BabuRAM Bhattarai has the most uncultured mind; he does not know anything about Marxism. He picked up the smattering of Communism from a third rate Marxist seat like JNU. Intellectually, he has the most primitive mind.
No wonder you idolize a fool like BabuRAM Bhattarai. BabuRam Bhattari is a gun totting imbecille whose terror, brutality and cruelty impresses people like Parmendra.

BabuRAM a man of intellectual prowess, You indeed sort chaff from the wheat.

BABU RAM, a well-read person, nothing could be more Farther from Truth.

You and your foolish republicanism has indeed a long way to go. Your blind zealotry never fails to amaze me.

What a wonderful campaign to serve the descriminated Madhesi Community!!! Stop licking BABURAM's ass.

Comments by Hark_Bahadur from United States on Sunday, March 06, 2005 at 14:57 - IP Logged

BabuRam's fame is based on his topping the exam. I like to tell you about a comment by N. C. Chaudhuri, the late Indian author that people in India set great store by the people who excell in the exam. That is not a measure of creativity. If you read Baburam's writings, they are worse than useless, full of cliche and the shallowest understanding even of the Marxism in which it would not be unfair to expect him to show some depth.

He and PrACHANDES amd MAOISTS are monsters without the milk of the human kindness (Shakesperean vein).

Does it now seem mystifying to you, Mr Bhagat, why I call Baburam an idiot, no matter what he did in some stupid exams?

For the past 10 years they are tormenting Nepal as evil monsters.

GYANENDRA will REMAIN AS A CONSTITTUINAL MONARCH even afterTHIS TEMPEST IS OVER.

ONLY A PEACEFUL MOVEMENT UNDER DEMOCRACY CAN DECIDE WHAT POLITICAL SYSTEM IS BEST FOR NEPAL.

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ighfly

By the way, get real, how much of the country does he rule anyway ? only cities and major towns and that is it, isnt it ?

EVEN BEFORE THE MAOIST TERRORISM, THERE WAS ONLY NOMINAL PRESENCE OF THE GOVERNMENT OF NEPAL IN THE LARGE RURAL AREA. EVEN IF GOVT DOES NOT HAVE THEM UNDER THEIR CONTROL, IT DOES NOT MEAN MUCH STRATEGICALLY.
THE MAOIST CAN INDULGE IN FREE HIDE AND SEEK IN THESE AREA. I ADMIT I HAVE NO CONVINCING STRATEGY TO THWART THEIR TERROR in the rural hilly area.

THE BEST CASE SCENARIO IS TO ELIMINATE THE MAOIST LEADERSHIP BY A MASTER STROKE. SEE THE WHOLE TERRORISM WILL COLLAPSE. THE BEST STRATEGY FOR THE ARMY IS NOT TO COMMIT A STUPID MISTAKE OF SPREADING ITSELF OUT OVER A WIDE TERRAIN BUT TO CHOOSE A HIGH VALUE TARGET.

Aiding Maoist terrorism idirectly are defeatist media and two pfenig intelligentsia, intellectual and media who give up in despair and proclaim that the terrorist network of the Maoist can't be broken. Much as I abhor the inhuman Stalin, he knew how to deal with the defeatists duiring the titanic battle with the Nazi Germany by summarily shooting them. Even Hitler conceded that Stalian was a half beast and half giant. Churchill went one further step and quoted Molotov in his memoirs saying Stalian is uncommonly wise.

I claim that this war aghainst the Maoist monsters can be given a decisive victory by muzzling the defeatist media temporarily. I wish King G. and Nepali politicians had a little passion for history; Maoists would have been routed by now. Even Fujimori had the sense to put GUZMAN IN CAGE.

DOWN WITH THE DEFEATIST NEPALI AND INTERNATIONAL MEDIA WHO TALK OF COMPROMISE WITH THE MAOIST MONSTERs.

THEY SQUEAL LIKE A FRIGHTENED DOG IN CRISIS WHEN ALL THAT WE MUST HAVE IS SUPERIOR WILL TO CRUSH THESE MAOIST THUGS.

Hey, what did your King do? What is he doing now? when we are in the worst of scenarios, your king is busy demanding an increase in his salary, harke dai.

Also, has there been any revolution or war fought without any blood?
I think this poem i found in www.democraticnepal.blogspot.com explains a lot of thigs

Hudaina bihan dui char tara jharera nagaye
Bandaina muluk dui char sahid marera nagaye

Hey, Nepali maobadi. If you really belief in that poem why do not you go to war and perish yourself? Why don't you ask your family to kill themself in the name of so called people's war? You will know the pain of one's demise when it comes to you. Why are you prefer the war. There qre ways to solve the problems by easy way. We want peace and only peace. Nepalese no more have any enaegy and blood to spend for Terrorist's game.

