The following Press Release was received in the sajha email. It is being posted for general info.

I am glad that the governmetn did take its time in announcing its intention after the hilarious "cease-fire" statement from the Maoists. Its good to know that the government is not showing signs of falling in the trap.

The security personnel should be kept on the lookout for any signs of miscondict on the part of Maoist and the temporary suspension of the offensive should not be a reason for the security apparatus to stay as a bystander if needed.

On a lighter note, I would request the Maoists not to use "klista sabdas" in their statemtns so that even children can understand it and have a good laugh out of it.

Another sample of bad co-relation between what Maoist leadership
says and what their cadres do.

Maoists explode bomb in Dolpa


KOL Report

KATHMANDU, Oct 22 - Maoists have exploded a bomb at Chun Danda of Liku VDC in Dolpa district Thursday morning. (refer KOL for details)

Nepe ji wrote:


Did I ever said this statement:
"Come on. This guy believes that a lot of intellectuals are supporting the Maoists. He even issued a fatwa right here on Sajha to kill Daman Nath Dhungana. He offered that he will donate his hard earned dollars (was it Yen, then ?) for assassination of Daman Nath Dhungana. His sin ? According to GP, he was liberal to the Maoists".

Nepe ji, you are trying to create a public opinion on me for the things I have not said?
Well, you said that the link in Sajha is alive in Sajha.com, but, you are twisting the
statements what I said. Well, as a learned person, you should have given a link
(reference number i.e. URL link) to prove your statements especially, in the case of Dhungana. In the absence of that link, are not you running another FATWA on
me?

There can be two ways of interpreting your last posting with following statements:
""So they might come back to hunt you again and again. Therefore you better post things responsibly".

First one: as a well wisher of mine, you are giving a nice advice.
Second one: as a frustrted person with the difference in opinion between you and me,
you are trying to threaten me. Well it can be both ways. But, the way you wrote
"this guy" --( ==> GP, right? ) is used in that paragraph gives a tone that you
are not happy with my postings, and the second interpretation seems to apply.

I am writing this posting just make more clear views on your position on that posting
and my perception on it. Well, West Virginian car plates have a phrase
" Wild and Wonderful". You can have various forms of interpretation on this
"Wild and Wonderful" Thread and postings.

Cyberspace is not less Wild and Wonderful. Since we don't see faces, sometime,
they carry completely different meaning on the other side of our screen.

Lets enjoy Wild and Wonderful Cyberspace. You are free to make your own
interpretation. I enjoyed that freedom right here in this postings.

At the end:

MaoDai was one wild and wonderful guy in SCN, I have ever faced in Cyberspace.
He looked a real learned person regarding Maoist issues in Nepal. Sajha.com
missed him from beginning.

No one is comparable to him. I wanted him to comeback may be in different
avatar. He was so hot. He has guts to say what he wanted to say frankly, only a
weakness with him was unable to disclose his identity: except "from semi-industralized
asian country (possibly Israel around 1998) with heavy influence of USA".

I want to see or feel someone develop the charisma of Maodai defending Maoists in
this thread.

GP

Gp, why are you bashing maobadi's so much? you never provide an solution, but just keep on bashing...whats your freckin point?

Maoists disrupt vehicular movement in far-western Nepal

In what seems to be a clear defiance of their supreme leader Prachanda?s declaration of cessation of all armed activities and allow all public activities to take place smoothly during Dashain times, the Maoists have obstructed movements of vehicles in far-western Nepal. (detailed news on Nepalnews.com)


--
What will be clarification against this action from Maoist cadres?

1. Long time ago, when there was ceasefire, and young cadres
made similar mistake, BRB clarified that "We were defending,
it was not offensive action, but a part of defense and we never
said we will stop denfensive action whenever required". So, its
a kind of defensive action. ....

Is it a wrong clarification, I don't think so. Its a political language.

2. Its not by Maoist cadres, in order to "badnam" maoists, the
government (reactionary forces) is doing this. We will investigate
it and punish severly whoever is found guilty. (its regular press
release, I never heard any action against wrong doers if those
wrong doers are from within Maoists? Have you heard ?)

