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 A Vixen and a Gentleman

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Posted on 06-11-13 8:43 PM     [Snapshot: 274]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Male Chauvinist Pig

Of all the people in the Sajha, you Behoove. I would have never expected you would resort to this. Now that you have done it and I have completely lost my will to participate in Sajha. I still love the dramatization that you have provided in the narration, I must be imagined as evil witch and you are on course on your witch hunt. I wish for similar dramatization here as in Julius Caesar with "Eh tu, Behoove." At the end of this story you will be knighted, and offered accolades in the forms of LIKES, while I will be one to be torched in my defiant act of standing out and speaking.

I still have fond memories of you while you may not remember me, I am actually subscribed to your post. Over the span of two years I have followed you in shadow. No doubt, you are a wordsmith as you are able to depict me as evil person hissing and my screams having  ability to shake your computer screen. I wish I had those abilities. I don't mind you attacking me, I just expected  you did that with more class.

My "F Yous" were directly at the site's administrator lack of moderation. I never wanted to attack any one personally. It could have been my frustration that lead to the outburst. I admit I might have gone little overboard. Yes, I was very angry. I might not have participated in Sajha as much as you did, nor have I offered in the magnitude you do, but somehow I used to feel there is bond among the people who travel and settle thousands of miles away from home. Sadly, those people still hold same mindset.  No matter how angry I was, I still felt bad for the outburst and decided that I should offer my apologies. I entered the room and I was demanded "An apology".  I just could not surrender myself to bruised egos.

You decided to use adjectives such as harlots, hooker to develop my character as such I will regard my anonymity as a boon. Did you see me Behoove calling names at Neo? I only directed two "F Yous" to him and reflect once that you might as well have daughter one day and these constant harassing will serve you reminder.

Why would I direct my fury at Neo? Because I felt he was responsible to keep things in order. I saw his lack of actions as silent endorsement  of things that keeps going on. I just had to make myself heard. Don't mistake my unwillingness to debate with something else, it was actually my respect for you that I did not want to get involved.  That is only reason I left the room in the first place.

Like you said, neo could care less about individual like me. I can agree to that.

I am glad we will never meet in person and I never proclaimed messiah in anonymity. In fact, you have proclaimed yourself as messiah of the "Male chauvinist pigs" by writing this diatribe. Only a male chauvinist can find relation between changing a tampon and banning a user.

 

Yours Truly

Ojaswi Rana


 
Posted on 06-13-13 5:44 PM     [Snapshot: 2135]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@ Neo bro, you talked about liking Obama but conveniently forgot that Behoove's diatribe was not about liking someone, but hating someone. There is no analogy there. Bringing yourself down to the level of those ruffians in Nepal who are always very trigger happy with the words Randi, beshya, bh.alu. Really I see no difference between those ruffians and you US educated so called intellectuals cum gentleman. The second I read Behoove's vomit, I got reminded of those good for nothings in Nepal who themselves are characterless. And yet here you are still defending your thumbs up. Cannot you see plain and clearly that it insults womanhood and her character?. The main reason why I tried with you guys is because you all are well educated. I am not perfect brother, I make mistakes too but there are some lines that must not be crossed. I still insist you guys apologize to the lady. It is the right thing to do. It is never too late. Do some soul searching you will understand.
 
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Freedom bro your writing skills are very good and I admire your ability to continue to perservere on your point of view even after your doubts should have been erased :)

I thought the reason you wanted me to apologize was because of my 'like' that is why the analogy of 'liking' obama makes perfect sense here :)

Please reread my earlier response and feel free to dissect it and question it. I have already told you what the like was for and just like you i dont endorse use of words such as harlot in any kind of situation. So clearly we agree on this issue. Do you still want me to apologize for understanding the meaning of the word 'like' differently than you?
 
Posted on 06-13-13 6:50 PM     [Snapshot: 2228]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@ Neo bro, I can understand where you are coming from. However, your logic remains wrong. Let me give you a loose analogy which I can think of at present. The song baa baa black sheep is banned at present even though it is a harmless nursery rhyme. The reason being that recently it was found the black sheep was used to refer to a negro. So there is no such thing as liking the "3 bags full" part of it. I always loved the "one for the little boy who lives down the lane" part of it. Songs get banned. Movies get banned. All because of a word or a scene. Sir, you liked a hate speech. And one that addressed a woman as a ran.di. I look at the whole post before I like it. You may have reasons to be upset with Ojaswi but you should be responsible too. You might be scared of losing a good friend. What is more important, your morals or your friend?. I would choose my morals any day. Friends come and go, morals don't. Ojaswi is someone's daughter or sister. You are also insulting them. And by apologizing you will be putting yourself and your background into good light. Surely you hated those good for nothings in Nepal who mouth these profanities in Nepal. For the same reason, you need to hate this post. A lot of people are watching. We need to set some examples.
 
