The Monarchy CREATED the country called Nepal. Without the Shahs, we should be part of India or China, or live as independent kingdoms with our own peoples. I currently support King Gyanendra, but, should his rule expire, we should split Nepal into independent, viable kingdoms with OUR OWN people ruling our own territories. Think of former Yugoslavia.

Madhesh should be given to India along with all the dhotis. No question asked. The likes of Paramendra should be able to sing the Indian national anthem without any fear. Himal part should be given to China along with all the bhotes. You bhotes have right to eat yak and whatever.

And the Pahad is for the Pahadi people. Period.

Hey Brahmana,

I am pretty sure that you are different from we Nepalis in the sense that you have the narrowest mind. I am sorry to say this but this is what I feel. No Nepali can support your idea of disintegrating Nepal - can you find a single Nepali who support your idea ?
Beside this, you are racialist ! Do you think you belong to the Pahad of Nepal? No, I don't ! I think you belong to somewhere in India , not to Nepal ! You don't have a Nepali blood !

Brah"Man" dude

Chinese people had been living under monarchy system (since 221 BC) for more than 2100 years until 1912 under different dynasties. The end of the longest lasting moarchy system in the entire history of any country in the world, it not lead to the fragmentation of China nor the end of Chinese identitiy. The time and circumstances did not see any need or the relevence of monarchy system or the monarchy system itself proved to be a cumbersome burden rather than anything useful for China so the monarchy system was no longer continued.

Well, then why the heck should I assume that end of monarchy system lead to any sort of disaster in Nepal ? Time and again monarchy has proved to be a cumbersome burden and an obsticle to the nation therefore it should be taken out of action and discontinued.
The people who believe that Nepal cannot continue without monarchy are the ones who are least confident about themselves and have no guts to take progressive steps forward.

Well, if people of different ethnic groups want to be a part of Nepal or be part of other countries or remain independent is soley based on their interests and they will decide on that issue on their own anyway.

Bhrasta,
You are unaware of Taiwan, Makao, Hong Kong.
But I do think that China is largely intact. So will Nepal be in future no mtter what. Because the whole world is integrating, with preservation of ntionl values.

TD

Brahman said "Madhesh should be given to India along with all the dhotis"

F**ker, whom are you calling dhoti and who are you to decide how madhesh should be governed.



"Madheses are from Bihar and Uttar Pradesh and Orissa and are blacks. Why would they want to live with the fairer Pahadis and Bhotes who call them dhoti everyday?"

You are a disgusting SOB.

So, this is how our fellow countrymen sees us, people from bihar and UP. Let me make some issues clear here. Terai has always belonged to us, the so called madheshis. During the prehistorical time king Janak used to be the king of Mithila and his capital was Janakpur. During the pre Prithvi Narayan Shah era, the mid-terai region was known as Doya rajya and the capital was Simraungadh. During the rule of notorious king Mahendra, malaria was eradicated and people for pahad started to move to terai for fertile land.

Hey brahman dude, I am pretty sure even your grand parents or your great grand parents migrated to terai as a refugee in search for food and easy life. Or else, may be you are from Damak refugee camp.

Ajjhai chali raa raicha, haha... Who won so far?? :P La la keep it up...
Beware of Thugged-out bro tho... hehe.. He knows "Karate"... shhh..!!

NEPAL IS NEPAL as long as NEPAL IS NEPAL. :D

Sorry for the interrrrrrruption... :D ma gone.

THUGGED out writes: Sure, it's not a very PC thing to say, but ethnic CLEANSING is a must. If we don't want to head this road, breaking up could be a GOOD IDEA.

Dear sir, what u mean by that? Are u urging a genocide against indegenous ppl than u are so wrong.
But if u are saying by observing nepalese society of Darjeeling and Sikkim than i salute u. These two places are the model of future nepali society. Darjeeling and Sikkim are a free play for all caste/ethnic groups due to social dynamism unencumbered by caste strictures. If it can be done in there, than why can't we do in nepal?

MADHISE-------- Its so delicate topic. Its so sorry to know even the faulty and bisased MULUKI AIN is silent about the Madhise. This issue should be resolves as soon as possilbe.

As for breaking of nepal. How about establisment of United States of Nepal or whatever u wanna say. Let their be regional goverment ruling their region just like USA. Everybody will be happy. Let the maobaadi rule their influential area and so for others. Every party wil get chance to show their diplomacy and governance skill in their region.Ppl will be able to see whichever party is doing good they will choose the premier from that party. Elect premier like in usa unlike u have to win majority in the house.
just a thought he he he he he

brahman!!
you are speaking the same language of political parties... like congress see only congress are human.. and only they are nepali.. so does communist see.. and so does maobaadi.....

separation is not the solution.... we should be united.. and the bond is not pahaade.. madhise or bhote or baun chetri... but NEPALI.... open up ur head bro.

goru, bro correction for u.

Newar bigryo bhoj le. Misunderstainding A racial slur against Newar Naar, all jyapus. I thaught u were diversed and should be understanding.

ANyway peace out bro.

i just happen to browse thru the thread and notice thugged out stating comments like,

" Sure, it's not a very PC thing to say, but ethnic CLEANSING is a must. If we don't want to head this road, breaking up could be a GOOD IDEA. "

WOW!, i am just amazed and speechless. How can a well qualified, (i assume you are ) atleast person who is educated good enough to write good, can even think of such tactics? Is there no love for human rights within you? Do you not have values against humanity? I tell you my fellow friend you are worse than these ppl, for just harboring such thoughts, Pranchanda - who is responsible for 10000+ deaths, King who is responsible for RNA's Actions and Abandoning Freedom or Political Parties who is responsible for corruptions and on-going civil war. Now, just imagine and think abt how worse you are, maybe it will help you learn something.