3. Like in the story written by Jogendra (?) entitled "Useful
Idiots", useful idiots will be invited to go to site and report the
truth. Whatever you have seen in news media is completely false.
There was no disruption, and only a few suspected bus/trucks were
checked, reactionary elements have used it as a propaganda against
us, and if you don't believe you are invited to visit those areas.

... ... ...

GP

GP ji,

I think I owe you a reply.

First of all, as someone who has known you on Sajha for some three years now, it feels nice to see you for the first time worrying about 'Public opinion' about yourself. Because the hallmark of your postings on Sajha has been absolutely no fear, shame or reluctance to put your conservative social views and right wing fanatic political views, not to mention your deranged arguments. It has been consistently so since the first day I encountered you till today except for that interesting period of time when we Sajhaites had put you on the throne of HahooGuruhood. During that interesting period you were really gentler, calmer and funny too as if HahooGuru was a relaxing okhati for you. But now you are back to yourself.

As for your fatwa against DN Dhungana, what are you saying GP ji ? Are you saying you did not issue it ? Or you could not have said such things ? Come on GP ji, why Dhungana only, have you left anybody at all, well except the monarch ? There is hardly any person and group, except for the monarch, whom you have not called for extermination at one or the other time. You have made yourself a legend in Sajha doing all that all the time. Almost every posting of yours is violently against non-royalist groups and people with or without specific fatwa. I am surprised that you are asking for specific references. Are you denying the things you were so proudly doing ? If you deny, I will not mind to dig out the Sajha archive to cite you.

I see you often swirling your sword in empty air aiming at some 'Maodai' whom you say you met in your previous life. I would like to comment on that although your deranged and crazy idea about the Maobadis as a whole makes that of not much sense.

First of all, as I suggested in my earlier posting, your idea about the Maoists is crazy. You see Maoists everywhere and in everybody- Human Right activists, Journalists and every non-royalist members of the civil society (let's forget your crazy conclusion that Maobadi ko prabhav ghatdaichha. I'll comment on that a little later !). Now about this reportedly self-proclaimed 'Maodai'.

I don't know about this guy because I don't read SCN (I haven't read any interesting reference from anybody else either, so I am not interested to waste my time digging and reading this 'Maodai' on SCN). However, I can say one thing without any reluctance. I assume GPji is a royalist (ASSUME because he has not directly said it). For that matter, I respect any Maoist more than I respect GP ji. So this 'Maodai' is more respectable to me than GP ji. Even if this is not the case, there is an interesting anecdote where GP ji le malaai Maodai sanga saaino laggaidinubhayeko chha- brother of Maodai bhanera.

That anecdote is interesting and revealing. Interesting because it was my first encounter with GP ji and revealing because it really reveals GPji?s craziness. No, I am not calling GP ji a crazy because he called me a Maoist, but because of the CRAZY REASONS he called me a Maoist.

Let's see those reasons for which GP ji found me a Maoist.

I had hardly posted first 2/3 postings on Sajha, GP ji jumped on me and called me "a brother of 'Maodai' ". Among my postings, one was a small remark on the Monarch of Nepal, for which- it might be more telling to cite Biswo's reply than to give the posting itself- Biswo, then still a monarchist, had replied in the words something like this: 'Nepe, that is the sanest argument against monarchy I ever heard'.

Then the thread where GP ji prophetically called me a Maoist was Ashu's humor thread called 'I want my NTV'. I had criticized Ashu's humor for what I termed 'selective comprehension'. Basically Ashu's satire included all political groups EXCEPT the monarch. (It is interesting to note that I had to repeat the same criticism two years later when Ashu presented his stand up). Anyway, so, basically, anybody who questions the monarchy was a Maoist to GP ji. If GP ji was an anapadh gawar, I would understand. But he is a Ph.D. degree holder. Only a crazy Ph.D. holder should believe that anybody who questions the monarchy is a Maoist. No ?