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Just because a woman is mad and throws f-bombs does not make her a "harlot". Period. I have been a silent reader of Behoove_me for many years but now he has lost my respect. Your statement "banning users in sajha isn't as as easy as changing tampons" shows your stereotypical mindset. Your post is derogatory to women and what is even more pathetic is that some of the people are defending him. Two wrongs dont make a right, you just made it worse by bringing out a very ugly side of yourself. arulai ke bhanne aafnai padhe lekheko manchhe haru le women haru lai "randi, [Disallowed String for - use of word not allowed]" bhanchhan just to "put her in her place"..it is really sad.
 
Posted on 06-13-13 8:40 PM     [Snapshot: 2356]     Reply [Subscribe]
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I am not expecting any sympathies or questions in return, but this is getting more interesting than I thought. So one last clarification, in humor, but certainly not on my defense:
 
-         It was more than a F BOMB, but since no one was there to witness it except myself ne0 and few others, you wouldn’t not understand it. Wait, why am I even saying this? You guys already loaded your Kalashnikovs and that you do not care. Guess what? I don’t either.
 
-         For the record, if someone yells in that fashion without credible reason or a rationale, I will use the term ‘harlot’ again and again. Hell she definitely didn’t scream like a virgin Mary. Apologies my a$$, this is sajha, not a church. We write comments, not bible. Had it been a guy I would have called him a prick or an a$$hole, but she since I thought it was a girl I just wanted to use the word that came best on my mind. Cry me a river but I thought that was apt and shall always think so. If my sister were in that place I would have called her the same, no less. Chauvinist and a bad brother ain’t I? Tsk Tsk. Maybe you could talk about incest too.
 
-         Speaking of respect I have gained or not over the year I could care less, again, this is sajha, we all are anonymous, you can hate me all you want but I could perhaps be your brother-in-law in reality, to sum it up, who cares?
 
-         Also, funny how all phantoms suddenly come out in a thread that speaks negatively on me when they claim they silently appreciated me all this time without being visible, not that I deserve any respect or appreciation but hey, why suddenly grind a blade over just one thread? To everyone who never post in sajha but are quick to leave a comment judging the writer, dare post something controversial and live through it, I dared, and I am still undaunted.
 
-         Am I a male chauvinist who doesn’t respect women? I didn’t know that until now, but since you guys say it unanimously I guess I am. Seriously? Anonymous guys in sajha? Keyboard ninzas? And you want me to feel sorry about myself? Take a hike fellas. Wait let me check, does that hurt my paycheck? No, it doesn’t, great, so eff you.
 
-         I have apologized before in my threads, and even received flaks for being too mild, I thought I was admitting my mistake and that was a right thing to do, but not this time. If you think I am a total jerk who needs to be pillaged and crucified, be my guest, but find me first
 
Now since I am a BAD guy, how is this for a humor?
 
Ne0, now that the web traffic has really caught up, and that sajha chat is inundated with visitors, it is time to send me that check bruv.
 
And oh, send a paltry amount to that rana frog too, bitch’s been trippin’
 
(Just kiddin’, I learnt in sajha that you can say anything you wish and get away with it as long as you are ‘kiddin’).
 
Classless? Idiot? Prick? Mofo? Demented? Insane? Insecure? Sexist? Arrogant? Nazi? Jacka$$? A$$hole? Rapist? Character Assasinator?
 
Or some wisecracks from some GandharwaitIforgothisname?
 
Bring it on fellas.
 
Bidding Adios from this thread, keep ‘em comments flowing, it is an absolute pleasure to see bunch of idiots getting all worked up for things that they do not know.;-)
 
Sincerely yours,
 
The biggest male chauvinist in sajha – Behoove
 
Posted on 06-13-13 8:43 PM     [Snapshot: 2345]     Reply [Subscribe]
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ojawsi, you can drag me in this mess, I don't have any concern and I'm really embarrased the way I behaved those first few encounters with ppl on chat and forum alike. With time, things change, so did I. I'm not trying to be a sage, and thanks for posting that shot. Neo and others are well aware of how I started here on and they very well acknowledge am not the one like I used to be. If you still think, am same , thats fine, I've no problem with people living off the past, but the way you acted towards Neo as written by the post originator, that's in my opinion is nothing but humiliation and somewhat similar to bipolar behavior. But like I've written in my last comment, I mean it and I have nothing to do with who you are and what you do. Just don't use the super human strength that we all acquire behind the screen and go on cussing ppl around. That doesn't sound right, am not even criticizing, just saying in normal calm tone if you would see me in real saying the same thing. Rest, you are the intelligent one, you know it. Be good, do Good. If possible, forgive me for all those pain I caused to you.