All Nepalese Crooks and their blood puppets must get arrest and put into justice.

True Democracy can not establish until these all Nepalese criminals get capital or long life time punishment.

True Nepalese and hard working Nepalese as well as foreigner who help Nepal must get honor, and corrupted and criminal Nepalese must get serious punishments.

Maoist automatically vanish

nepali maaobaadi and nepal true!!!
brozzz.... highfly ko answe deu ta if deemaag bhanne kei cheeze khopadi ma cha bhane hehehe.e...

highfly's posting: And Baburam is a hypocrate. He took his parents for Mankamana tour when his ideology does not beleive in GOd. His kids are in foreign schools learning the capitalist philosophy when his fighting a communist war. He is bombing the schools, shuting it down when it does affect him personally.

Bottom line: Maoists are terrorists. They are brain washed by so called leaders. Actually these leaders are the actual terrorists. They are playing with the life of millions.

Highfly's posting: o the maoists family can do whatever they want and we Nepalese gotta do what the maoists want? So Baburam respect his parents' beliefs but he does not respect ordinary Nepalese Beliefs. Maoists even burnt down temples. He thinks his children have rights to persue what they want but Nepalese do not even have rights to go to schools and univs.

coffee333: maaobaadi haru ho.. .plzz yee kura haruma timi harule chitta bujhne answer deu na herum.... f**king hell haru lide dippi garna matrai aucha... tark nabhaako fed and puchhar ko guff nagara!!!
hehehehehehe

To establish True Democracy, Human Rights, Freedom...., All Nepalese Crook politicians, Government Officials and their Pupphets must be Killed or put into capital punishment.

There is No other way to establish True Democracy in Nepal.

That is key reason We failed so many time Nepali Democracy.

How many times or how many years do you need Democracy, Freedom and Human Rights in Nepal?

It has been more than 50 years of Nepali Democracy. Is not that enough time for corrupt people like you? Will you give up your corruption and crimes in Nepal?

You screamed to Maoist. O.K. You do not like them. Because you do not want to loose lavish life, corruption and crimes.

You screamed to King. Why? Because he is arresting to your families.

then,

Are you going to cheer up Girija Koirala Chor?
Are you going to cheer up Surya Bahadur Chor?

On the other hand, whom you going to cheer up? or your father or your family?

What is your intension? or You lost..........

People like You gave birth of Maoist.

People like You are a originator of Corruption, Crimes, Girls trafficking, Smuggling and Black market in Nepal.

People like You are the cause of Democracy, Freedom and Human Rights failed in Nepal.

Then,

Again, you need Democracy, Freedom and Human Rights.


Go to Villages of Nepal, and see and understand what have you done since 50 years of democracy. What did we accomplish from 50 years of democracy?

You tell us here...

Hark dude

"...eleminate the maoist leadrship by........."

Are you trying to say that chop off the branches of the tree and the tree will be dead ?

Until there is a political resolve to solve the centuries old deep social, political, economic, cultural and racial exclusion from the mainstream for much of the people in the Nepali society, counteless Baburams and Prachandas will continue to surge from beneath the generations old sufferings.

And another thing is, are you trying to tell everyone that we should expect Gyane to enforce rule of law. Does he have moral ground to enforce the "rule of law" to every Nepali when his own son Paras is a burning example of "outlaw" with three cases of homocide or at least manslaughter. For the same offence in the US he would have been tried in the criminal court in the US with at least with "manslaughter" charges and a possible sentence of 20 years in jail for each offence. Should we belive that "Constitutional Monarchy" means free pass for manslaughter or homocide ?

Your supposed "rule of law" by Gyane holds no water at all. So please dont make me laugh over here.

"...eleminate the maoist leadrship by........."

Are you trying to say that chop off the branches of the tree and the tree will be dead ?

IF THE VICIOUS LEADERSHIP OF THE MAOIST MONSTERS IS ELIMINATED, IT WILL BE LIKE UPROOTING THE TREE.

Until there is a political resolve to solve the centuries old deep social, political, economic, cultural and racial exclusion from the mainstream for much of the people in the Nepali society, counteless Baburams and Prachandas will continue to surge from beneath the generations old sufferings.

