What I don't understand is every single Maoist leader are saying that in the post-war era it is not a good practice to reinstigate what had happened earlier. They (including the CA member Devi Khadka and BRB) claim that if we start asking for eye for an eye then we will all be blind. They say if we want to move ahead then we shouldn't scratch the old wounds.
If this is their justification for asking for pardon of Mr. Dhungel then they are contradicting the very justification they are going along with. Shouldn't they have accepted the Supreme court's ruling and moved ahead? They are the ones who scratched the old wound by reviving the case.

Am I confused or are they just trying to confuse us?

    As grotesque as this incidence is, it is true that Dhungel should be duly punished. However, he has served eight years in prison already and he was released. If he is asking for presidential pardon, he should be asking for pardon from the victim's parents as well whose grief is unfathomable.
   That being said, our nation can wage these political battles and continue the stalemate forever or come to a compromise and continue the war on poverty instead. The incident of Nepalese girls continually being gangraped in foreign countries( a 26 year old just being gangraped and left to die outside Nepalese Embassy in Saudi Arab) aggravates me as much as the Ujjan case. These incidents will not stop until our nation wins the war on poverty. Poor Nepalese girls would not have to leave the country in search of jobs if we had a strong economy.
   I think Baburam was set to do a sound job on economy but opposition would not tolerate it since I believe they are better off with dependence on foreign aid than with a robust economy. If we choose to engage in these political battles we as a nation will always rank in the bottom in the world economy and we will have to serve other countries' interest instead of our own. All our rivers, all our peaks will belong to India. My point is: let's put our country first. 
  As concerns personal attacks against Baburam, he is human. Like he said he was compelled to expand the cabinet because of pressure from other parties in the Milijuli Sarkar. Until when are we going to have this kind of Khichadi? The case with Dhungel might be similar. He could have been pressured by other party cadres. How could he negate his party cadre suggestions? He is not a monarch.
  My point is: Let him do his job. His Hello Sarkar programme is novel and effective. Let him come up with creative solutions like this.


Disclaimer: I am not affiliated to any party.

eastsidaz,
It's pretty clear to everyone from your post who you're. So you don't have to restate what your affiliation are.

yes, BRB made some good moves and we praised for that. Does that mean we ignore his mistakes and keep on hailing him even when he goes on murdering or giving pardons to convicted murderers? Are you willing to sacrifice your own relatives for NOTHING? Can you please justify how the pardon of this convicted criminal going to benefit the nation as you claim? It makes me sick to read what you just wrote. You can ignore my post because I prefer not to talk with you. This Dhungel must be prisoned for life.

मेरो उज्जन को परिवार प्रती हार्दिक शाहअनुभ्ती छ, वहाँको दु:ख र पिडा अत्यन्त गहिरो छ । तर घाऊ जती कोत्ययो तेती दुख्छ । सबैले दु:ख र पिडालाई कसरी काम गर्ने भन्दा पनि आफ्नी हित्मा कसरी उपयोग गर्ने मात्रै सोच्दा पीडित झनै पीडित हुन पुग्ने कुरा पनि ख्याल राख्नु पर्छ .

उज्जन लाई मार्नु तेतिबेला माओवादीको ठुलो गल्ती थियो (एस्ता धेरै गल्तिहरु भएका थिये ) , तर त्यो केस गल्ती नै भएपनी राजनीतिक थियो, जातिय बिबाहको कारण्ले त्यो घटना भको कुरा पत्यरिलो छैन, । त्यो कुनै ब्यक्तिको गल्ती भन्दा पनि संगठनको गल्ती थियो
यि सबैको उचित सम्भोदन हुन त देशमा पहिले स्थिर्ता हुनु पर्‍यो नि , देशको कार्यकरी प्रमुख्ले आफ्नो सहयोगएे समुह मन्त्रिमन्दल त छन्न नसक्ने बेलामा कुनै पनि PM भएपनी केही गर्न सक्तैन । तेसैले देशमा अहिलाई द्वन्द कुर बढाउनु भन्दा निकास पहिल खोज्नु पर्ने हो ।

कस्तो दिन आइलागेको रहेछ नेपालमा हगी? अब एउतै मात्र निकास भनेकै हत्यारालाई ससम्मान माफी दिने र मन्त्रि बनाउने रहेछ | अब १४,९९९ लाई माफी दिई सक्यो भने यो पारिवारीक मुद्दाको यो एक हत्यारालाई किन सजाय दिदा निकास नआउने रहेछ? यो राजनीतिक हत्या रे? पहिलो त यो राजनैतिक हत्या हैन भन्ने सर्बोच अदालत ले नै प्रमाणित गरी सकेको छ, अर्को राजनैतिक भन्दैमा नेपालमा जे पनि गर्न पाईनछा?

