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bisal123
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Posted on 06-19-08 4:44
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Hi guys, When I read this story, I thougt this is too much, Matrika Yadav should get punished for his action. But after I read his statement today in a Newspaper, I realize that may be he did the right thing, corruptions is spreading like cancer, we would be leaving Bangladesh behind soon.
I know and I support that nobody should take law in their hand excpet the authorized personnel, but some time you have to close your eyes for sake of society and country.
भ्रष्टलाई थुनेकै हो, अरूलाई पनि थुन्छु’
काठमाडौं, (नेस) वन तथा भू-संरक्षणमन्त्री मातृका यादवले स्थानीय विकास अधिकारीलाई आफूले ट्वाइलेटमा थुनेको स्वीकार्दै त्यस्ता भ्रष्टलाई थुन्नु नै पर्ने बताउनुभएको छ।
व्यवस्थापिका-संसद्को हैसियतमा बुधबार बसेको संविधानसभा बैठकमा सभासद्हरूले उठाएको जिज्ञासाको जबाफ दिँदै मन्त्री यादवले भन्नुभयो- भ्रष्टाचारीलाई थुन्नैपर्छ र म वन मन्त्रालयमा छउन्जेल कुनै पनि हालतमा भ्रष्टाचार हुन दिन्न।’
र्ँकर्मचारी थुनेको विषयमा छानबिन हुन्छ भने होस्। त्यसमा मेरो पनि सहयोग रहन्छ’ -मन्त्री यादवले अन्य भ्रष्ट कर्मचारीलाई पनि थुन्ने काम हुने चेतावनीसमेत दिनुभयो।
भ्रष्ट, फटाहा कर्मचारी होस् वा अरू कोही त्यस्ता कसैलाई पनि आफूले बाँकी नराख्ने बताउँदै मन्त्री यादवले भन्नुभयो- दुगन्धित व्यक्तिलाई दुगन्धमै राख्नुपर्छ भनेर ट्वाइलेटमा थुनेको हो।’गल्ती गर्नेलाई कारबाही गर्दा मैले कारबाही भोग्नुपर्छ भने म तयार छु। तर म जहाँ रहे पनि भ्रष्टलाई छोड्दिनँ’ -मन्त्री यादवले भन्नुभयो।
प्रहरीलाई जिम्मा लगायो भने प्रहरीसमेत मिलेर भ्रष्टलाई एस्कर्टिङ’ गर्छ र सफाइ दिन्छ। त्यसैले आफैले कारबाही गर्नुपरेको हो’ -उहाँको थप भनाइ थियो।
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Posted on 06-19-08 10:24
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What can we expect from corrupt officials like Ghimire??He is a paradigm of typical Nepali civil servant.If sb dares to penalize those profane officials,i would appreciate that endeavor.Forget about the rules and monitory system of Nepal,they aint gonna do a shit.We witnessed their actions in past and r not in a state of bearing more.All those officials who made shitloads of money were never touched and r still rejoicing on that god damn money...so i aint gonna trust on that blummer that he could have been penalized a/c to the law.If few ministers step forward,these motherfckers will defintely ameliorate.They are just taking the advantages of impotent so called law of poor country. Last not the least,forget about how a crooked second class officer should be treated,alrite??Those so called high officers who try to play with money of poor Nepali if hanged even dont deserve words of condolence.
