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gabbar6969
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Posted on 07-12-08 12:18
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This is what seems to be happening in Nepal.. very sad.
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unicornis
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Posted on 07-16-08 11:10
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4. I agee that lahure sons and daughters don't study hard. Trust me I tell them in their face. Remember I am not scared and don't shy away from telling the truth. I even tell my bahun freinds that they are responsible for today's situation and as a well grown and educated men they accept. See education open eyes not put a thick curtail. So, why cannot you accept? EGO. In the last 50 yrs, Nepal was run by politicians who came from just one race and u know which one. But what have they done... And it is natural for the animosity to grow. We gave them plenty of chance but where are we in 21st century. Same place where we started. We don't have to far. Look at India, it was liberated right around when we opened the door to the outside world, their economy is booming but ours - taking nosedive. Now haria bro - u accept it, don't u??
5. Now don't tell me same crap - oh bahuns are smart, laborious blah blah - give me a convincing answer so i can go and watch a movie.
6. You tell me - every politician was a bahun and still is and why not a single one is not corrupted. For some bahuns posted here, they are highy educated etc etc = where is the education thing here? Why not a single bahun politician took Nepal to a different direction?
7. One mistake = we say it happens, Two mistakes = we say maybe missed, Three mistakes = we frown and several mistakes = then there is definitely wrong.
7. To reiterate, I am not against any race but if somebody points a finger, I will not back down.
8. Haria bro, u are right, kalam is the khukuri in this 21st century so I am honing that kalam prreeety weell. But don't forget, gurkhas are still using that khukuris in Afghan and Iraq. They are always on the frontline.
IF U ARE A REAL MAN, U WILL ACCEPT THE ABOVE FACTS OR ARGUE WITH ME WITH LOGICS and IF NOT, u are that type who looks in a different direction.
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unicornis
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Posted on 07-16-08 11:17
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4. I agee that lahure sons and daughters don't study hard. Trust me I tell them in their face. Remember I am not scared and don't shy away from telling the truth. I even tell my bahun freinds that they are responsible for today's situation and as a well grown and educated men they accept. See education open eyes not put a thick curtail. So, why cannot you accept? EGO. In the last 50 yrs, Nepal was run by politicians who came from just one race and u know which one. But what have they done... And it is natural for the animosity to grow. We gave them plenty of chance but where are we in 21st century. Same place where we started. We don't have to far. Look at India, it was liberated right around when we opened the door to the outside world, their economy is booming but ours - taking nosedive. Now haria bro - u accept it, don't u??
5. Now don't tell me same crap - oh bahuns are smart, laborious blah blah - give me a convincing answer so i can go and watch a movie.
6. You tell me - every politician was a bahun and still is and why not a single one is not corrupted. For some bahuns posted here, they are highy educated etc etc = where is the education thing here? Why not a single bahun politician took Nepal to a different direction?
7. One mistake = we say it happens, Two mistakes = we say maybe missed, Three mistakes = we frown and several mistakes = then there is definitely wrong.
7. To reiterate, I am not against any race but if somebody points a finger, I will not back down.
8. Haria bro, u are right, kalam is the khukuri in this 21st century so I am honing that kalam prreeety weell. But don't forget, gurkhas are still using that khukuris in Afghan and Iraq. They are always on the frontline.
IF U ARE A REAL MAN, U WILL ACCEPT THE ABOVE FACTS OR ARGUE WITH ME WITH LOGICS and IF NOT, u are that type who looks in a different direction.
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Nepali_Hero_1
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Posted on 07-16-08 11:27
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unicornis bro had the person who started the thread with the information you are putting now than everyone would have had something constructive to say......but the conversation started with a bad tone so everyone was doing exactly what u said would do defend themselves.....
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unicornis
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Posted on 07-16-08 11:29
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Nepal_Hero bro,
Yes u are right but some peoples comments got into my nerves. Instead of giving worthy opinions etc, they started blasting out.
Yes, u are right again. i am talking about the old schools (old generation) and I know pretty well we, younger generations don't think that way.