And there is no end to GP ji's crazy suspicion. However, this time I would be a little bit cautious. Because I am not sure if GP ji is really suspecting me. But sometimes it sounds like that GP ji is suspecting me of not being a brother to but the 'Maodai' himself . Are you GP ji ? Because some of your descriptions and emphasis matche me. Living in Israel ! Disappearing in the US ! I indeed lived in Israel for several years and then moved to the US in 2001. As for living a 'burzuwa' life in Israel, I suppose I did and I have always. If an active apolitical social life is a 'burzuwa' thing, then it was indeed. I was once the elected president of the Student Union of my small campus. I have been called a Godfather by the secretary of the campus for what I used to do for our small Nepali community and so on. Regarding my Maoist like political activity, I have contributed at least one political piece to TND.

Now, GP ji, whether your interesting mind suspects me of being 'Maodai' himself or not, I don't see any point aiming your sword at him here in Sajha.

It is because, dear GP ji, you don't have any moral superiority over any 'Maodai'. First of all you are a royalist and your opposition to the Maoists is related to your support to another evil. Second of all, you are violent person yourself. Third your arguments are merely better than a paagal pralaap. No offence intended. I meant to say really paagal. And by that I meant a person who can not accept objective realities or who makes crashing escapes from them. Let me show you how.

Let?s check your statement in this thread vis a vis that from Paramendra's thread on the situation of the Maoists. Here you said 'Maobadi ko prabhav ghatdai chha'. Then you go to the data that shows the opposite and you have no problem acting as if the data does not slaps on your cheek. On top of that, you jump to the craziest idea that now the King and the Maoist together should rule the country. I am really worried about your thought process.

Nepe sir,

It was great and even pleasing to find that you havespend such a wonderful valuable time to reply to my posting. I am indeed indebted to you. Well, some peoples might say that I am trying to put my frustration over Nepe ji's article ... as some people do when they get disappointed with someone, "la tai thulo bhais re bhayena". Here, I am not flattering in that sense, but, in real positive attitude.

I learned this idea from Kerry Bush election campaign. We have seen how Bush did not have any real facts to put, his main campaign was concentrated on negative ad. banner all against Kerry collecting whatever negative they could bring (fortunately, or unfortunately, Bush is going to win: based on result up to now. Negative publicity
works, so Nepe ji's comments on me will be more effective to bring me as down as possible. I wish you all the best, Nepe jee).

Well, I also remember a documentry movie broadcasted on PBS channel long time ago about Kenedy Family's history and current legendry works by Ted. At one point, Senior Kennedy (father Kennedy) was in extreme frustration when he and his elder son was
suddenly criticised for what he has done long time ago in much twisted matter and father Kennedy was feeling unfair over the news. Then, his advisor told him that
don't worry, it clearlys shows that "who you are in public" and "what is your influence on public". If you were nothing, no one cares to spend their time to read about you. Since
you owe some accountable power that is enough to influence people, you will b always dragged for even a small mistake and in other times dragged , mutiliated and humiliated as much as they can". Learning from the lesson, when several kids of senior Kennedy
died one after another, they had to bring Ted into politics. So, Ted has a problem when he was 19years old and studying at Harvard, thus, the Kenedy family broke the news by calling a press conference announcing what had happened before someone else could intrude in that event. Thats how Ted was said to be purified (i assume purified is not bad word to explain the action). Now, Ted is the most respected congressman in US. So, based on Nepe sir's long posting, I am proud that I am also something in Sajha.com
and my posting really matters, otherwise, why did not Nepe ji allow my postings to be swalled by the black hole at Sajha.com. Well, whatever negative sometime extreme words Nepe sir has used like "paagal pralap", these are to justify his postings and thats
understandable to all readers and me too. When peoples on other side of fence use such harsh words thats going to be a great fun for his peoples and for the peoples who on my side of fence have clearly understood our positions and the use of language is clearly indication of that division and how desperate they are. Well, Nepe sir, one thing I want to make sure to you that I am not pro-maoist in my whole life, never will be.

Next, funny part is that you induced a rule that because I am not a pro-maoist
, I must be pro-royalist. I can make sure to you that I am neither a pro-royalist too. I am for your information, a supporter of old gold Kangress, but, not Girija and his associates. I had ever carried the flag of NC and their leader's photograph and pasted on the walls and I was great "prachark" Bahudal during referendum. I am not going deviate from that old gold party's line Well, I might not like Girija and his corrupt associates like Govinda Raj Joshi. The reason is that when GRJ was victimized just because he was a supporter of Bahudal, I was standing on his side and spent 2 months of my importnat part of my life to release him from Jail. But, I am surely disappointed when I see the same GRJ swellen up, I am surely desperately expecting a fresh peoples arrive in front line of NC. I have guts to say it clearly and truely.