कस्तो मात्रै अत्याचार हुदै गएको | हत्यारा र हत्याराको मतियार हर्कै ठुलो स्वोर र तर्क | कुनै पनि हत्या कहिले पनि "justified" हुन सक्दैन बुझी राख माओबादी हत्याराहरु हो !

 Nepchai, if you think my statement makes me clear who I am and by that if you are referring me as a wellwisher of Nepal then you are right. Or else you are either mistaken or misguided or you must be an active member of one of the Khaobadi parties. Your usage of word 'must' puts you into the category of extremist who is not willing to compromise at any cost. And your shunning of me from further conversation just confirms your extemist nature. Well this kind of attitude will never let our nation get ahead. We will remain underdeveloped for the next 100 years.
  You misconstrued my claim: I meant - Bringing the whole nation to a halt and digressing the national topic from Economy to Dhungel case as has happened lately is detrimental to our betterment. Could you explain how it will benefit our nation if our government spends the next two years battling Dhungel case? Like I said: As grotesque as the incident was Dhungel should be duly punished. But the case is in a different phase now. The case has already been submitted to the president by the ministerial committee. Now it's upto the President. Whatever the President decides, we people have to live with it. And we have to move on. We as a nation can not afford to get roiled in this kind of political battle anymore.

sala hatiyara ra hatiyaraka matiyar haru..thukka..timiharuko buddhi..

 Nepchai, you say no killing is justified? Was killing of Osama justified? Well the case is different but I found that you are very bent to making generalizations and resorting to namecalling. If you wish to debate in a civilized manner, please refrain from namecalling.

ठिकै छ साथी हो माओबादी हत्यारालाई माफी दिने मात्रै अतिवादी नहुने रहेछा भने |

Eastsidaz,
How it became name calling when you already said you're not affiliated with maoists? I was saying murderers to only those hardliner maoists; unless you're one of them, I didn't mean it for you. How did it also hurt you if you're not affiliated with those murderers?

FYI, I'm not affiliated with any parties. It really made my heart cry to see the mother crying and begging like that. 

Killing of anyone whether it be Osama or anyoneelse is not justified. I am against capital punishment.

BRB made some good moves and if he had not had the biggest team and didn't try to pardon this convicted criminal, he is probably one of the best PM Nepal ever had. But with the recent changes, I tend to believe that all his moves were like any other cheap communist propagandas and he does not honestly care about Nepali people. If I remember correctly, BRB once said in the speech about giving masters and bachelors degrees to maoist cadres for their hardwork for killing innocent nepalese. May be his next move will be that and we again should let him do it for not stilling the development of Nepal because he will start some other good development projects for Nepal.

   Yo satile sarapeko deshma, alikati optimistic banna pani napaine. Kehi chahine, deshlai pragatimulak banaune kura garyo bhane hatyara, maobadi ko sangya diyihalne. Ke garera khalaan Nepalile. Dindinai musalte harule Nepali didibahini ko ijjat lutda pani afno addi nachhodne, ke taalko manchheharu. Nepaliharulai buddi deu hey prabhu.
   Ani arulai hatyara bhanisakepachhi ahile ayera talai bhanekai haina bhanne SaradSingh Bhandari ko bhanja Nepchal lai pani badhai chha. Jaa Nepaliharulai yestai kurama almalyai rakh ani sabbai terai lai tero sashurali India sanga milaide. 
   Ke garne, tyo mathi budhi aamako ko aashu ta hridaya bidarak chha nai. Asti tyo kasle tasethyo ni teacher lai rukhma badhera goli haneko photo. Testo kura dekhda manai jhasanga hunchha. Tara ke garne. Kahilekahi muta mathi dhunga rakhi agadi badhna saknuparchha.

@ dbst shrestha family has repeatedly n clearly stated the only cause for ujjain shrestha death was intercaste marriage. Gharma prem biha garera dosro suwasni bahunn jaat ko bhitrateko aroap ma unko hattya gareko ho. I have followed this story with great deal of attention.

There is no doubt, bal krishna commited the murder.

Supreme court has given the decision for life improsonment.

So ghau kosle yaha kotayeko cha? Pidit ka pariwar le niyah mageko cha? Hamro PM baburam le chai unlai maffi ko sifarish gareko cha. Yo ghau ta niyah diyera niko garnu sattah, ghau ma agho baalney kaam po bhayeko cha??

Baburam ley yo haaatyara ko sifarish garera nepal ko niyah pranali lai middle finger dhekhayeka chann!!!

