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 The Maoist Strategy Uncovered

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Posted on 04-12-06 6:59 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Untill few months back, there used to be a stalemate between the King and the Maoists.

The Maoists have taken over many places in Nepal, but their revolution is not successful until they take over the capital.

They could not possibly take over the capital because of the Army. The Army is under the kings control and it is impossible for the Maoists to fight the Kings Army in the capital.

SCENE IN THE CAPITAL:
The democratic parties have a lot of supporters and say in the capital BUT they are not strong enough to overthrow the King.

THE MAOIST STRATEGY:
Using the Democratic Parties as a pawn in thier greater scheme of things, the Maoist incite the Democratic Parties to call strikes and large processions, whereby they infiltrate the crowds and force the Kings govt. to attack the public.

THE GENERAL CONSENSUS:
The general public believes that the King is corrupt and not a good ruler. So they only need some inciting before they go out in the streets. Once the general consensus is now to get rid of the King who has unjustly killed off peaceful demonstrators and innocent people.

THE AFTERMATH:
The wrath of the crowd in Kathmandu Valley is enough to overthrow the king. The king gets thrown out/killed. The Democratic Parties celebrate for a short time before they start feeling the pressure of the Maoists from all sides of the capital.

Without the Army being controlled by one point of reference, noone can stop the Maoists from taking control of the capital.

THE STRATEGY IS WORKING:
What we need to decide right now is do we want the Maoist to rule us or the King? The democratic party are just wishful thinkers who wish for a utopia but will fail miserably as soon as their fight is over.

WE THE COMMONERS:
We need to see beyond the current situation in Nepal and decide for ourself if Maoists Rule is what we want. If that is the case, we need to go ahead and support the Democratic Party in the street to topple the King. As soon as the King is toppled, these Democratic Parties will be swatted off like flies by the Maoist guns.

Although democracy is something to die for, the consequent Maoist rule would be such an unfortunate irony for the deaths of thousands who are seeking democracy.

PLEASE SPREAD THIS MESSAGE TO AS MANY AS YOU CAN BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

 
Posted on 04-13-06 8:48 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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EXPLAINING MAOIST STRATEGY: IT'S ALL IN THE SCRIPT
By Dr. Thomas A. Marks

Even as I write, events in Nepal unfold as if a Broadway play – nary a miscue from the script passed out months ago in the Nepalese media.

Having declared a "ceasefire inside the Kathmandu Valley," thus to gain the media "spin" that would necessarily come from "peaceful protestors" being "attacked," the Maoists proceeded elsewhere in the country to attack positions. The Butwal attack is only the most recent example.

Open use of violence "outside" the urban centers has been accompanied by orchestrated rioting "inside." That the foreign media (with the help of the anti-government sectors in the Nepali media) persist in calling such "peaceful protest" only demonstrates how thoroughly detached they are from the reality of the people's war approach.

From the Maoist Playbook

To outline the Maoist strategy for those who were not present at the auditions for parts:

● Overload the security forces "inside" while attacking with main forces "outside." Claim to be only supporting "peaceful" forces for change.

● Use government troop deployments to advantage. If the security forces must move more men inside, flow into the vacuums left behind. If they move outside, send urban partisans inside.

● Exploit every death and claim that any setback (e.g. failure to overthrow the government) proves that only the violent way is left to install "absolute democracy."

● Break the RNA at all costs. RNA is the one real obstacle remaining in the quest for power. So caught up is the SPA in its short-term effort to remain relevant that it is oblivious to long-term peril. SPA can be counted upon to mindlessly perform on cue.

● Move now to exploit the opening provided by Indian perfidy. New Delhi senses an opportunity to at long last create of Nepal a dependency that will do as it is told.

From the Maoist perspective, they have adopted a "win/win" course of action: no matter what actually happens, they will benefit.

By declaring a "ceasefire outside Kathmandu Valley," they seal off the battle area, declaring that it will be a fight between rival bodies of manpower. They feel that the SPA manpower on the streets can overwhelm whatever the police and APF (the backup) can put on the playing field.

When the authorities make mistakes, which ultimately they must if SPAM plans go off as scripted, the government is again "human rights abusers" -- and the howls can already be heard from the usual suspects. Some elements of the Nepali media appear to be working deliberately to fan the anti-government flames.

Further, the violence allows the Maoists to claim they at least gave "peace" a chance.

The dream scenario, from the SPAM perspective, is to replay 1990, with masses rushing across the open boulevard leading to the main palace gate, the troops forced to open fire, bodies filmed by international media and beamed worldwide, India declaring it can no longer stand by "as democracy is crushed."

Role of India

India's role remains to be untangled, but no one who was in Sri Lanka in July 1987 – as I was – can overlook the startling similarities. The Indian invasion, conveniently disguised as the IPKF (Indian Peace Keeping Force), was but the culmination of half a decade of support for Tamil insurgents/terrorists that New Delhi thought it could "manage."

Then, as now, the shape of the international arena played a significant role. India, many have forgotten, had sided with the Evil Empire. There were some 6-7,000 Soviet advisors in the country. It was the first country outside the Warsaw Pact to receive the MIG-29 fighter, the first (and only) ever to be rented a nuclear submarine.