 
Posted on 06-13-13 9:01 PM     [Snapshot: 2378]     Reply [Subscribe]
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"If my sister were in that place I would have called her the same, no less" "I will use the term ‘harlot’ again and again." Behooveji, I had like to apologize to you for asking you to apologize because I thought you were a human being.
 
Posted on 06-13-13 9:17 PM     [Snapshot: 2414]     Reply [Subscribe]
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Look how the distinguished civilized dignitaries of sajha are pointing fingers at each other in a less uncivilized way....
Kudos sajha prabhu
 
Posted on 06-13-13 9:58 PM     [Snapshot: 2451]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 I am against anyone using any kind of foul langauage to anyone be it gender, race, religion or anything. Look into my past post and u'll understand me. As per behoove, Ojaswi used the foul language first and behoove retaliate it thru this thread.  KARMA is a bitch aint it?

Apology my ass.

 
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Freedom bro, I appreciate you bringing up the example of Ba Ba Black Sheep because it shows your thought pattern :) I don't think anyone in sajha cares whether or not ba ba black sheep should be banned but they will sing it happily with children when they can.

To be honest I had never heard about that song being banned. They even teach it at kindergarten in the US right now so I don't know where you are getting this information from. A quick google shows some instances of "baa baa black sheep banned" as a "myth" so it's very well possible that it is not even an issue. Even if it is, you have to be really anal to want to ban the age old children's song because one word out of the whole song is considered offensive.

At this same time, I know it's really easy to preach morals using an anonymous nickname. It is especially ironical when the person you are trying to stand up for i.e. Ojaswi Rana could be a MAN using a woman's nickname which seems highly likely when analyzing the person's behavior using another nickname.

I have already said that  I agree with you that I do not endorse the usage of those feminine insulting words. So what do i have to apologize for? But it's amusing to note that you just skip that sentence altogether and go on into your own diatribe about how you are right and I am wrong :) Why don't you do me a favor and just tell me one thing-- What exactly do I need to apologize for? Is it for liking Behoove's post? Or do I need to apologize for your personal interpretation of my supposed endorsement of every word used in the post?

Well guess what? This is the world of sajha and we can agree to disagree. Not everyone has to always agree with someone and it seems like we dont' agree with each other but that is not the end of the world and we can move on.

By the way, haven't seen you around sajha for a while, how was your vacation?

 
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http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/racist-baa-baa-black-sheep-put-out-to-pasture/story-e6frfku0-1226012652386 It is not a myth. I brought it up to highlight the fact that moral appropriateness is even acknowledged at kid level. It is not banned everywhere simply because of the notion that kids cannot be racist. The fact remains that you cannot sing it like mary had a little lamb anymore. As I see it, why you should apologize is self explanatory. At the end of the day, you are doing it for yourself, not me. You are doing it for your family, not mine. As a human being, I thought it as my duty to object. My vacation was fine thanks. I have always distanced myself from the likes of Behoove etc and life is bliss. They say charity begins at home and so does respect. Someone who cannot respect his own will never respect others. It does not matter if Ojaswi is a girl or guy because we are talking about moral values here. I giver her benefit of doubt that she is a lady. when you are old and you reflect on your life and those simple things you could have to make the difference and you did not. I hope you do not have any regrets.
 
Posted on 06-14-13 8:44 AM     [Snapshot: 2717]     Reply [Subscribe]
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 LMAO moral values...sometimes i get good laugh out of these dramatic comments, reminds me of "mere paas ma hey" type dialogue
 
Posted on 06-14-13 9:00 AM     [Snapshot: 2727]     Reply [Subscribe]
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It is such a same Sajha has come to this. After following this thread for three days I am assuming I am qualified for writing about this topic. My view on this topic is based on the limited knowledge I have accumulated following this thread.
 
It did not need to end like this or rather continue like this. There are so many alternate endings to this parody.
 
Everything would have been nice if Neo or the Sajha administrators would have realized that there was actual need to do something about people who are creating havoc which lead to this. It would have been nice if people were able to reconcile their differences in the chatroom itself.
 