But, Who is Nepe outside Sajha.com is not of my interest. I do not need to learn more than what he is in Sajha.com Well, in times we have seen Nepe sir puts his "extreme words" on anyone whom he don't agree. Example: Sajhaities most probably remember the harsh words used by Nepe sir to another fellow Sajhaity particularly towards A. and Nepe sir stopped debating with A. (Guess who A. means). I don't want to bring him in between Nepe sir and me.


I remember a story told by a friend of mine who used to be very angry for small
small things and jump over others personally, had changed himself a lot and I asked
him whats a reason? Then, he told a story of debate between two great rishis and
when then debate cotinued for week or more, one of the risihies wife called her
husband back and declare him losing the debate, and peoples were surprised over
her prediction. Reason she gave to peoples was that her husband has lost
facts and arguments and thats why he started showing high temper / excited.
My friend told me that story. Now, I can see here in Sajha.com and elsewhere
how peoples show their temper when their arguiments are drained out from their
mind.

If you use third class ghatiya words onward, I will not dare to discusse with you.
Well, you will be just another name in my black list, thats it. Sajha.com has a lot of intelligent people, I am not afraid of missing you. I wish I will not miss you in that way. Period.

Best Regards.
GP

This paragraph above -- by Nepe -- caught my eye:


"Ashu's humor thread called 'I want my NTV'. I had criticized Ashu's humor for what I termed 'selective comprehension'. Basically Ashu's satire included all political groups EXCEPT the monarch. (It is interesting to note that I had to repeat the same criticism two years later when Ashu presented his stand up)."

*****

On Sajha, over the years, I have taken a lot of unwarranted and false criticisms
for things I have NOT done, for things I have NOT said and for things that have NOT happened to me at all.

But I must admit that being criticized for what's NOT -- yes, that's right, for what's NOT --in my humor pieces really takes the cake. I mean, I can take "you so-called humor pieces are not funny" criticisms. I can live with "Your humor pieces are khattam" criticisms.

But I am baffled to have been criticized for what I did NOT write!! How is one supposed to respond to this? Then again, Nepe is a poet, and poets have hearts that a non-poet like myself can never figure out, and I have leant to leave it at that.

**********

Nepe also wrote:

"(It is interesting to note that I had to repeat the same criticism [that Ashu did not touch the monarch] two years later when Ashu presented his [half-hour] stand-up [comedy act on 1 April 2004 in Kathmandu ]."


I wonder what Nepe's been drinking, for I find this charge hard to understand. Nepe was not in the audience in Kathmandu when I wrote and performed that stand-up act. But Kantipur reporters were in the audience. That's why, if you read the last page of Kantipur (dated the 2nd of April 2004), it's clearly reported that as a stand-up comedian, I took on the Maoists, the political parties AND (surprise, suprise!) the King in my stand-up act. I'd be happy to show the newspaper cutting to Nepe when I am next in DC.

Then again, one lives and learns -- and smiles.

oohi
ashu

Nepe ji writes: "Anyway, so, basically, anybody who questions the monarchy was a Maoist to GP ji".

another inconsistency in his writing: "First of all you are a royalist and your opposition to the Maoists is related to your support to another evil".

Nepe ji calls me "Royalist" just because I am not supporting Maoists. He uses the same
yard stick that he accuses of me using it. Is not it a funny comment, Nepe sir?

At one point he wrote:"I assume GPji is a royalist (ASSUME because he has not directly said it)".

Here, the tones in these paragraphs are different. In one paragraph he assumes, you can assume, and his assumptions are based on me not supporting Maoists. Thats OK to assume. "Bhako bheeeeeeeeeeee ke hunthyo ke". "Bheeeeeeeeeee is not problem to me". But, the way he stamps me as royalist is troubling to me the way he accuses of me using the same yard stick to measure him. Anyway, Nepe ji you are really violent and you accuse and give names and adjectives to peoples who are reluctant to support Maoists, but oppose Maoist atrocities.. You use various adjectives so fast and its like a wild fire.