Beyond all else, in a relationship only now emerging from files of the KGB spirited out of the country prior to the resumption of the authoritarianism, the government of Indira Gandhi allowed itself to be fed Soviet disinformation that convinced it Sri Lanka was a threat.

Alleged "special intelligence" provided by Moscow purported to prove Colombo was on the verge of granting Washington basing and spying facilities, India became involved with the Tamil insurgents, eventually training, arming, and basing them. When an initial massing of forces to invade in early 1984 was warned off by the Reagan administration, Delhi simply waited for a more propitious moment. This came in July 1987, as the Sri Lankans moved to crush the trapped insurgents in Jaffna.

What that moment shares with the present is the astonishingly bad "intelligence" that drove Indian policymaking, as well as the claim that "foreign hands" support the monarch. Putting the word in quotation marks only highlights what Indian field commanders realized within days of landing in Jaffna – there was little they had been given in their briefing packets that was accurate.

That India's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) had produced "analysis" every bit as flawed as any in the annals of intelligence debacles has since been recognized by no less than India's imperious Proconsul at the time, J.N. Dixit (now deceased) – though he continued to claim, even in his last writings, that India's information on America's intentions was completely reliable.

That India had completely botched its assessments of Sri Lankan ground realities would not surprise anyone who has followed what has emerged as the dominant government position in the present Nepali crisis. Indeed, Indian participants in panels held in Washington, DC, such as S.D. Muni, have distinguished themselves principally in what can only be characterized as willful ignorance of SPAM pronouncements and motives.

To cite but the most egregious example, the Indians continue to claim SPAM is willing to negotiate for itself a role in a parliamentary framework headed by a constitutional monarchy, even as the Maoists give press conferences claiming they will try the monarch in a people's court.

There do seem to be analysts who have correctly identified the astonishingly strategic myopia involved in destabilizing Nepal further even as India itself grapples with its own growing Maoist challenge. In his recent "India, Maoism and Nepal," former Finance Minister Madhukar S.J.B. Rana hit the nail squarely on the head when he wrote, "India is playing a dangerous game of pure real politic where it seeks to intervene in Nepal militarily by using the Maoist [as published] as proxy under the unbelievable propaganda 'to secure peace and democracy for the Nepalese people and to arrest the impending refugee inflow into its own territory'."

Change a word here and there, and the logic is identical to the debacle that became IPKF. It is further noteworthy that in the three bloody years that followed July 1987, IPKF acquitted itself well in "India's Vietnam" (as it was called by the press), even as Indian policymakers sought to cast blame for the blunder on anyone and everyone except themselves. (The most ludicrous position, of course, was the very one the Maoists advance now: it is all the fault of American imperialism.)

Where to From Here?

As irony would have it, it is the growing amicability of India and the US which has served as the strategic cover for New Delhi to bring Kathmandu to heel. Nepali sources have become increasingly blunt (and strident) in the same manner as the Sri Lankans all those years ago, as the Indian ties to Nepali violence become more clear.

One does not have to engage in plot mongering to posit that India is making a major policy error in steering its present course. Neither does one have to cast aspersions to point out the obvious: the SPA portion of SPAM has been willing to play the quisling for momentary political gain.

For it will be momentary, come what may. Let us suppose that the present government collapsed tomorrow. Where would that leave SPA? With two useless pieces of paper and a worthless sheath of promises.

What is tragic is that very little would seem to separate the sides at the moment save profound mistrust. The king agrees that parliamentary democracy should be restored with a constitutional monarch. The Maoists claim they will accept a democratic republic of whatever sort is decided by a constitutional convention. SPA claims the same. SPAM as a whole claims to desire a "ceremonial monarch" (but the "M" has been unwilling to desist from claiming a trial or exile is the only way out for the present monarch). RNA would become a true "national" army, which, not surprisingly, it already thinks it is.

It is important to interject RNA into the discussion, because the shape of any successor organization was a major sticking point in the previous 2003 round of ceasefire talks. SPAM seems to think this institution will simply agree to dissolve itself without discussions of what this entails.

That this will not happen was put to the Maoists directly in 2003, but they were as unwilling then to grapple with the complexities thus raised as they appear to be now. Yet the growing stratum of combat-tested, politically astute officers is not simply going to go as lambs to the slaughter.

Thus a great deal more thought is required upon the part of all sides. This will not take place as long as SPAM persists in its present course.

Dr. Thomas A. Marks is a political risk consultant based in Honolulu, Hawaii and a frequent visitor to Nepal. He has authored a number of benchmark works on Maoist insurgency. Please send your comments to feedback@mos.com.np.
 
Posted on 04-13-06 8:56 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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iithi haas banaoone le banaoonchha.

lekhne le lekchha

analyse garne le analyse garchha

herne le herchha

jasko sakti ooskai bhakti

Long live NEPAL.
 
Posted on 04-13-06 9:56 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Red Alert:

Maoists wont be autocractic, and they will foster democracy. Their strategy now is to clean their faces which is stained by violence. Once they are able to do that, they hope to be elected by majority in the elections and rule nepal.

