitler sympathizers in Nepal, I see.

Nobody can convince me that Gandhi didn't hate the British when he was kicked out of the train in south africa...

Howard Stern said it best. He asked Ed Bradley whether he hates anybody? Ed Bradley says not since he was a child. Stern's basic argument is that(he didn't say this in the 60 minutes interview, but that's how he wanted to say it, he claims) Ed Bradley can't tell him that he doesn't hate Bin Laden and Hitler. There are people out there that everybody hates.
By the way, about Gandhi, you might find this interesting:

"According to Mr. Fischer, Gandhi's view was that the German Jews ought to commit collective suicide, which "would have aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler's violence." After the war he justified himself: the Jews had been killed anyway, and might as well have died significantly. One has the impression that this attitude staggered even so warm an admirer as Mr. Fischer, but Gandhi was merely being honest. If you are not prepared to take life, you must often be prepared for lives to be lost in some other way. When, in 1942, he urged non-violent resistance against a Japanese invasion, he was ready to admit that it might cost several million deaths."


http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/898/

Gandhi goes a bit too far sometimes. Non-violence doesn't always work.

Hello All,

I agree with the last post, Non Violence is a noble ideal but, I doubt waiting around for change to emanate from the deaths of a million odd people is the best strategy...

As far as the hate thing is concerned, I personally think it's basic human nature to hate somthing / someone..but again, like all things in life, it is o.k if practiced in moderation.

As far as the "it is not necessary to hate hitler, you can ignore him" is concerned, I doubt very much that the ignoring Hitler would have helped Europe and particularly the Jews, Gypsies and others who met their deaths at his hands...that's the same as saying it is o.k to ignore the genocide in Rwanda, you don't have to hate it...I bed to differ, you HAVE to hate it..if you have some shred of humanity in you.

Thugged out, as far as the proliferation of Hitler's in Nepal is concerned..I have no idea what some parent's are thinking..but take heart (if you can) from knowing that there are children names UNESCO and the like running around as well!!! (seriously..there is a kid I met, called UNESCO)....oh, and as a side note, Senate Shrestha, the defaulter minister in KG's cabinet, has a brother named Cabinet and I believe Senate's kids or other members of the family are named Parliament and Chunav!!!

T.O.--

hey, interesting article... Thanks! Nothing revealing but a unique point of view.

I guess it could be argued that the pre-1942 life of Gandhi should not count...Even then (no doubt he was one of the greatest leaders ever), rarely is his real personal life (or the real motives behind some of his decisions) scrutinized. I guess it is perceived offensive and disrespectful to even question it...

Anyways, yeah, I watched the Stern interview... well but wasn't surprised about Bradley... Few people on TV say how they really feel.

But sadly, the consequence of the brainwashing is that we have people like some guys here who totally buy into it and condition themselves to think contrary to the reality... so much so that you're now supposed to suppress (or did someone say, ignore?) your distaste of Adolf Hitler...

And lastly, I guess the use of "Hitler" and such in Nepali names can be attributed to the lack of world history knowledge on the part of Nepali parents... I don't think it is their deliberate attempt to "Hail, Hitler!"...

Hate = Ignorance

this doesnot mean that knowing this will stop hatred. it is a statement and it is true that doesnot mean that it is practical. it is only a philosophical ideology which is true in it's essence. but it would be ridiculous to think that knowing this will stop people from hating each other. just because something is not physically relizable doesnot mean it is not true.

Turns out there are tons of Jews who don't care for Gandhi much. I don't know how much truth there is to the insinuation stated above, but one group of people who tend to hate Gandhi tend to be ultra-nationalists. He was killed by an ultra-nationalist anyway.

Nepaali, that was funny. Senate Shrestha? Are there any Supremecourts running around?

Birbhadra-jee,
Namaste.

Well, sounds like the problem is with the semantics. It is ok to feel hatred, just don't "hate" ;-)

Nonsense.

Echoes,

It is not a semantic problem, there is difference between to feel hatred against someone or hate someone. Hate is the the physical posture of hatred. I don't know if I could be able to explain it to you.

Iif you take it simply, you will hate and get agitated by the hatred towards someone, but I think Birbhadra is pointing towards the intellectual approach where you can modify or simplify its effect in your mind and it will be better for you. I am not saying it is a good way or not. But to me it is making sense here.