My suggestion to you to give references whenever you want to prove something someone said. If you can cite the reference, better not write it. I have seen you
twisting the things what I have said in completely different manner that suits your
need, example: in the case of Daman Nath Dhungana.

GP

Correction: "If you can cite the reference, better not write it." should be read as
"If you can NOT cite the reference, better not write/quote it."

GP

GP ji,

After three years of continuous calling for extermination of everybody else but the king, you now say you are not a royalist either. Aajaka miti samma, I have not seen anything from you that indicates you do not support the king. I will be glad to be proved otherwise in future.

So you support the gold old NC. But the good old NC was royalist. They were willing to give the King much more power than what the samyukta Janaandolan agreed to give. Even after the aandolan took away the "samprabhuta" and brought it solely to 'janata', at least in paper, Saint KP Bhattarai, as it is recently revealed, was actually insisting that samprabhuta should be co-owned by the King ! KP Bhattarai's recent udgaar "Maharajdhiraj baat [asim nigaaha purbak] pradhan-mantri ko pad baks bhayo bhane ma chalaauna sakchhu" goes well with good old Congressi's submission [ BPK, KPB and GPK. Ganeshman ji seems the only exception] to the King.

GPK's loyalty to the monarchy appears to have loosened somewhat now. However, you are not a supporter of him to make a connection.

So, GP ji, where exactly are you not a pro-monarchy in all this ?


===========================

On 19 Dec. 2001 at 11:20 am, I posted a reply to Ashu's thread 'I want my NTV'. My reply contained the following remark-

...I hope you got my point. This literary piece suffers from a fatal flaw of, I will call, a selective comprehension (cf. Selective amnesia). I do not need to explain that such work, instead of becoming a pure art, becomes a tool that serves the interest of a certain individual, class or school. ....

Ashu replied.

http://www.sajha.com/archives/openthread.cfm?threadid=2766&dsn=sajhaarchive

Now it's my turn to ask, Ashu, what were you smoking when you wrote,

"But I am baffled to have been criticized for what I did NOT write!! How is one supposed to respond to this? Then again, Nepe is a poet, and poets have hearts that a non-poet like myself can never figure out, and I have leant to leave it at that."

Now, about the stand-up. Once again, Ashu is forgetting or pretending to have forgotten, but I had given him compliment for his performance in the thread where this was discussed (the thread seems to be missing from Sajha. anybody ?) after I listened to the audio Ashu had kindly provided link to. Ashu had informed that the audio is incomplete. So I had inquired about that in the same posting and had asked whether he made jokes about the palace in the remainder. I vividly remember I had suggested the jokes about the luxury cars the palace had recently gotten- a hot story going on those days.

Ashu did not reply to my query about the omission of the palace.

Now he says he took on the king.

I have two things to say. First, very good. Second, let's hear what exactly was your joke/satire ? Let's check their strength, boldness and focus and see if the grand defense you are now making is worth.

Nepe sir,

Thanks for your kind and very real descent reply. I liked that, really and
no flattering.

I got a chance to see my early posting on my observation on you. I feel
so great that I am still consistent on my observation and standing. Even in
that early posting, I have clearly identified that I am not royalist. Because
I know my position very well, I am consistent with myself for last 25 years
or more since I started carrying NC flag in my early or middle teen age life.
I feel great indeed. (I love mapai, and I am capitalist country, Mapai is
part of life here).

well, it was so wonderful to read that first point to characterize you
("you seems to be brother of Maodai": I agree by birth you are not
genetically brother of Maodai, and I am sure you will not mind to
inherit Brotherhood with Maodai in political belief: I am drawing this
line based on your continuous support on Maoists. There was no
better guard to Maoist issues in this Sajha.com than you are. Morning
shows the day (mostly correct, except few exceptions), my early
observations are still correct. The difference lies in the real identity
of Nepe sir at that time and now, and it does not matter who you
are in real world to me, and you are Nepe sir in Sajha.com thats
enough for me: because I don't think I will meeting Sajha.com characters
in real world, except a very few: negligible. Therefore, these
characters are important to me here in Sajha.com only and no where else.
I might have tried to find in the past because I used to think that these
characters are useful in real world outside cyberworld. Now, I feel them
good only in Sajha.com.