धन्यबाद है eastsidaz हजुरलाई !

You made it clear to whoever reading this who you are. Sharad singh was punished and should be punished; we should help nepalese in Saudi and we should protect our land. What I don't understand is how the pardon of this convicted criminal is going to get the bumper prize of all these things you mentioned. I pity your frustrations and your weak reasonings. Look at all those brainwashed vocabularies you're using as any typical maoist robot does. 

 I never said Dhungel should be pardoned. I said it's upto the President now so let's not make it a national topic. Let's focus on economic upliftment. 
 Taile ta ho ni arulai hatyara, maobadi ke ke bhanya. Tero bau hola maobadi sala kukur. Ta India ko dalaal ho ra taile Nepalma stability chahannas bhanne malai thaha chha. Nepali chelibeti ko sthiti, uniharuko abasthako talai ke matlab. Tero ta mansion chha hola. Luxury gadi chha hola. Sala awasarbadi chor.

Thanks for showing your true colors and your 'civilized manner' debate.
PEACE.

 Ke garne, to debate with an idiot you have to stoop to his level and beat him with loud voice and namecalling. Or else he will beat you with his experience. kura bujhis ni. 

Ojaswi Rana

Maoist said Dhungel is working as Communist Party Member since 042. I do not agrument agaoinst Victim family, They are victim , suffered too much pain, so right to say in their favor.
But having little knowledge about poiltics, communist leader killed somebody baceaue of intercaste marrige , not good logic. And for that he was hired ? Naive logic ? So, Whatever Dhungel did, his decision was based on 'UTTAULO Krantikari" decision as Maoist incharge"
I am not in favor of impunity but we always have to compromise with power. All Maoist leaders have to face similar problem, Maoist would not let it happen , BRB was member of Maoist party and would you expect he works against his party in this case ? It was enterned long time before this government formation.  country will stagnate again for years if not addressed these case at this momet of concluding peace process. 
I have pity on BRB todays. I think if i were BRB at this time what would i do? I have following option.
1.Maintain clear image - personal image is more important than future of nepal- do whatever right to do in normal condition-resigned form the post within 7 days and take sanyas from politics (but my alternatives are all worst thanb me, i can not leave nation like this)

2. Try to compromise with all Khaobadi and Maobadi, try to best whatever i can taking risk of own personal career hoping that if peace process can conclude n nation become prosporous , my personal life is not important than nation. I have to remain on this post for better option.
3. ?

@ dbst Do yaself a favor. Watch this youtube video again from 2:15 second n tell me why ujjain shrestha was killed?
Why would any ordinary farmer spy against rising power of Maoist?
Do you think, it was okie for Ujjain shrestha to be killed?
Do you think Bal krishna shrestha killed ujjain shrestha or not?
Answer me these question and lets see we can discuss on this issue rationally.

I have a better alternative for you.
3. Why not baburam condemn the murder and accept it as mistake n respect supreme courts decision. Then make an example out of Bal Krishna dhungel n set a system where people are held accountable for their actions. That way lots of people will be able to see him in positive light.

    Ojaswi, it should have been Bal Krishna Dhungel and you said Shrestha.  Now again, your alternative for BRB is to condemn the murder, accept it as a mistake and respect supreme courts decision. Seriously, how likely do you think it is? In my opinion, BRB would rather resign from the premiership( I am not sure if that is what you want) than recant his position. Don't you think he was under pressure from his cohorts to sign this amnesty.
    Well, Supreme court decision should be upheld but it is not unconstitutional to ask amnesty for a person found guilty by the Supreme court. Nepal has legislative branch, administrative and executive branch and each has been given appropriate power and directives on how one should address the other. I just found out that Ujjan was an Oda Adekhsya candidate for Nepali Congress, so political motive can't be completely ignored. Since this case is gathering so much heat, I think that it is not just pursued by the victim's family but by the opposition force as a ploy to derail the government. By this, I am not justifying Dhungel's amnesty but my point is if it is going in a procedural way then let it be. Someone was quoting these murders were to be pardoned as by the signed treaty. Well I am not sure about the treaty but my shoutout is that if there is a way to prevent another Nepal Bandh, let's go that way. If there is a way to prevent another civil war, let's go that way. Do you really want these Maobadis to go back to jungle and wage another war? Can you tell me how many lives will it cost? if there is a next war, I think the total casualty will be ten times that 15000. Do you really wanna take that path?
   I can't understand why we Nepalese are so regressive. We are in the verge of radical change and still we can't abandon our old ways. It's about time we put our nation in front of our emotions. If we get roiled in these kind of events, we will never see a bright future. And guess who will be benefitting from it. The neighbors. Not us.