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 Future Lies in Democracy - King of Nepal in Time Magazine

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Posted on 03-31-06 8:42 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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There is no doubt that King Gyanendra stands for democracy and peace in our country. But it is difficult to balance a strike between peace and democracy when violence is taking place by armed Maoists with indirect support from the political parties. Let us hope the King's commitment and sincere efforts leads us to a peaceful and prosperous Nepal.

His interview with Time Magazine


TIME: Where is Nepal heading?
Gyanendra: The future of Nepal, yes, lies in constitutional monarchy and multiparty democracy. Economically, it lies in openness and competition, and in joining the WTO [World Trade Organization]. Socially, we are in a difficult phase: some infrastructure, some of the basic things that were gelling the country together, have been trampled. There has been a lot of injury to much of rural Nepal, which needs to be addressed.

TIME: Why did you sack the elected government 16 months ago?
Gyanendra: I did not dismiss the government on Oct 4, 2002, out of my own free will. Are you saying I liked doing what I did, what I had to do? The compulsions of those days made me do what I had to. I was given a written request by the Prime Minister [Sher Bahadur Deuba, who was acting] on the advice of all the parties to invoke the last clause of the constitution [which, as a last resort in a national crisis, allows the King to take "appropriate measures" to safeguard the country]. So I was surprised when the parties accused us of regression. I had become regressive on their advice.

Now, we can go on debating forever whether it was the correct thing to do. I thought it was my constitutional obligation, otherwise the constitution was as good as dead. Don't forget I am the constitution's custodian: as long as it is there, I am going to pull everyone within its ambit. And had I not acted as I did, I think that Nepal would be in a worse situation that it is today.

TIME: What's the way out of the impasse that has developed?
Gyanendra: Even at that time, I asked the parties to come with a consensus government. Recently, I also met all the political leaders and I have asked them to put the nation and people first, to come to me with a government made up of all the parties. That is my roadmap, my agenda. I personally believe there is nothing that cannot be solved by dialogue and there is no issue that cannot be addressed within the ambit of the constitution.

But for that, the government of the day and the political leadership of Nepal must be pro-nation, pro-people. Everyone talks about the impasse between the "triangle" of the Maoists, the political parties and the palace. But this country is not a triangle. They are forgetting the most important component of any nation: the people. Who is going to talk for the people? If the Maoists are not, if the political parties are not, if they don't want to, then shouldn't the King? Someone must.

TIME: I've heard that a lot, that many people wish the parties could just put personal ambition aside, forget the competition to be Prime Minister and the rivalry and the corrupt rewards of office, and plain grow up.
Gyanendra: Well, you said it, not me. But I wish the political leadership would understand this and speak more often about the people rather than issues which are irrelevant, which only concern their own betterment.

You see, I see myself as accountable to the people. If they don't want to be, then I'm sorry. Much of the ill we have suffered is not because of the democratic political system, it's because of the actors in the system. All I'm saying is stop saying 'me.' Say 'us.' Stop saying 'party.' Say 'people.' We do have our own characteristics, culture and value systems in Nepal and democracy must be, if you like, tuned into these. But if the parties start viewing issues from that point of view, I see no problem in the democratic system functioning in Nepal.

TIME: Are you worried about recent student protests demanding a republic?
Gyanendra: Should it concern me? Is that public sentiment? Yes I agree the monarchy in Nepal does conduct itself according to the aspirations and hopes of the people. It reflects those. But my government has advised me that these protests might be only pressure tactics [by political opponents]. And anyway, the government has a job to uphold the law of the land. Does the law allow them to say things like this?

TIME: What do you say to the parties' accusations that you're essentially an autocrat only interested in restoring power to the palace?
Gyanendra: If some people do not understand me, if there is mistrust and a crisis of confidence, let's do something about it. In a democracy, the street might be the place to do something, yes, but there are other ways of solving the issue: quiet diplomacy is also an accepted form of dialogue.