Thugged out,.. thank you kindly for that invaluable piece of info...all the Hitlers of the world !!! Oh well, i do know of a family of Cabinet , Parliment and Ministry. You can imagine what was on the parents' mind while they named the poor babies who are embarassingly ,yet inevitably adults now. Bichara haru lai.uff...
On the issue of hate however, one can really go on and on haina ra?Hate is malignant and eats away at anyone harboring it. While it is easy to preach"make love not war" it is not all that easy. It is sure is laughable how our countrymen can laugh at all things Indian ,while Bollywood reigns in almost all aspects of our daily lives in our homeland.Be it at weddings,(apparel and songs +dance movements),any kinda parties in fact, back of trucks, theaters,tv,radio, ..etc etc...
It would certainly work in favour of everyone if they believed in good karma... for what goes round certainly comes round. Peace out.

gone with the wind..

It is not a semantic problem, there is difference between to feel hatred against someone or hate someone.

Nepesahila-jee,

Thanks for elaborating but it still doesn't make sense to me. So you're saying, when you feel hatred towards an entity, you aren't necessarily hating it? Is it even technically correct to say that? Even if it is, it's probably beyond my comprehension but the 'intellectual approach' of transformation you and Birbhadra-jee seem to believe in sounds either impossible or supernatural to me. Simple guy you see. :-)


Hate is malignant and eats away at anyone harboring it.

Scarlett-jee,

Probably. But sometimes even that may be perceived (perhaps rightly?) worth the cause. Example: Palestinian suicide bombers.

I continue to believe that hate is fundamental and a very powerful [not always negative] force...It exists in everyone, and acting upon the hatred towards a social evil can even bring about a positive change.

May Mr. Butler be with you. ;-)

Dont go on to hate India, guys and gals, it would not achieve anything.

Love Nepal.

Yeah, exactly. What's the point of naming a kid "parliament"? Just imagine all the namecalling that kid must have faced when he was in school. Parents must be involved in politics to name their child "parliament". So no Supremecourt Aryal iin Nepal anobody knows/is cognizant of?

Fan of gone with the wind, are you scarlett? I haven't read the book, but I have watched the movie. Supposedly, because the slaves were delineated as ignorant and subhuman, some have said that the movie has racist tones in it. Nevertheless, a good movie that sheds light on how things were in the old South. Never read a book.

Basically agree with Echoes' viewpoints on this. People might claim they don't hate anybody, but if you think about it, everybody hates somebody or hates doing something and so on and so forth. Hell, I hate waking up in the morning at 6:00 to prepare to go to work. But I have to do it anyways. I hate diarrhea, gonorrhea, influenza, and all sorts of diseases that have plagues humans for eons. Yeah, I hate em with a passion. They need to stay away from me as far as I am concerned. And I hope nobody here loves HIV. I hate all the repurcussions of a pandemic as well: millions of dead people, people's lives shrouded with fear, etc. But one thing though. Hate is not always negative.

-Hate can be positive: I hate smoking. Now I don't hate people who smoke as long as they stay away from me. Hating cigarette smoking is positive because you're doing yourself a favor by keeping your body healthy.
-Hate can be neutral: Like I said, I hate waking up at 6:00 in the morning. I do it anyway. It would be detrimental if I decided to squeeze in an extra hour of sleep. But I don't.
-Hate can be negative: Hating humans(misanthropes), women(misogynists) and the like. Self-explanatory.

So positive and negative as well as neutral. Of the various variegated human feeling, hate is one of those feelings that can't be painted with a broad brush. Well all human feelings are that way if you think about it. But I haven't thought about it. I'm just guessing.

well i can answer some of the issues arised but only in a philosophical realm which would be very complicated and will need an extensive explanation which means a lot of writing. and still i might not be able to explain/ convery my view point so lets stop it here about Hate = Ignorance topic. shall we?

Thugged out... you continue to be very erm...for the lack of a better word..educating.;)

Echoes..Rhett is just where i like him...under my thumb .Re kya. i loved the book, have as yet to see the movie.

gone with the wind,,,,what a yawn inducingly serious post !Uff,,manly stuff eh?