I have worked in chitwan closely with braman families. i know their pain.
And my whole point is we all are suffering by the decisions our neta makes but people like Dear sir makes the situation worse.
Like i said, i am open to healthy discussion. yes, janajatis will have to grab the opportunity like bahuns did and fight their way up lie i am doing. this is why i said, things are changing.
and thanks for the opinion.
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unicornis
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Posted on 07-16-08 11:32
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i am too impressed by Pun dai. I wll support him with all my ability and may be in the future i will plant a hydropower in the village.
i am just trying to get some funds for that so currently writing proposals.
we will see what happens.
yes, lets join hands and be like Mahabir dai.
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Hari Dai
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Posted on 07-16-08 11:53
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my only question to you is how do you say just bahun got oppertunity?
i am bahun whatever i got is all due to my labour I have never been benefited from state and except few I have no example where bahun got oppertunity and others were restricted.This all is for dirty politics against nepal,not only against bahun.
If you have a single example where bahuns ,as a cast were benefited,I will say I am wrong otherwise still i believe you r not right!!!!don't tell me fuc**king history of ranas ,this all ,we being back is due to them.
I am happy if you go ahead and say ,ok janajatis and all are equally talented, they do not need reservation, we can compete with bahuns,freely,yup freely.
I will tell u one story,In my VDC there is a majority of Magars we were quite cooperative and there was a social harmony till someone instigated few bad guys and tried to play political games based on Nose's shape.
If someone is wise enough to accept good things he must admit saying anything against Whole bahun society based on his little knowledge and few bad bahuns is not in favor of anyone, neither Bahun, nor janajati ,never for Nepal.
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Posted on 07-17-08 1:48
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opportunity has different meanings.
widen ur thoughts and verizons - u will realize. by opportunity, they grabed the opportunity of education while janjajatis grabbed other opportunities.
opportunity did not come in rashan cards from the state if that's what u mean. opportunity did not come in as free education for any caste but bahuns stick to it. nonetheless this does not prove the superiority thing. education is must to lift one's level of understanding and janajatis realized this much later. sense of equality only comes through education and awareness. once every caste is within that sphere then true harmony will prevail.
and again stop using F words for anything or to anyone and come forward for healthy discussion.
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Posted on 07-17-08 4:35
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bahuns-sharp nosed,generally educated(be it religious texts or modern education)coz they are always incouraged to read and write. they are the main group of people to benefit after rana regime.clever but selfish and oppurtunistic(some say it ambitious and goal-striving ). not just the majority of leaders and govt officials but more than 70% of doctors,proffesors,engineers,literary figures and teachers are bahuns(i dont think there is any nepalese without bering taught by a bahun teacher). famous personalities-Guru goraskshanath ('gorkha' came from his name),devkota,BP,Girjo budha ,dr.kulchandra gautam
Chhetris-others say they’re same with the bahuns being sharp nosed.but ist not true. they r vanguards of khas traditions . were in upper hands from unification of nepal till rana regime.famous for exploiting other poor in villages(kajis and jamindars). martial race (the khas paltan of PN shah became the nepalese army after kathmandu victory and then he added magars(purano gorakh gan) ,newars and other so called dalits castes to form nepalese national army. ). served in british raj for the army but after indian independence they were not needed as there were british to lead the troops. before that they were recruited as foot soldiers as well as officers(a thakuri even became Adc of the Oueen) .majority of chhetris live in mid and far west in miserable conditions. They were the ones misleaded and used by the bahuns the most.while other communities talk abt the exploits of nepalese troops to newars, kirants and magars , most of them don’t know about the bloodiest battle fought in the unification campaign; against the jumlis who were also khas. famous personalities-gautam buddha ,PN shah,Amarsingh thapa,Bhakti thapa,bhimsen thapa, shere deuba ,gyane