Nepe sir, I like your Poems. I will love to read these again and again.
I am not royalist, for your sake. But, I have not seen a reason to
through King solely based on "What next to republic?" I do not believe
yet based on the nepali political leadership's current status that this
is need of time. As Kanak wrote that Nepali Political parties who sought
for republic nepal, are just throwing stone to threaten King so that they
can get political power and settle with King. Scenario looks like that
even Maoists if offered PM and Singha Durbar will accept King and settle
the matter. This looks to be solution to current political chaos in Nepal.
I am sure it will be the safe landing to Maoists where a few thousand
Maoist cadres will get share in RNA, and Nepe sir, you will be disappointed
with Maoist leadership for the settle. Well, there will be a fraction of Maoists
who will not like the settlement : safe landing and continue to fight in a small
corner of jungles. I still don't see Maoists over-running Kathmandu like
Khamer / PolPot supporters overraning Pnompenh sahar as illustrated in
the movie Killing Field.

...........
I hope to see your postings where you will be continuously stamping me
"Royalist" ......... I can do nothing more than smiling in front my computer.

Very Personal Regards.
GP

Correction: "I am not royalist, for your sake". shoudl be read as "I am not royalist, for your information". Symantically both look almost same to me, as I am not a learned person in english theasarus. So, you might take it otherway, which is not correct.
I put in that simple words.

GP

Nepe,

That ["I want my NTV"] was a piece of humor, written around 1996 at the expense of the state-run Nepal Television, and later recycled on Sajha for amusement.

The reason I did not respond to your criticisms earlier was that your complaint was
so pathetically nit-picking over issues that were not even there that I thougt it was
best to keep quiet.

I mean, as a reader, you could read, re-read and interpret that piece in any way you wish to discern whatever "pro-monarch" symbolisms you could find (when there were NONE in that piece, as far as I -- the writer -- was concerned!), and then use those perceived symbolisms to pounce on/attack me for my alleged "pro-monarch" bias . . . but, frankly, look, I didn't care about this then and don't care about it now.

****
Re: the stand-up comedy . . . I told you to read Kantipur dated the 2nd of April, 2004 (last page) and even offered to show you the newspaper cutting when I am next in DC.

But no.

In your grandstanding way to gather evidence to hang a rope around my neck --
a strategy, I might add, reminiscent of certain other prominent hard-charging Sajha posters from days of yore who ultimately had their evidence blown up in their face on
at least two memorable occasions, thereby denting their credibiity-- you are not satisfied with my straightforward suggestion to read Kantipur.

You demand proof, evidence, hard pra.maan so that you can, in your own words, "hear what exactly was [my] joke/satire . .[to] check their strength, boldness and focus and see if the grand defense [I am] now making is worth."

My answer: As long as the 100-odd members of the audience, each of whom paid Rs. 100 to attend the stand-up show got my variously targeted jokes that's all I cared about then and that's all I care about now. I thank you for your keen interest, but I need neither your stamp of approval nor your judgment to be either pro-monarch or anti-monarch or something else altogether.

oohi
ashu

GP ji,

If you want to be identified as a Congressi, great. But my point was that I do not see any congressi-ness in your postings that I have read during last three years. You are cursing and swearing on everybody but are silent about Gyane and the institution he represents. That is the only consistency about you I have seen in Sajha during last three good years.

I know you were a Congressi once upon a time. But, are you saying you are still a Congressi ? Which group, idea and inclination at present are you close to, then ? Tara Nath Ranabhat, perhaps ? Deuba ? KP Bhattarai ? GPK definetly not. Nara Hari Acharya, I doubt. Daman Nath Dhungana, no need to pronounce his name.

Let's forget about persons and the neeti/prabritti they represent. Even on a pure ideological basis, you do not sound like a Congressi at all. I have never heard or met a strange Congressi like you who think Freedom and Democracy (my personal ideals and what I believe I have been promoting in Sajha all the time) are Maoist things.