And, they are right, it should not be my role to point the way out of this crisis. I should not have any active responsibilities [in government]. As a constitutional monarch what I should be doing, on any issue that effects the betterment of the people, [is to] either make suggestions or warnings, or simply keep myself informed. And yet on the other hand, the reality is: the people of Nepal want to see their King, they want to hear from him. The days of royalty being seen and not heard are over. We're in the 21st century. It's not that I am taking an active role. I see it as a constructive role. If I step on some people's toes, I'm sorry. But I can assure you this: the monarchy is not going to allow anyone to usurp the fundamental rights of the people, and those who say they represent the people must learn to lead the people, not be led by them and have the courage to have a vision of prosperity for the people and the nation.

TIME: People see you as very different to your late brother, King Birendra.
Gyanendra: Too many people misunderstood my brother too. They took his kindness for weakness and they exploited that. I know many people realize how peace-loving and how development-oriented he was, but I ask them to realize how close we were. His role was very, very constructive too and I think mine is just an extension of that. The circumstances I face are slightly different so our styles are slightly different. But just because I have spelled out what I want to do does not make me any better or any worse.

TIME: What if the parties continue to refuse your demands?
Gyanendra: That means they want to carry on playing musical chairs in government. [Nepal has had 12 governments since the arrival of parliamentary democracy in 1990.] But is that what we really want? And I think they are realizing that I am serious.

TIME: How close is Nepal to becoming, as many have warned, a failed state?
Gyanendra: It's not happening. It's a cliché that you all love. There is a vacuum, yes, a political vacuum. And whatever efforts the security agencies are making will come to little unless this is filled. Previous governments did not have the foresight, the tactfulness to address the issues, the poverty of the common man. Or they addressed in such an inhuman way that those areas developed into the hot spots we have today.

TIME: How important is international military assistance from the US, UK and India in the current conflict?
Gyanendra: I would prefer if you'd asked me, 'Should there be more.' We cannot view terror in hues and colors. It only has one color. Red, the color of danger. The government is grateful that so many countries are supporting us in this; the fact that their help could have been more expeditious is another thing, but no one wants to see a 'one-party proletariat state' in Nepal. And for the US in particular, we all know terror is their main agenda: so we are not surprised, because of the way terrorism is lifting its head in our country, that they are so forthright here.

But I can tell you that I am very proud of the way our security forces are conducting themselves on the minimal [equipment] they have. It's really shoe-string circumstances. But they're coping. That Nepali resilience is there.

TIME: What about the accusations, and documented cases, of human rights abuses by the armed forces?
Gyanendra: Well, I hope you will also mention the documented human rights abuses by the Maoists.

TIME: Yes. Actually, I've documented them myself.
Gyanendra: Then I would say we're learning. I will not say that there have not been remises. But at the same time, action has been taken against the violators. It may not be as quick as many people wanted, but there is a due process of law in these things.

But do you mean to tell me that earlier on, when other so-called governments of the day were in power, there were no human rights abuses? It's all cropping up [as an issue] now. But is it because the security agencies are becoming effective that these questions are being asked, or because they are failing? Is it success that is leading to this? In the case of the army alone, they were not deployed before 2001 and now they are. But which country does not have friendly fire, which does not have accidents? Many people have told me that the Fourth Estate is being unkind to the security agencies.

TIME: What happened on the night of June 1, 2001?
Gyanendra: I wish I knew. I was not here. I can only tell you what I have been told by surviving members of my family. The report that came out of the commission that investigated this clearly indicated who was responsible. I can tell you what happened. But I cannot tell you why. [The conspiracy theories] are nonsense, wild goose chases. If some people do not want to accept this, then it's a sad thing. And the people putting them out there are being cruel. It's offensive.

TIME: But given the unfortunate manner in which you came to throne, have you felt your acceptance by the country, your legitimacy, has been damaged?
Gyanendra: My question is, 'If the Crown Prince had lived, would the kingdom have accepted him, knowing all the facts. [Dipendra, the heir to the throne, lived in a coma for two days and was briefly crowned King before dying.] My whole, prime and first effort when I came to the throne was for the consolidation of the monarchy. From reports that I was hearing, there was a conspiracy to get rid of the institution.

TIME: How traumatized were you, was your family, by the massacre?
Gyanendra: I am a human being, after all. But we all show our grief, happiness and joy in different ways. And I had to conduct myself in a proper manner and tried to do that. There is a human face to every King, but that does not mean he has to flaunt it. And it was not only a tragic personal loss, it was a national loss. We personally lost a benefactor and the nation lost a noble King. It was a black spot on our history that will never be wiped out, but that's the reality of life that we have to face and we have to get on with the future.