Newars-is a community rather than cast. People of nepa or ktm valley. Have a gr8 culture and were in the way of industrial revolution before ktm siege.have tibeto-burmese language with indo-aryan writing skript.in general far more prosperous than other non-ruling castes. Have khalas like muslim quoms and are very strict in matters of matrimony and social orders.before and after unification ,were intrested in trading with tibetans and indians but not intrested in politics although they were in a considerable number in nepal palace(till now). NAC(former RNAC ) and other offices in the valley consist of newars but they don’t think themselves responsible for their downfall. as they were the rulers before the shahs they still envy the khas clan . personalities-ganeshman singh,siddhicharan shrestha,marichman singh,keshav sthapit
Kirats(rai ,limbu, sunuwars)- bhumiputras of eastern pahads. came upto ktm valley from east .they are the only non-indian chettrais mentioned in mahabharat (the archers who fought with pandavas).have a very long history mentioned in mundhum. They have their own religion but still were in some aspects hindus from a very long time being. very helpful and smiling .and of course brave. It was just impossible even for the gorkhali fauj to inter the land of kiratis. still famous warriors in the brigade of gurkhas and gorkha regiment in india(but these regiments are not the authentic gorkhali fauj from where the word gurkha came-its still the nepalese army).some of them even won the prestigious victoria cross .but even after restoration of democracy and being able to afford better than any others the lahure culture is still there and the kids are incouraged to join army as soon as the pass their 8th grade. personalities-guru phalgunanda,VC Agamsingh rai,subash nembang
Gurungs an magars-are not he same though being of tibeto burmese origin.lived long in the western and far western regions. were discriminated by the khas regime before domocracy and after its restoration it was their fault not striving hard to get a share of administration and politics. even after being the first nepalese non-royals to see india , europe and many other parts of world they were not intrested in educating their kids.
The magars are the raithanes of western and mid-western regions .they have a separate cultur with a different language and lifestyle. Follow either hinduism or buddhism.some even say magars were given the chetriya cast and allowes to wear janai because of their bravery .Gorkha ,the seed-state of nepalese unification was a magarat state and was later on named as gorkha by shahs. the first commander in chief (biraj /birat rana/thapa ) of gorkhali fauj was a magar and PN shah in his divyopadesh said ‘ ma magarat ko raja hun’-I am the king of magarat . buts still the lahure culture is not fading . personalities-biraj rana,lakhan thapa,VC kulbir thapa,swami prapannacharya,gore bdr khapangi
Gurungs/tamus are also the present in the wesstern hills from a very long time .have heir own language and cultur.are mostly divided in char jate and 16 jate gurungs.hindus and buddhists. lahure culture hawi chha. Personalities-Dr harka gurung,VC lachhuman gurung,chakre milan
pS- i dont belong to any of the caste groups
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rajendar
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Posted on 07-17-08 7:32
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Bahuns are ofcourse our own, but we have to teach them how to live, so everybody can live happy. They live so selfish, they don't care that somebody his own is getting hurt. He must learn to help others, must stop showing. First they have to learn how to respect others and of course wife, I know how they behave their wives, they behave like servants. it's their personnel but it's not civilized behavior.
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Posted on 07-17-08 9:41
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Rajendar you are teaching to moral community Bahuns. may be you are belong to polygamist society. in yor family five brothers can culturally use one lady, elder brother is 50 yrs old and youngest just 12 yrs. Bhauju and wife is same,,, then you are civilised????/. of course we have man head family, this itself is a harbinger for good mangement and strategic fulfillment. women headed JANJAti are still hundred years back than bahun... so you can learn many social, ethical practices from celebrity an venerate bahun community of world.
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Posted on 07-17-08 9:48
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OK ENOUGH OF THIS RACIST BULLSHIT. IT IS NOT HELPING ANYONE.
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Dear Sir
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Posted on 07-17-08 10:00
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if someone will try to defame bahun and chhetry then definitely, i will also post. But for me, i can stop,,, if others are really serious.