Look how silly assertion you are making about me,

I am drawing this line based on your continuous support on Maoists. There was no better guard to Maoist issues in this Sajha.com than you are.

Either you are a khusket unable to make distinctions between different things or have a jaundiced eyes with your attachment to the monarchy to see me supporting the Maoists or being one.

There is nobody in Sajha more anti-Maoist than me if being anti-Maoist takes more than swearing and, I would call, masterbating (like Prem Dai and often GP ji yourself do).

I am anti-Maoist for their date-expired ideology, the communism. I am anti-Maoist for their violence against the innocent.

Not only that, I am anti-Maoist for the very reason you probably put me (a republican) and the Maoists (also republicans) in the same basket for.

I know you have not been able to comprehend this for whatever weakness you have. But I have been making very clear distinction between the kind of commitment (actually the lack of) the Maoists have for the democratic republicanism and the kind I have. For me, the democratic republicanism is the ultimate, final, last, that's it, political system. Being myself a former Maoist, in a sense, and watching them closely over the years, I know, and I believe every student of elementary politics know that the Maoists are not ideologically committed to the democratic republicanism. Their goal is so called people's republicanism- a communist republic state, the standard western media tag for the news related to the maoists, for those not well versed in communist jargons.

These are so elementary things, GP ji. And I am surprised that a Doctor of Philosophy does not get it. Okay, let's leave the Ph.D. Let's take on your Congressi credentials. So what kind of a good old Congressi are you who does not have this much elementary knowledge of politics ?


=================

Ashu wrote:

That ["I want my NTV"] was a piece of humor, written around 1996 at the expense of the state-run Nepal Television, and later recycled on Sajha for amusement.

The reason I did not respond to your criticisms earlier was that your complaint was so pathetically nit-picking over issues that were not even there that I thougt it was best to keep quiet.

I have already given the link to the conversation between you and me on 'I want my NTV'. So I will leave it to the readers to decide for themselves how PATHETIC my criticism and inquiry were.

Pathetically nit-picking they might be, however you did respond to those pathetic nit-pickings with a great enthusiasm then. You had defended yourself by presenting two pieces of evidences that would prove you have guts to take on the monarchy ! One was your criticism of Naya Sixa Neeti of King Birendra and the next one was your signature on the petition against then adirajkumar Paras Shah. And I believe I had admired you for that not knowing too much about you then.

Over the years following that conversation, I would have dozens of debates with you and learn your position regarding the monarchy in Nepal and so on.

As I have made an astrological prediction about you that someday you are going to be a hardcore republican like myself, I take some comfort in your phrase "my alleged pro-monarch bias" for a hint of refusal to have that dreadful thing. A small thing in right direction, I would say.

Be kind also to at least give some hint on how you took on the monarchy in your stand-up. Don't leave this hopeful fella in limbo.

Nepe sir: you are most of time look a nice guy, a great poet. Your multiple personality can be seen when you start using the language on someone at the middle of the posting:

e.g.
"Either you are a khusket unable to make distinctions between different things or have a jaundiced eyes with your attachment to the monarchy to see me supporting the Maoists or being one."

You end up being too personal. I laughed so much when I read it. It clearly shows
how violent you are: its probably your remains --scar-- of "old Maoist boy" as you said.

Buddy, keep on moving. I am happy to hear that you are no more a Maoist. Is it because of the attraction of "capitalist 5 digit dollar salary" in USA? Just curious.

GP

Nepe jee writes: "I am anti-Maoist for their date-expired ideology, the communism. I am anti-Maoist for their violence against the innocent.

Not only that, I am anti-Maoist for the very reason you probably put me (a republican) and the Maoists (also republicans) in the same basket for. "

Sidha sadha janata might take it granted by reading these two lines that
Nepe jee is not-a-Maoist. You read these two paragraphs how c.ly he is trying
to confuse sidha sadha janata, e.g. me. In those two sentences,
he claims ( read it carefully) that he is best seasoned Maoist supporter and
supporting only extremely fine lines of Maoist agenda.

But, in the other hand, how violently Nepe jee stamps on others as "royalist",
just because they don't support Maoists. Anyway, so, basically,
anybody who questions the Maoists is a Royalist to Nepe jee, haina ta?

