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meroDeurali
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Posted on 10-01-06 12:53
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meroDeurali
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:12
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Dear Slakdemic, it does not matter who says. From Lord shiva to Krishna to Buddha to Christ to any other spiritula leaders said nothing new. They all said the same thing because there is only one truth. All eventually have to come to the same point and talk about the same thruth. It really does not matter who said. It does really matter;however, what has been said.
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Slackdemic
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:14
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So, what do YOU say on what I asked?
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TM
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:17
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meroDeurali
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:19
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God is not an opinion or concept or an idea.
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TM
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:22
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All u are telling us is what God is not. Then what is it? Also you still owe us with a convincing explanation for the statement you made earlier starting with your resonses to me. I ain't giving you a hard time. Just that I would like to understand your opinion/take.
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sajhauser
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:29
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meroDeurali, why do you say there is no such thing as good and bad? :) it makes me laugh, seriously...let me do it...hahahahahaha. you didn't respond my statements above about people having schiziod personality disorder.
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meroDeurali
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:31
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if you remove concepts,ideas,belief,opinion from your mind,what is left?
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satanicluju
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:33
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God is a pure imagination of people....thats it... I mean seriously 5 major religion, 16+ different sects and altogether more than 500 gods in this world..how can u not say its not an imagination?
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sajhauser
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:35
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"If you remove concepts,ideas,belief,opinion from your mind,what is left?" YOU'RE A LIFELESS BODY!
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TM
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:39
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I think we are getting nowhere with this thread. Shall we end it right here? BIG PERIOD (.)
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meroDeurali
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:41
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Is Tsunami good or bad? Is Existence good or bad?
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meroDeurali
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:48
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Dear Sajhauser, have you ever tried to live without any concept,belief,ideas and opinions about yourself and your surroundings?
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sajhauser
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Posted on 10-01-06 9:50
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meroDeurali, you're out of your mind!!! you need help!!! bye bye
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Slackdemic
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Posted on 10-01-06 10:01
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I don't know about others, but I have tried to live / lived what you phrased "without any concept,belief,ideas and opinions about yourself and your surroundings." I have done meditation. And, I know it can bring changes in one's life. So, what?
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samir28
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Posted on 10-01-06 10:03
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I believe in God as told in the earliest hindu scriptures of 'Vedas' and 'Upanishads'. Not in the current day concept of 'God'. As per that concept, God is 'Brahman', that is a divine energy, which is neither male nor female, nor has any clearly describable identity. Its a supreme force / energy from which the 'prakriti' (air, water, fire, earth, space) are derived and so are the living beings and non living things. So "God' as a derivation of this energy exists in everything, be it a man, or and animal or a bacteria or a stone.
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sajhauser
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Posted on 10-01-06 10:15
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okay i didn't acutally see your post to me earlier. I have seen a person who has meditated most of his life, yet is cold and full of negative attitudes. after seeing that person destroy lives of people, giving mental torture to others, what do i make out of meditations? no i haven't tried meditating, yet have learnt that people like him exists. and have learnt that it is the attitude that makes a person good or evil!
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meroDeurali
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Posted on 10-01-06 10:20
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Samir jee, is there any way that we can discover ourselves what has been described in Vedas and upanishad instead believing in what somebody else has asked us to do so?
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Slackdemic
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Posted on 10-01-06 10:28
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Sajhauser, My response was to address meroDeurali's " life without any concept,belief,ideas and opinions about yourself and your surroundings." I don't know if your post is directed to me, but I just wanted to comment on what you said. Just because someone has meditated, doesn't mean s/he is enlightened. You, I, or any psycho can "meditate." And, there are so many forms of meditation. Just to let you know, the Tihar jail had customer like inmates, who would be out, but would come back again because they would again do some stupid crime repeatedly. Vipassana Meditation, that was re/discovered by Buddha was conducted there, and those inmates who were among those meditators, and who were so used to getting caught and coming back to the jail, didn't come back again.
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meroDeurali
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Posted on 10-01-06 10:29
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Sajhauser jee, there is no such thing as positive or negative energies. There is only one energy.
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sajhauser
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Posted on 10-01-06 10:57
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slack, my previous post was not for you, but this one is. yes, the meditation was that of vipassena. and the torture i'm talking about is not physical. maybe that person would have given physical torture if he didn't go into vipassena, maybe not. the torture that he gave others was not by killing or stealing. it was his nature that made him think he was the greatest person of all and that all others were stupid, making others do what he wanted them to do, basically, devoiding others from their freedom. He was basically a super egoist, a narcessist. I feel i learned more about human nature by experiencing such a devil-like person, and i don't feel the need to meditate. i am happy the way i am after realizing the fact i was not the one who needed help.
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