TIME: Has it been lonely since?
Gyanendra: It is lonely. I miss my brothers and my sisters. But we have learned to cope. And I don't think it's that bad. What makes you think I don't have friends? What makes you think that because I meet you here I do not have a den? Many people have been there.

TIME: It must be uncomfortable though, living here, in the same palace where so many of your family died.
Gyanendra: I left this palace when I got married 30 years ago and I never thought I would have to occupy it again. It is difficult, but we have done the best we can. After all, it's the occupants that transform a house to a home and that's what we've been trying to do.

TIME: What's it like being a living god?
Gyanendra: I've been waiting for you to ask this. On the question of the living-god thing, let me interpret it this way: we were given the personification of Vishnu and Vishnu is the preserver of all things. And I'm glad that my role—the role I have to play—has been spelled out like that, just as it is in the constitution. But I'm a pragmatic and practical person. I've never said I'm God.

TIME: Do you think the monarchy, and Nepal's continuing feudalism, needs to reform in the 21st century?
Gyanendra: Yes. I do think we have to look at and adapt to society and culture. We need to be in keeping with the times. By that I mean all of Nepal should have the opportunity to progress irrespective of color, caste and creed. This needs to be put into practice.

TIME: Outline what you see in Nepal's future.
Gyanendra: With discipline, dedication and determination, prosperity.

TIME: What keeps you awake at night?
Gyanendra: I work hard enough to get a good night's sleep every night. But you know, there is a saying here: if the people are happy, the King is happy. And my fear is that we might be heading for a ditch if the people, their grievances and their betterment are not thought of. I put myself in their shoes every night. Why are these things not being addressed? If anything keeps my awake, it's that.


- http://www.time.com/time/asia/2004/nepal_king/nepal_intvu_extended.html
 
Posted on 03-31-06 12:58 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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shriyak
are you even reading what i am saying? i have arleady mentioned before that i am not a fan of politicans. i hate them, buti hate the king more.
 
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ifc,
>i am just saying i hate the king more than i hate the politicians. that is all!

I have different preference than yours, I hate the (corrupt) politicians, maobadis the most but like what the king is trying to do. We do not have much choice, do we?

>So 8 ) why doest the king always increase his spending money each year?
I am not a budget expert, I cannot balance my own checking account and you expect me to anwser that??

> so are you jealous of the political parites what ever they made in 10 years...

Are you kidding me?? If the corruption does not bother you I have nothing to say and you are emplying they "earned"?? Pathetic.

shriyak,
I am not here to defend the king or his actions but like what he is trying to do. That's all.
 
Posted on 03-31-06 1:00 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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. and you call your statement logical shriyak?
>> Like I have said before, add all the properties destroyed by the parites you support, and also add the loss due to constant bandhs and also add corruption during the time your parties ruled. Now subtract the expenditure of our King. Understand?<<

look, computing the amount of damage means nothing until you talk about who's getting fu(ked. yes, vandalism and bandhs cause lots of damage - but remember, it hurt the people. and the king's expenses hurt the people as well. so this is a competition between the parties and the king to make the people suffer. how does that exonerate the bad deeds of the king?

or are you saying, we the people, should be screwed by each and element that come into power equally?
 
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what more,
I like your point of view.
8-)
 
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Whatmore, I was just treating a fool just the way a fool should be treated because they do not understand logic. When a parrot starts saying the same thing again and again, you have to teach them some other phrases. When they always keep on parroting the King buys this and that while ignoring every other aspect of politics in Nepal, I was just trying to tell them to have a look at the bigger picture. How else was I supposed to argue with an individual who argues like a parrot?

Anyway , thanks for pointing out my mistake. Of course two wrongs do not make right. But thanks to the persistence of the KIng that there are signs of hope for our country.
 
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shiryak
if you want to discuss politics, learn to be civil. or lets not waste our time and energy in here.
 
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ifc,
>what exactly are you referring to when you mean by "trying"? for how long will he be trying????