In long run of time, I got a chance to discuss with you Nepe sir. I am
glad that you are there where you were 3 years ago, I mean geographically
and Politically you are on the otherside of coin: because now "you are
former Maoist". Hahahaha... Me Politically on the same side of coin, as I
was 30 years ago or 3 years ago. Though, geographically, I moved
half a globe on the otherside..... Heheheheh.....
Joking or telling the reality. Geographically, we live in the same side of globe.

I wish to read more and more funny adjectives and extreme words like Paagal Pralap, "khusket ","jaundiced eyes". Those who like you, will pat on your back,
kya bhandinu bho ni Nepe ji tyo GP lai, good job. To get those pats more and more
you will continue to use new words in more exciting way . I will also enjoy your words
because I know you won't be using those words if I owe nothing. It shows the
Power in my postings. I am not going to negotiate with you to avoid you use
extreme words on me. I will let you use them as much as you want. So that, one
day your vocabulory of such words will end and automatically cease to appear new
words. I have come to know in last one year that negativity is a way to attract public
support and Bush was successful in being a great example. Nepe ji will be an
example in Sajha.com, so far he has not achieved a real number of prominent
writers in Sajha.com, well, some of those whom I put in my Black list frequently
come and go in hunger of my response to their posting. I realized the importance
of creating your own black list. Nepe ji, despite of using such extreme words still
will not find position in my blacklist, and he is in my white list. I like his poems and
his use of extreme words.

Anyway, Nepe ji, I will continue to read your poem and will never dare to
oppose them. As long as politics is neither your profession, nor mine, and
politics is part of our life, so we can not get rid of it. We will continue to be
influenced by politics and therefore, no one can tell me that "hey, thats not
your biz., you are not eligible to talk on this topic". If you don't like either
you can fire on me, or just keep quiet..... or pat on. What is your next word
or adjective on me? Looking forward to reading new words. Maodaii also
used to be quick in naming others, he used names: Harvard and Tokyo univ.
egg heads (unfortunately, I was not from Tokyo: he was referring to me),
Pawan, .... apologists.... royalist..... Well, he was redhot and could not
maintain it and gone. Law of nature.

GP

Nepe,

Look, I may be pro-monarch. I may be anti-monarch. Or, more appropriately, I may decide my position on a case-by-case basis, depending on how much of verifiably true information I receive. These are all well within my prerogatives.

What I object to your criticisms is this vague insinuation that one's monarchy-related credentials need to be first EXAMINED and CLEARED by you -- the one-man committee on that side of Tyson's Corner that decides, quite publicly, who falls where on some "on monarchy" spectrum . . and ONLY THEN one can go forth in the world with a Nepe-tested monarchy-related badge.

Anything else, you seem to say, requires cold, hard proof. I mean, what are you -- ISO 9000-granting instituition on one's thoughts on monarchy?

Even as a scientist who is presumably exposed to a plurality of conflicting ideas, you don't seem to grasp that I can perfectly understand your anti-monarchy position WITHOUT having to accept it or agree with it for myself, and that does NOT necessarily make me your polar opposite or for that matter your best friend on this issue . . and that's not necessarily a bad thing. Why can't you live with this fact?


oohi
ashu

Ke ko kach kach here? This thread is to bash Maoist of Nepal. To bash those shit eating Baburame, Prachande and mahare, and brainless other Maoists leaders. Oh those insane moists and Maoist's supporters.

UML proposes unilateral pause in security action during festivals

UNL is yet another f**** party who sits in teh govt. and trying to help Maoists. Talking two things at the same time.

Ashu writes:"...one's monarchy-related credentials need to be first EXAMINED and CLEARED by you (i.e. Nepe) -- the one-man committee".

This is the perfect observation on Nepe's continuous attack on peoples and
his conclusions on peoples regarding who is "royalist" or "anti-royal".

Nepe ji will come with rheoteric twists and creation of statements which peoples
have never said. He further uses adjectives on peoples whom he don't like
and he thinks he has right to abuse peoples with all sorts of adjectives that pops
up in his mind. If readers don't believe they can see Nepe ji's postings in this
thread, they don't have to go very far. But, Nepe jee is a good poet.

GP