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rajendar
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Posted on 07-17-08 10:13
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hello dear whoever you are, your name shows who u think of yourself, but everybody knows how foolish you guys are. but people tolerate you cos you're nepali. I was just trying to show you mirror, if you guys wants to live foolish then............ We are hundred years back than bahuns that's our bad luck, cos you're still roaming around pashupatinath, begging for some help. and on corruption, lie, stealing oh yeah, you really are 100 yrs ahead.
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Posted on 07-17-08 10:23
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Rejender this conversation is neither helping you nor them.
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rajendar
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Posted on 07-17-08 10:28
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This is not race talk, to teach bahuns in nepal is the first step to make country better, this is duty of all nepalese, so all nepalese ( incl bahuns and chettris ) , lets teach them how to respect other peoples, their talent and intelligency and how to live life.
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Posted on 07-17-08 10:46
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ha ha ha Just leave them alone and let them be. Just mind your own business. I mean who made you a race expert ? he he
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Posted on 07-17-08 10:48
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rajendar you start to vomiting again. then i should also write. listen brahamins are poor in monetary aspects but they are not surrendering their life as servant inUk and feeling foolish proud to become a servants. we are very rich in morality, we save our nation by using our cream mentality. but you are selling your rubbish blood to kuire and still feeling a neplai. we formulate my motherland Nepal, we shaped Nepal and Nepali, that is why you are a Nepali you now. janjati have no role to formulate Nepal or in any way. show me just one example that janjati did for NEPAL and Nepali. every body knows you have a lot of money and asset but you didn't have mentality of 21st century. this is the age of mind power, knowwledge, and wisdom. you are still felling that proud of nepali?. when i was a child, one foolish lahure neighboure was there, at that time the cost of one bigha land was just 15000 rupees but he was receiving 25000 rupees pension per month from UK. he had three junky sons, you are may be one of them . they never went school and now almost they are in beggger stage. but we have only two bigha of land. but see i can compete in the worlds top most prestigious postion in any time. Paras would have so many degrees if mnoey is really matter for academic achievements. theese junky sons of lahure would have approached in prestigious position if money is really matter. so try to upgrade you status qualitatively not quantitatively. you guys are bihari of Nepal who can only talk but we bahuns are cream manpower and asset of Nepal, like south Indian for India so if you are still chasing to money then you will get kitchen cleaning jobs in USA and Lahure jobs in UK. not more than these.
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rajendar
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Posted on 07-17-08 10:51
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But it's matter a of country bro, and I love my country, haha just having some fun bro, take it easy
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rajendar
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Posted on 07-17-08 11:00
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See how bahuns becomes mad when somebody says something about their knowledge and education, mr dear is example. Like he made story and try to ignore own fault, each and every bahuns does the same, looking forward to further examples. mr. and all janajatis are not lahures, but I respect their hard work, every hard working person lives luxury life, not like you guys, earns money with bad deeds and can never sleep. how's my vomit this time.
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Posted on 07-17-08 11:06
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Rajendar so to get intellectual height you shoudl have foundation of motives to capture celebrity status in community and world but money is luxurious goods, it can destroy human being like lahure community. you can purchase bed but not sleep, you can purchase manage and watch cream manpower but not qulaity inherent on them. you are talking about bahuns are opportunist, then why janjatis are not opening their own politcal party, like madhesi friends have already established their own party. goo to election commioosn and register there your party and winm the election. who is obstructing you to resgister party. then become prime minister and ministers. but Nonsence gorebahadur collected money and built a building in KTm in the name of janjati. and the DHARAN , s hub og jsnjsti elected bahun Manmohan adhikai. janjati can not open party because they have no faith themselves. how they will run there party, there is no literate people.all are AUTHA CHHAP. yes they can Go in malasya, singapure, adn brunai and UK to attain Human killing profession Job, LAHURE. they are Poor because they are BHATUWA. bahtuwa can only eat when some body ready to feed him. in Economics it is popuraly known as Vicious Circle of BHATUWA. thes bhatuwas now want reservation for their food and try to solve hand-to-mouth but i cant imagine these BHATUWA will become a poliy makers in any corners of the world. because BHATUWA is BHATUWA.
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