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Posted on 06-19-08 10:52
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an excerpt from mysansar
समस्याको पृष्ठभूमिः ललितपुरको एउटा सामुदायिक वनमा
ढुंगाखानी सञ्चालन भइरहेको छ केही समयअघिदेखि नै। ढुंगाखानीले वातावरण
विनाश भइरहेकोमा स्थानीय बासिन्दाहरुको चर्को विरोध रहे पनि र कानुनले
नदिए पनि शक्ति कै आधारमा पेलेरै त्यहाँ ढुंगाखानी सञ्चालन भइरहेको छ।
ढुंगाखानी चलाउनेहरुले मिडियालाई पनि धम्क्याउन छाडेका छैनन्। ‘कान्तिपुर
टिभी’ को कान्तिपुर आज कार्यक्रमका संवाददाताहरुलाई त हातै छाडेका थिए
त्यहाँका कर्मचारीहरुले धम्की दिँदै केही समयअगाडि। घटनाको पृष्ठभूमिः वन मन्त्रालयमा यही विषयमा सोधपूछ
गर्न मन्त्री यादवले स्थानीय विकास अधिकारी लगायतका सरोकारवालाहरुलाई
बोलाएका रहेछन्। वातावरणमा असर परिरहेकोले कानुन अनुसार ढुंगाखानी बन्द
गर्नलाई मन्त्री यादवले भन्दा उनले मानेनछन्। अनि मन्त्रीलाई नै अप्ठ्यारो
हुने गरी भनाभन गरेछन्। त्यसै त उट्पट्याङ्गे काम गर्नका लागि माहिर
(अंगरक्षक सेनालाई थुन्ने, शपथ ग्रहण नगर्ने आदिआदि) यादवलाई अनि त के
चाहियो र, पारो चढिहाल्यो। “ए, ल हेर वातावरण बिग्र्यो भने कस्तो हुँदो
रहेछ महसूस गर” भन्दै एलडीअोलाई ट्वाइलेटमा थुनिदिएछन्।
एलडीअोले आफ्नो सम्पर्कमार्फत् यो कुरालाई पत्रिकामा प्रचारमा ल्याइदिएछन्। र पो त यो नौटंकीका बारेमा हामी सबलाई थाहा हुन पुग्यो।
मन्त्री यादव आफै यो कुरालाई स्वीकार्छन्, थुनेकै हो भन्छन्। तर एलडीअोको कुरा भने त्यसरी प्रष्ट आएको छैन।
पदीय
मर्यादा भुल्ने मन्त्री अनि गैर कानुनी कामलाई बढावा दिने एलडीअो दुवैको
कामले वास्तवमा कानुनी शासन बहाल होस् भन्ने चाहना भएका हामी नेपालीलाई पो
लज्जित बनायो त।
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bikash kc
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Posted on 06-19-08 11:53
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besha
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Posted on 06-20-08 12:47
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When the country has minister like Yadav who is actively protesting the corrupt officer, people are protesting and collecting money to improve Yadav's mental health. Are we that dumb or are there very few people like Yadav left in Nepal. What is going on??? It seems like majority of Nepalese are corrupted and ready to prove that Yadav is a psycho but deny their corrupt intentions. Saale chor vaate kukur corrupt officer. He should have been locked up in Sahid Gate's Toilet. Yadav's toilet is too clean for him to be locked up. Jai Nepal.
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besha
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Posted on 06-20-08 1:01
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I would recommend the government officials who are on strike against Yadav to resign or to stop this nuisance activity. And the government should open vacant positions in place of those officials(so called corrupt revolutionists). Believe me my friends there are lots of good citizens who needs a job and would replace these blood suckers. And in future there would be no strike to protest corrupt officer. That would be a great move.
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Posted on 06-20-08 3:23
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मलाई अचम्म लाग्छ , एउटा अनौठो सन्काहा सँधै उटपटाङ गर्न मन पराउने मधिशे भएकै कारणले मन्त्री जस्तो गरिमामय पदमा बसेको छ । हाइपरटेन्सनको बिरामी रहेको यो मन्त्री नामको मानवले एउटा सामान्य विद्यार्थी कार्यकर्ताको शैलिमा बोली र व्यवहार देखाउने बाहेक केही जानेको छैन । अनि उसले बेलाबेलामा सनसनी मच्चाउने अण्टसण्ट गरिरहन्छ र बाँकि मान्छेहरू ' अँ ठीक गरिस्' भन्दै कुम बजाउन आइपुग्छन ।
अहिलेको खाँचो पद्दति बसाउनु हो , मन्त्री स्वयं वाइसिएलगिरीमा उत्रिनु हैन । माओवादी मन्त्री भएकै आधारमा जे पनि गर्दा हुने हो भने , माओवादी हत्या र अत्याचारका गतिविधिको छानविन र दण्डसजाँय हुनुपर्ने हुन्छ कि हुन्न, त्यो पनि बताउन पर्यो । अहिलेको नेपाली दण्डहीनता र माओवादी दण्डशैलि त संसारको कुनै सभ्य ठाउँमा सम्भव पनि छैन । यस्तो तमाशालाई न्यायको दुहाइ दिएर ताली पिट्नेहरू त मान्छे हैनन् जस्तो लाग्छ , यी अर्ध मनुवा हुन् ।
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Hulaki
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Posted on 06-20-08 6:49
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This country is sucked by thugs, corrupted and the mafia. You cannot catch up a single culprit by using rules that Gyane and his lackeys established. In the past, minister of nepal had just a ceremonial role, the burocrats did the real stuff.... with links to the palace.