SOCIAL INEQUALITY WILL NOT DISAPPEAR EVEN UNDER THE COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP. IT REQUIRES THE RULE OF LAW AND EDUCATION. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE COUNTLESS MILLION WHO WERE BUTCHERED BY THE POLPOT, OSTENSIBLY TO FIGHT AGAINST THE CENTURIES OLD SUFFERING OF THE DISADVANTAGED MAJORITY. COMMUNISM, ESPECIALLY MAOISM HAS NO PANAMACEA.

And another thing is, are you trying to tell everyone that we should expect Gyane to enforce rule of law. Does he have moral ground to enforce the "rule of law" to every Nepali when his own son Paras is a burning example of "outlaw" with three cases of homocide or at least manslaughter. For the same offence in the US he would have been tried in the criminal court in the US with at least with "manslaughter" charges and a possible sentence of 20 years in jail for each offence. Should we belive that "Constitutional Monarchy" means free pass for manslaughter or homocide ?

I CONDONE THE WAYWARDNESS OF PARASE. I WAS INDIGNANT WHEN PARAS WAS RUNNING BERSERK, INSTEAD OF SETTING ROYAL EXAMPLE.

Your supposed "rule of law" by Gyane holds no water at all. So please dont make me laugh over here.

GYANENDRA HAS NO OTHER BEST OPTION THAN TO BE CONSTITUTIONAL MONARCH. OTHERWISE HE RISKS EXPOSING THE MONARCHY TO THE DANGER..

YOU TALK ABOUT THE COURT. WERE MAOISTS GIVEN LICENCE BY THE DEMOCRATIC COURTS TO KILL OPPONENT, BURN HOUSES, DESTROY THE PROPERTY AND TERRORIZE THE NATION WHEN THEY HAD ALL THE PEACEFUL MEANS TO CHANGE THE SOCIETY?

WERE THEY PREVENTED BY GYANENDRA TO PROMOTE REPUBLICAN IDEA BY WINNING THE MAJORITY IN PARLIAMENTARY ELECTION? THEY CHOSE TERROR AND VIOLENCE. IS THAT ABIDING BY THE RULE OF LAW?

IF YOU ARE SO FOND OF USA, DOES US TOLERATE VIOLENT CRIMINALS TO TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY AT GUNPOINT?

Hark bahadur!!!
good analysis.. you poured the reality. good one.

Brasta, Canada ma basi Maobadi atank le samajik pida ra asamanata hataune sapana dekhne. Gayer Uttar Korea ma ghar jam garer basi, maobad ko maja chakhna.

"Well, Gyane might not agree to give up the throne but it is within the possibility to be kicked out of throne with the barrel of the gun." Bharsta

You ignored the fact that for such thing hundreds of thousands of people will lose their lives. It will bring maoism. There gonna be fforeign intervntion. If not then economic embargo. And aslo maoism is a failed philosopphy. I do not have to repeat this again and again.

"By the way, get real, how much of the country does he rule anyway ? only cities and major towns and that is it, isnt it ?" Bharsta
The war is lost when the capital falls.

"I'll support anygroup (or groups) that will bust the Gyane and his army(that is paid by the world's poorest taxpayers) which he uses as if got it as an inherited property from his dad."

Its not about what u think or what I think. Its about what will be the better option in the
current context and in future.


ANd to end, here we are talking about Nepalese future. Gotta think all the alternatives and analyze those. This is not anybodys GRE test or literature class or debate test. We are taliking about Nepal.

Denial is the evil suffered by most of the Nepalese. Gotta learn from the mistakes learnt from the past and avoid such mistakes. I do not know how much these leaders learnt.

I am surprised to see the discussions in favor of maoism. I am repeating this over again,
it is a failed philosophy. IT did not worked in China. It will not work in Nepal. Just think about the consequences.

Highfly for peace in Nepal

O rituji,
I would certainly lend a hand from both my side and my family side if it would amount to a bit of change. Do not give me your high-minded, Republican sounding arguement. Lets talk about baburam and his family. In terms of intellectuality, he will rank 100 times better than 95 percent people making noise on this board. Second, ideologies do not change and "thrid-rated' with the change of institutions. Marxism might not be the best ideology around, but it's good blood in it. Let me notify you all here, Marxism was never put into practice the way Marx and Engels visioned about it.

Secondly, about his family in Canada or UK--where should he put them. Hamas, Chechen Rebels, Southern Sudanese Rebels --all have representation and presence in UK. Similarly, the headquarter, i mean London, is the center of all-around-the-globe Marxist-leninist.

Another point---while viability of marxism is doubtful in our present context, to choose to be ruled by the king is the worst choice. Go home honey. You will feel the fear there and realize it. Illusionary silence and peace is the mirage you are longing for. Reality is different.