But someone had better ideas, he couldnot resist spilling it out outside. It is with this person I have great problem. It is the way he is expressing. Throughout the thread he has been consistently attacking this person Ojaswi. There seems to be no fight or resistance put up by this female. She clearly explained her F bombs were because of her frustration. She even confessed her thought of apology and her last minute withdrawal. But Behoove and his overly inflated online persona would do anything to garner some attention. Last time he made fun of "Shiva" and being a devout man I still let him slide for his ignorance. This time he has been attacking this person in very disrespectful way. First of all, there was no word spoken at Behoove at the time when he started writing the first page of this "Mahabharat." Why did he feel need to defend Neo? Can Neo not speak for himself or does he need a Personal Assistant.
 
It could have ended much earlier if Neo would have taken this post down considering it was such a disrespectful post against women and even he did not agree with it in many ways. Now that it has been running for so many days the true character of Behoove has come out. He has been consistently attacking Ojaswi calling derogatory terms like Harlot, hooker because someone was expressing her frustration. I never saw Ojaswi respond in similar way. In fact she has been respectful all the way. The reference to Tampons was totally uncalled for. People were consistently were asking for an apology and he goes on to say I would have done same to my sister and even mentions incest. Clearly it describes where he comes from. Would you have called your mother also same thing? Just out of curiosity I ask. Since you are so bold enough to mention such things I won't be surprised with any answer I get.
 
Respect is a two way street. Nobody gives a rat ass about a keyboard hero who garners attention disrespecting other's belief, religion and women.
 
All this hate was directed towards a women in an online forum and finally we come to know she could have well been a man. How stupid does this look now with all this information?
 
This shows how people are so eager to pounce on women even when it is just an online character.

Just because we all are anonymous doesnot mean we need to disrespect other people or attempt to hurt others sentiments. These online persona does describe your sub concious mind and your flow of thinking under the cloak of anonymity. 


 
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Would you have called your mother also same thing? 

shows your upbringing and what kind of family background you come from....

 
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 अंग्रेजी भाषामा धुरन्धरहरु बीच नेपालीमा लेख्ने धृष्टता गरेको छु , सुरु मै क्षमा प्रार्थी छु . 
 
कुनै मित्रले म लगायतलाई बेहूवे को पोस्ट लाई लाइक गरेको भर मा क्षमा माग्नु पर्ने पटक पटक माग गर्नु भएको सम्बधमा दुइ हात जोडेर क्षमा माग्दछु . कृपया माफ गर्नु होला . 
 
 
बेहूबे को उक्त पोस्टको अक्षरस समर्थन गर्दै लाइक गरेको सम्झनु भए माफ गर्नुस तपाइँ को अज्ञानता हो . पोस्ट को भाव लाइ लाइक गरेको हुँ. ओजस्वी राणाले वाक्यै  पिच्छे  सभ्य समाजको सार्बजनिक मंच मा अपाच्य शब्दावली वमन गर्दा त्यो चाट रूम मा म पनि थिएँ. पटक पटक मैले बिनाम्रतापूर्बक यस्तो आप्पत्तिजनक शब्द प्रयोग  सार्बजनिक फोरम मा नगर्न आग्रह पनि गरेको हुँ . सुन्नु भएन . सान ब्रो लाई तथानाम गालि बर्षाउन व्यस्त हुनु भयो . 

बेहूबे पनि त्यति बेला चाट रूम मै थिए र उसले पनि एफ शब्द को अप्पति प्रकट गरेका थिए . राणाजीले जुन बिषय मा अप्पत्ति जनाउ गर्न असभ्य भाषा  प्रयोग गर्नु भा थ्यो , त्यति बेला हामी पनि त्यै बिषयमा कुरा गर्दै थियौं .... एक महिला  लेखकको मान मर्यादामा आंच आउने र चरित्र हत्या गर्ने गरी केहि साझा का उपबुज्रुक मित्रहरुले टिप्पणी गरेकोमा आपत्ति जनाउदै त्यस्ता सम्प्रेषणहरुलाई कसरी नियन्त्रण गर्न सकिन्छ भन्ने बारे सान ब्रो , बेहूबे र अरु मित्रहरु माझ छलफल हुँदै थियो . त्यति बेला नै राणाजी को गालि प्रवेश भयो र एकोहोरो आपत्तिजनक शब्दको झरी झार्नु भयो . 

बिषय एउतै थियो अन्तर शब्दावली को . बेहूबे ले प्रयोग गरेको केही शब्दहरु शालीन छैनन् , फिर्ता लिए बेश हुन्छ. 

राणा जीको बचाव गर्न लाम लाएका केही मत्रहरुलाई वास्तविकता बुझी यो बहस मा पसिना बगाउन आग्रह गर्दै  पुन: एक पटक माफी माग्दछु .. 
धब्यबाद ...