matrika wants to come out of the box. Thats the right way to go Zadav comrade.........well done. Ordinary people dont care Gyane's bourgeois and feudal etikettes..........they want to see the culprits punched......
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amitraja
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Posted on 06-20-08 8:24
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Mr. Hulaki,
I think these people are responsible for lives of 14000 Nepalis, in that case some one can kill them without any trails or tribunals.
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prabhat k
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Posted on 06-20-08 9:15
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What would you do if Matrika Yadav comes to you and locks u in a toilet because someone complained against you to him that u r corrupt. Do you expect all of us to applaud Matrika? Don't you expect a fair investigation.
I don't know how corrupt that officer was. It's not a movie like Shahenshah where the superhero is the cop, the lawyer and the judge.
In a civilized society, there is a thing called power allocation, there is a reason why there are cops, lawyers, judiciary, free press, and above all transparency. Why a minister clings to his position if he can't abide by the law or for that matter have no respect for the law. Do we want people like N Korea's leader who is probably everything, a government by himself. Or do we need a democratic system, flawed it may be, but gives a fair chance for everyone to defend himself against accusations.
Matrika might have been right, but he is no god to punish someone by himself. If that's the example he sets, and that's what we applaud honestly I have nothing to say on this matter. Chapter closed for me.
But put yourself in a civil servant shoes and think accordingly. A minister is no god. He is not a cop. He is a civil servant who has to respect the law to clean the system if that's what he wants to do.Eccentricity and hyperbole takes you nowhere Mr. Yadav.
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 06-20-08 9:25
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What MR Ghimire did was wrong. There are two ways to right this wrong, taking laws into your own hands is definately not one of them. We have the justice department for that. Nobody is above that law not even Mr Yadav. HOW DO YOU EXPECT ORDINARY CITIZEN'S TO OBEY THE LAWS WHEN THE LEADERS THEMSELVES DO NOT FOLLOW THEM ? THE LEADERS SHOULD BE SETTING AN EXAMPLE NOT GOING VIGILANTE. NEXT THING YOU KNOW THE COUNTRY WILL BE IN TOTAL ANARCHY IF THIS TREND CONTINUES.
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Posted on 06-20-08 10:37
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If Ghimire did commit corruption, then his ass should be put in jail for 10 years. You say locking him up in toilet for 1.5hrs was unlawful and unprofessional? Fu*k professionalism in Nepal. Look at the journalists at the Royal meeting! Look at those pakheys who increased the seat of the Parliament to 600! Don't give me shit with professionalism in Nepal. And screw the Court! You think the SC and police in Nepal are not corrupt.? There are some judges that need to be locked up in stinky toilets. I say the one near Ratna Park is a perfect venue. I commend Yadav ( if his claims are correct) for being bold, knowing that everyone would be after his ass for locking up a officer. As the saying goes, "Sojho aaula le ghui aaudaina bhane......" Peace.
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pyaari kt
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Posted on 06-20-08 11:16
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Toilet maa euta civil servant laai lock gareko raamro bhanne eh bidhwaaan kuttaaa haru....timro baau aama pani faschhan yasto murkha terrorist ko fandaaaa maa then only you will realize....saaaalaaa kutttaaaa haru ....do you know the fact??? This guy Ghimire did not agree to give commission to this bastard Yadav because of which he was locked up forcefully in the toilet....Maobaaadi kukur haru le ja mann laagchha tyahi gari raakhekaa chhan....Anarchism ko laagi ready bhaye hunchha aba Nepali janataa....Sarkaar lead garnu bhanda pahile nai yasto chha....think what would they do later....Be prepared to listen some worse news...Chor Maobaaadi haru saaalaaaa...