Harka ji--To make a point in case here, The option we have left is the rule of democracy by new leader,and supposedly younger leaders. Not the Budhas. Our society has been so deeply rooted in corruption and cronyism that immediate success is now where in the vicinity.

Lastly, War and REvolutions are fought for a greater cause. Ask the israeli cabinet member whose idea of democracy deeply inspired Bush to go after democracy in the middle east. Life and death is a cycle. Those to die for common good die for a just cause.

Highfly,

Marxism did not fail. Those who attempted to put into practice failed. China is not a failed state. It is prospering. It is prospering with a touch of capitalism in it. America prosepered because of the socialist idea juxtaposed with capitalism after the great Depression. Government control is necessary. Free market does not rule itself.
So, it should be evident to you that idelogies morph and modify with change in time and scenario. I would certainly not argue that pure Marxism will survive. But a modified version has chances. Look at our Communist Party. They prefer democracy. That's called change or modification.

It should be kept in mind that emotional appeals and "ti dukha ka din haru" like stories remain outside the arena of policy making and ideology application.

Kathmandu is not Nepal. Go to Karnali. You will see what life is like there. No water, no roads, no communications. those of you guys who grew up using internet and going to private schools won't ever understand the pain of being in paddy field on a hot summer day. Instead of school, they talk about sukul. instead of capital, they talk about tama and pittal. Instead of democracy, they talk about "dumber kc' who promises to feed them.

Mr. nepalimaaobaadi !!! heheheheheehe

a wrong way to correct a mistake is another mistake!!! aba nepal ko aru bhaag ma bikash pugena bhandaima bhayeko aru thaau ko bikas ko aadhaar haru bhatkaunu kati ramro ho????

manche marera hatya ra aatanka failaunu bhanda... timiharule import gareko hatiyaar ko paiso karnali ra testai remote part of nepal jaha bikasa bha chaina.. teskai bikasa ma kharcha gareko bhaye k janthiyo hola??? jhan janta ko biswaas jitna sakinthiyo hola ki??? heheheheeh

feri ali ali garna laageko bikash pani ta timaaru le nai banda gare jasto laacha malai.... aba timro gaau ma kunai constructin bhako cha bhane.. timiharu engineers lai pitera bhagai dine garchau. haat khutta bhaachi dinchau... aba kasari bikash huncha ta???? sab dhonga ho saathi... andho chainau haami... heheehehehehehehe timiharu chahanchau nepali haru andho hosh.... ani bahiro pani... and laato pani.. ani majjale rule garula... tei bhayera school banda gareko ho???? heheheheheh

feri school haru pani timaaru banda garne.. and teacher haru ni timiharu marne... aba desh ko bavisya ka karnadhaar lai sikchha baat bimukh paarera.. kasto bikaash garna khojeko??? hehehehehehehe .. Hyppocratts!!!!! saaalla!!! Chorrr!!!!!

arkako marma ek choti pani empathy garna nasakne stupid thick headed hyppocratt ko jamaat ho maaaobaadi....... khaaobaadi bhanda pani darrlagdo jantu ho maaobaadi

feri security ko kura garcha saala haarammi!!! maaobaadi jindabaad nabhanne manche sabai lai mardai hinnu cha.... ajhaa charko swor herana...... ragat piune kiro!!!

ta ek choti yo muniko linka ma jaa... ramro sanga para.. and tero prachande or baabu raam le kina teacher maareko ho tesko justification pani de na ta... ma jasta hajjarai nepali sunna chahanchan... taile kin testo garish... bajyaa mora!!!

http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openThread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=20324

CHina is not a communist state. IT,s only ruled by a single party. Ya, in the similar way US is not totally capitalist. It do have socialism. And in CHina also poor people are very poor. There is a hugge difference in level of earnings between rich and poor.

Having said this, what maoists are firghting over? They are fighting to bring communism. Communism is not the solution. Comminsim is the failed philosophy. It is not practical to implement the communism.

First of all maoists are not honest. Look at the incidents. It speaks for themselves. Just think about the consequences.

When maoists gonna be in power there gonna be gross human rights violtaion and possible genocide. Polpot in Cambodia is an example. If not foreign interference, then atleast there
gonna be economic embargo. How its gonna work in the land locked country.

Multiparty deomcracy is a good system where people gotta chance to choose the leader. But the current leadership is so inept and corrupt that it failed us all.

I am just waiting and seeing the development in Nepal. ITs good if these corrupt leaders are prosecuted and punished. We need a new leadership. King will have to go back to multi party democracy. Its a matter of time. Before he goes back I want these corrupt be punished.

I say we need a strong framework. We do not have a necessary framework so that the country can run properly.