Otherwise, You need to be Re-Educated. GO Back to 1st Grade, than climb up the stairs with knowledge.

Well said confused,

Only war-criminals or lunatics opine that 'ethnic cleansing is a must'. No matter how educated this guy is, it seems he doesn't know the meaning of ethnic cleansing.

Brahman, I didn't mention my brahman friends because i myself am brahman. i have enough brahman friends, don't worry. I wonder how many friends you have!

Thugged out and Bhrastha Neta, good observations.But I am not sure if its very logical to compare our sitaution with that of iraq and russia -- or india, for that matter. An intresting observation that emerges form Thugged Out's post is that all the countries mentioned are big. That may in part help to explain why they are so unstable. Religious and cultural diversity need not be the harbinger to breaking down of a state.But you do have a point.

Neta ji, King's gyanendra's exit, predict some pundits, could be the worst case senerio for today's Nepal. Do you agree? Can the political parties and maoists make a parley on their own now, that they have not been able to do so far? The situation gets even more complex when we bring in the role of India. Whom will they support, then? What about China and US? I would love to have your take on this.

Bumb dumb - You are true to your name. You previously said, "none of my friends are brahmans." Then you claim, "i have enough brahman friends." Help me out here, aren't you lying? Dumb Dumb indeed.

Face it Nepal is a FAILED state with thousand different incompatible races who take pride in that artificial "Nepali" identity, as if it means something. And at the same time they are opposed to Monarchy that CREATED that Nepali identity.

I don't see any "solution" to the current problem. How can you "correct" things that weren't right in the first place? The bhotes claim that only bahuns-chetris are educated. Well, guess what? Bhotes were never educated in the first place. They weren't disinfranchised. Their language has no written script. So education was NEVER PART OF THEIR culture. Why blame the bahuns for keeping them "uneducated"? There are plenty of mongolian groups in freakin Monglia that aren't educated. Do they blame bahuns too? No, they don't care because education was never important to them.

Same with the madheses. Terai was NEVER densly populated. Fringe tribal groups such as Tharis NEVER OWNED land. They hunted rats and ate them. They did not cultivate the land. It was malaria infested swamp that PAHADIS went and cleared and cultivated. Then the dhotis came to settle. Now they are landless peasants and they blame the Pahadis for making them landless? They should have stayed in Bihar if they wanted land. They moved to Terai that was cleared by Pahadis and now want a share of the pie?

Put the history in prespective and NONE of the races in Nepal are "oppressed" by Bahuns or Pahadis. It is just lie and a way to portray themselves as victims to get sympathy.

Ethnic cleansing as in completely mixing up. Promoting, as they say it, "miscegenation". What will be the ethnicity of someone whose parents are of different backgrounds? Catch my drift? It's "ethnic cleansing" because the original groups will slowly be reduced, and probably be wiped out because people have decided to mix up.
I personally believe that homogeneity is the key.
What do you think I am, hitler or something? I don't believe in killing people. WTF? If you read my previous post, I clearly mentioned that mixing up is a good idea.

Thugged out, you need to take that fruitcake glasses out and open your eyes man. There will NEVER be homogenety in Nepal. What do you want Bhotes to mix with Pahadis and the resultant mixing with Madheses to create a grand mongrel race of sterile brain? Do you think the conflict will "end" after that? Then it will be based on how much element A one has more than others. Look at India man.

thugged out, i did read your previous post, and that is why i credited you as a good writer, but nevertheless, what you wrote after that degraged you infront of my eyes. No where, you are now educated in front of my eyes. And still, i am suprised you dont confront your views to be wrong.

and yes, Ethnic Cleansing does not mean completely mixing up, its means completely wiping out..hope you know the difference.

The conflict of Race can never be resolved completly. It is something thats certain to happen. But, it is our responsibility as a human being to create awarness, join hands and promote positive things to try to end such discrimination, instead of arguing on such matter. and rage another useless battle.

Lets divide and rule, its like Paras Shah saying if there were only 50,000 people to rule on it would be so easy.


What a Bahun!!

Brahmann, here are some websites that you might enjoy. :

http://www.vdare.com
http://amren.com
http://stormfront.org
http://www.kkk.com
http://www.davidduke.com
http://www.gnxp.com(alright, this one has more to do with biodiversity. Got some South Asian bloggers there as well)
http://www.michellemalkin.com/

You would fit right in, to tell you the truth.
Also check out some of their viewpoints. We South Asians are already mongrels, according to them.

Confused, ever heard of the term "writer's license"?

Bramhan bro,
Your sick mind is congested with thoughts of the good regime that turned into monstorous tyranny! And remember bhote, pahidi and madhesi are all nepalse. they can never be part of f****** India or China! I guess you need to clean your mind with ganga jal.

Come down to earth bro, stop flying in sky! Its time for democratic republic of Nepal. And time to dump rulers in city and rulers in jungle into trash cans, ultimately to a landfill and give Nepal a fresh start.

Hey Brahman, you like splitting hairs, don't you? I never said 'none' of my friends are Brahmin. I said my 'best friends' are not Brahmin. According to you, we need somebody like Slobodan Milosevic to rule over Nepal. Only then we can lay to rest our age-old grievances. And yes, he needs to be a bahun and engage himself in the bloodiest ethnic clensing the world has seen to rid Nepal of all cast and creeds except bahuns.