I dont buy your consipiracy theory, after king is gone, MB will be the major force, however, they could go down as well, if they act like other political parties after 1990.
 
Posted on 04-13-06 10:12 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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I would have to Agree with Ashu !!
ALL OF THEM ARE IN IT FOR THEMSELVES. THEY DON'T GIVE A HORSE'S ASS ABOUT THE PEOPLE. THE KING, THE PARTIES, OR THE 7PARTIES are all fighting for a bigger peice of PIZZA PIE called POWER. While the people trying to make ends meet, Suffer.
 
Posted on 04-13-06 10:19 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Red alert I agree with you. These people who are running after democracy blindly are not ready to accept that the Maoists are bad.

I am not willing to place my bets on the Maoists, until they release all the forcibly enrolled people in their army.
 
Posted on 04-13-06 10:49 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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People are running Blindly !! For example people that are going to be protesting in NYC, what are they protesting about ? Ok the king gives up the power !! Then comes the TUG OF War between the Wolves and the Vultures. ITs not even close to being over yet !!! This is just the preview.. While the poor people living on to day to day basis perish.
 
Posted on 04-13-06 10:58 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Red Alert, I could not agree more.

Although democracy is something to die for, the consequent Maoist rule would be such an unfortunate irony for the deaths of thousands who are seeking democracy.

PLEASE SPREAD THIS MESSAGE TO AS MANY AS YOU CAN BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
 
Posted on 04-13-06 10:58 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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newuser,
Couldn't agree more with your analysis. Excellent!

Ashu,

यो चाकबाट बोलेको कि मुखबाट?

'The parties' short-term strategy, assuming they are after a chance to wield some power, is to negotiate a deal with the king in some manner, maybe with Deuba as
the next PM.'

This is so incredibly stupid, no wonder Bathroomcoffee agrees with you. His support sums it all up. That's right, it's that bad.
 
Posted on 04-13-06 11:02 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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राजा बचाउनको लागि राजा कै समर्थकहरुले (eg- shresthaN, red alert), राजा बदमाशै हो गधा नै हो तर माओबादी आउन चाँहि दिन हुदैन भन्न थालिसके। त्यो पनि राम्रै हो।
 
Posted on 04-13-06 11:06 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Smart thinking chakku. Now you finally understand why me and so many others support the King and not the parties and Maoists at the moment :)
 
Posted on 04-13-06 11:11 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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तर उल्लूको पट्ठा, जति धेरै ज्ञानेको रवैया लम्बिदै जान्छ उति धेरै माओबादी बढ्दै जान्छन भन्ने सानो कुरो पनि तेरो दिमागमा आउँदैन?
 
Posted on 04-13-06 11:15 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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chakku babu, just because someone is concerned about the Maoist taking over Nepal does not mean that
a. they are kings supporter
and
b. they are against democracy

They are just trying to excecise caution before it's too late.

People who term them as kings supporter are missing the core essense of democracy whereby each individual is free to voice their opinions in a respectful way without resorting to name calling, and making false accusation (kings supporter).
 
Posted on 04-13-06 11:16 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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It is really awful that Universities in Israel teach students to vomit bad words in cyber forums. What do you say? :)
 
Posted on 04-13-06 11:23 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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The root of the problem was the strugle for power between Congress and Coomunist. When this started, the King(Birendra GOD REST HIS SOUL) was not even in the picture. At the moment its a 3 way struggle, we still have yet to see the 2way yet. I seriously doubt Giriza and his cronies are going to sit and watch while the Mao's run the country(that is if theysuceed). If not then we are back to square one where we initially started. Congress Vs Communist. I do not see any light at the end of the Tunnell. UNLESS THEY SIT DOWN AND MEDIATE(which power hungry vultures will never do).
 
Posted on 04-13-06 11:38 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Thanks Laura, for bring the article to our attention.

Great in-depth eye opening analysis of the present situation that can't be seen or thought of during the riots, curfew, julus, bandhas, etc. Highly recommend anyone else who happens to read this ( I know this because most of the time we are only worried about getting our point across....it's almost become an underlying culture of us nepalis), please read the article from Laura's posting.

Thanks!
 
Posted on 04-13-06 11:43 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Laura that article by Dr. Thomas A. Marks does flow with the topic of this thread. So this strategy is not just some BS.

We should distribute this info to everyone we can. We should not be pawns in the Maoist cause.
 
Posted on 04-13-06 1:02 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Time to go home, folks.
Got notice to pack my bags.
I will miss Nepalese people.
But as Arnie said, " I WILL BE BACK."
 
Posted on 04-13-06 1:23 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Laura,

Thanks for the article. Have a safe trip.
 
Posted on 04-13-06 3:28 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Some pro democracy people seemed to have been irked by my posting. I don't blame them. I support democracy fully, but with the Maoist Strategy uncovered (even Laura has posted similar stance held by the american writer), you all need to ask yourself the following question:

If you were to choose between the KING and the MAOIST, who would you choose?

 
Posted on 04-13-06 4:34 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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NO TO RAJA, NO TO MAOIST.
YES TO FULL DEMOCRACY!
 



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