 
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 Makes complete sense what dhartiputro wrote!!! 
 
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Freedom, there you go beating around the bush again!

I asked you explicitly, precisely, specifically, *what* I need to apologize for, and you go on your own repetitive tangent about *why*.

Let me repost my request to you:

I have already said that  I agree with you that I do not endorse the usage of those feminine insulting words. So what do i have to apologize for? But it's amusing to note that you just skip that sentence altogether and go on into your own diatribe about how you are right and I am wrong :) Why don't you do me a favor and just tell me one thing-- What exactly do I need to apologize for? Is it for liking Behoove's post? Or do I need to apologize for your personal interpretation of my supposed endorsement of every word used in the post?

In the meantime do check this link for the Baa Baa black sheep myth.
LINK: Baa Baa Black Sheep - Some Ridiculous Stories About it Being Banned Are (Obviously) Untrue
 
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@ Neo, you are creating a red herring out of baa baa black sheep now. Back then, it was even on TV and local newspapers. That rhyme is about a negro going around selling wool. "one for my master". It has its origins during the slave days. Listen to the rhyme again, this is also self explanatory. Listen and see if it makes the same sense it did while listening to it as a kid. Maybe the banning part is a myth but I am not sure all schools still teach the kids the rhyme. Now you are simply trying to get some respect out of this by distancing yourself from those invectives. If what you said was true, it would not take a day (Look I have not counted, just a guess) for you to distance yourself from the "sh.it" part of it from the "cake" part of it. While I maintain the whole piece is sh.it, I can understand some people may find cake in shit too. I will give you benefit of doubt that you indeed found some cake in the sh.it and a thumbs up is eating that cake. It is another thing that normal people will not eat a cake laced with shi.t or even near it. It should destroy his/her appetite for few days. Ok let us say that you are hungry and have not eaten for days and about to die and you found a cake in sh.it and you have no other option but to eat it. So just before or after eating it, you should clarify thus...."Whereas I consider myself a hygienic person, due to unforeseen circumstances, I have to eat the cake. I will clean it properly, put it in the sunlight for a few hours to kill the bacteria. However, I do not encourage people to do likewise. It is injurious to health." But Sir, you did nothing of that sort....waited....waited....and it is already too late coz I already put a photograph of you eating the cake from the sh.it. :) So this is why you have to apologize. For pretending to be a clean person when the fact is there is some sh,it in your hands.
 
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Sorry, the paragraphing seems not to be working in mine.
 
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 Never knew a single word can create this much havoc.......now we know.It was quite obvious to get all these criticism and attention to a gifted writer like behoove when he succumb to his spur of moment impulses and say things which doesn't match with his former virtual identity.Had it been said by some other virtual shenanigans of Sajha,it would have been already vanished in the ether but it was behoove --who in Sajha is much celebrated--comes up with something that leave his readers(including myself) alarmed.I would never recommend anyone to bite back a dog in the name of reprisal if the dog happen to bite him/her and it is indeed surprising when men of merits carry such things.Cussing someone is a bad thing ,we might do it multiple times in a single day but we know deep inside that it's a bad thing and we can never morph it into saying ,"its a good thing", no matter how many logic and reason you put into it and walking about drumming the rhetoric over and over again.Apology and acceptence are two different things and it's upto the subject to choose which side to cling.It  is quite awful when someone like behoove forget  there is word named "humility "too in a dictionary while singing out  acrimonously, being enraged in something which has magnitude to shake his computer screen but  I do know sometimes good people say/act bad things and that doesn't mean they are bad...it's just mean they are humans too.
 



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TPS Re-registration case still pending ..
What are your first memories of when Nepal Television Began?
Anybody gotten the TPS EAD extension alert notice (i797) thing? online or via post?
TPS Re-registration
Democrats are so sure Trump will win
Basnet or Basnyat ??
TPS EAD auto extended to June 2025 or just TPS?
nrn citizenship
Toilet paper or water?
Sajha has turned into MAGATs nest
Nas and The Bokas: Coming to a Night Club near you
ढ्याउ गर्दा दसैँको खसी गनाउच
Mamta kafle bhatt is still missing
ChatSansar.com Naya Nepal Chat
whats wrong living with your parents ?
डीभी परेन भने खुसि हुनु होस् ! अमेरिकामाधेरै का श्रीमती अर्कैसँग पोइला गएका छन् !
3 most corrupt politicians in the world
अमेरिकामा बस्ने प्राय जस्तो नेपालीहरु सबै मध्यम बर्गीय अथवा माथि (higher than middle class)
Nas and The Bokas: Coming to a Night Club near you
TPS Update : Jajarkot earthquake
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