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Posted on 06-20-08 11:25
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yo Ban Mantri lai pani sudharnu parchha... aafu le chai raktachandan mazzaa le bechera khana hune.... sankahaa... Junglee para le kaam garna khojchha, aafu lai j theek lagyo tei garyo... testo taal le ni hunchha ra? aba ta yo Ban Manchhe jasto Ban Mantri lai sungur ko khorma thundinu parchha.... aislai pani ta sudharunu paryo ni kaso....?????
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pyaari kt
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Posted on 06-20-08 11:51
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Guys lets donate 1 rupee each from sajha users also for this guy's mental treatment....
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Posted on 06-20-08 12:31
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I agree with you fortunefaded. His ass should have been brought to Ratna park. Too much is too much. Every freaking officer is like that....go to any office in f...cking Nepal. No bribe no work. I am glad some initiative is done from Mantri himself.....jasta lai testai dhinda lai nistai.....court and police ko kura garcha...law and order ko kura garcha.......come and see yourself guys....... laaj nai pachaya pachi toilet ma nathune ka thunne?
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Posted on 06-20-08 1:09
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Pyaari_kt
"Toilet
maa euta civil servant laai lock gareko raamro bhanne eh bidhwaaan
kuttaaa haru....timro baau aama pani faschhan yasto murkha terrorist ko
fandaaaa maa" yes, anyone who takes bribe should face, if not the same but similar humiliation. I am not supporting some sort of vigilante movement nor am I condoning Maoists atrocities, but there is rampant corruption in the civil service. Some people say bribe is a necessity...that "they don't pay you enough so you have to get commission." Attitude like this is what led us here today.
Now
you "intellectuals" at sajha sit down in front of your PC, sipping
coffee and iterating the rules of a democratic civilized society and the behavior
of a minister, forgetting the poverty, the hike in prices, the
unemployment, and the life of ordinary citizens who survive in daily wage.
You forget how one corrupt official is draining the economy and sucking a life of another
unemployed citizen. I believe Nepalis(not you folks from ktm who grew up with a silver spoon) want change and Yadav's infamous toilet incident actually gives them hope!
pyariikt, just cause your parents are in civil service, don't sympathize with that corrupt bastard.
"This guy Ghimire did not agree to give commission to this bastard Yadav
because of which he was locked up forcefully in the toilet" Is that your 'analysis' or the fact?
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besha
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Posted on 06-20-08 7:53
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I completely agree with you man. I think pyaari kt has very close relative like brother or dad corrupt. That is why she is so much worried about getting locked in the toilet. Moreover, the one by the ratna park. I would say even if my own son is corrupted I would want him to be locked up in the toilet. Peace
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Posted on 06-20-08 11:36
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Guys Pyarikt is just an agrestic muttonhead.This goofball never makes any sense and puts forth his irrational thoughts....wat he really knows is to curse other using abusive languages.. "Toilet
maa euta civil servant laai lock gareko raamro bhanne eh bidhwaaan
kuttaaa haru....timro baau aama pani faschhan yasto murkha terrorist ko
fandaaaa maa" wat wud u call this statement??his judgement or his fear that his crooked,debauched kins would be locked up.No matter whoever the person,if sb abuses the authority he/she deserves a penalty.
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jakhanlal
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Posted on 06-21-08 12:19
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Pyarikt can you please use appropriate language? Every civilized people can’t use that kind of language I guess (kuttaharu). Did your parents taught ethics to you?
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Posted on 06-21-08 12:55
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Yeo Pyarikt, Today onwards lets keep a distance between u and me,alrite??i just donn like to discuss
with loggerheads like u in sajha..... so rude and use scurrilous
languages,curse for nothin,no reasons.i dont come here in sajha so
that sb curse me and mah family for no reasons just becoz i have sth
different opinions than the mongrels like u.i wonder how people doin
masters,doctors be so stubborn and can't appreciate other
rationale....some day if u ever become prof or sb like that,how will u deal with people?just feels bad and pity on u...........mah 2 cents on the way u were brought up!!
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