Read the interview first.
Do I look like the spokes-person for the king?? LOL. But he did ask for three years, initailly you should remember.
 
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8 c,, still you don't have answer...the way king spends money don't bother you and still say that its because jealousy..dumbass who said that i like politician..i hate politician and king both okay...you are pathetic for not seeing king misusing money..the same thing when politician do is curroption and the same thing when king do is good...
double standard..and hey keep in mind nobody is supporting politicians here..
except some idiot lke you who support what ever king does
 
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8-),
one thing i like here is that you are not adament about it. u appreciate his efforts and i respect that. i however would not surprised if three years turns into three decades, although i am not sure if the king will be able to go on for tooo long with the new understanding between maoists and seven parties. plus india critisizing himm. although he does have US support. i think he alwasy had US support haina, even from the beginning.
i told u before i was optimistic when he first took over in magh. but i failed to see any results k. only if he built one shcool or one hospital with that money, i would be his fan. but the fact remains that he has done absolutely nothing other than tell us about how dedicted he is to democracy....i just don't see that he practises waht he preaches.
 
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Great article...thanks for brining it to our attention. We have heard enough from the parties and maoist, we needed to know the thought process of the person leading the country currently. The underling point I get from king's interview is that, we have had enough with Maoist manipulation and their terrorist acts in the country. Political parties could never come to censes on how to form the government, let alone come to an agreement on dealing with the Maoist. Taking total advantage of that and playing the political parties to work against each other the Maoists only got stronger. As the King pointed out, in these adverse circumstances they the politicians should have looked at people's interest rather than their party's.
 
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He did asked for three years do suck the money from the nation...
 
Posted on 03-31-06 1:25 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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ss74k,
My comment about jealusy was not addressed to you.

I was refering to your stand and quoted you and only those were ment for you. I am glad you have clarified where you stand.

Like I said above I am not here to "defend" the king or his actions but I like his interview.

Take it easy bro!
 
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I can know where you stand...from the way you think ..double standard,,,
and i am not your bro..okay.;.
 
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good one ss74k. i am with u.
 
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lfc123,
>however would not surprised if three years turns into three decades, although i am not sure if the king will be able to go on for tooo long with the new understanding between maoists and seven parties. plus india critisizing himm.

Only time will tell how long will it take for our country to resolve the maobadi problem, even after the insurgy ends all the weapons that came in the country will continue to create problems for a very long time. I can see that.

Indian policies towards Nepal had always been a problem for Nepal and they use Nepals land locked position for their benefit and use politicians as their wild card. Even the top maobadis leaders are in India and roaming freely that tells us volumes, doesn't it?

In the above interview the king has appealed the parties to come to him with a consesus government and he has been sayin that but the parties are only doing anything to come to consensus and they tie their knots with the maobadis. If it was US any ties with Al-Quida would be considered "terrorist" act.

> i told u before i was optimistic when he first took over in magh

I do get that feeling that times and kings efforts are getting in vain than I do see light at the end of the tunnel and I know deep down in my heart that this insurgency will end one day, will have to end one day. Sigh.. I wish it was yesterday..
 
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ss74k,

> I can know where you stand.
Really?? If so you would not have said this..
> ..double standard,,,
If not agreeing with you makes it double standard so be it.
>and i am not your bro..okay.;.
Ok auntie! sorry!
;-)
 
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I bet that everytime someone says f*cking, the king feels a pinch coz it's f*c King.
 
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Very smart, the dude is. I wish he could use his innovations, ideas and wit for the betterment of the nation...

Peace...
 
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if we keep regarding fractions like maobadi and parties as "problems", we will never reach a consensus. they are not problems to be eliminated. they are a big part of our population, our citizens and only by integrating them together, can we reach stablity. as for maoists, i abhor how they do just the opposite of waht they practise. their ideologies sound soo great and what they do in public is soo messsed up. politicians, they with their obsolete ideologies are still addicted to power. and let me not repeat waht i feel a bout the king. if there was a simple solution to this, why would there be such a mess in our country haina? i think we just have to stop bickering at any one side and no matter how much we hate a group, the solution,i think, is to bring them all together in one forum and make them compromise.
 
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Ham jayega,
so is asking, basking, biking, hiking, and so on...
:-)
 



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