Guys,lets request ur family members to vote to those candidates and parties who are determined to uproot monarch and establish Republic.No matter which parties they are frm, request ur relatives and frens to votes in favour of Pro-Republic candidates.We don't any leaders who still shakes his/her leg when it comes to decides the fortune of Monarch.........

I have requested my family and my friends to vote any party but not the Maoists..."Terrorists".....Elusive cat, You will stop barking about Maoist once they rape your mother/sister and kill you father....The have done similar treatment to my friend's family and since you are from the urban place, you do not know their terrorism......you are a child dude....who just wanna throw monarchy....I support you throwing monarchy but with Maoists, who are getting all the darbariya in order to get few votes.....This is a cheap mentality......If anyone support them (either from Durbar), they are not Darbariya and if anyone do not support them, they are darbariya......bastards....So, please

VOTE ANYONE..........BUT NOT MAOISTS>>>>>>>

FUG the pro republic candidates. They left the gullible Nepali folks at the mercy of Maoist Tyrants .

WHERE THE FUG WERE THESE REPUBLIC LEADERS WHEN THE NEPALI CITIZENS WERE SUFFERING AT THE HANDS OF MAOISTS ? THEY AIN'T GOT THE BALLS TO FACE THE MAOISTS. THESE ARE THE SAME FUGGERS WHEN LED THE PUBLIC TO BELIEVE THAT NEPALI LIFE WAS GOING TO BE A BETTER AFTER THE LAST JANA ANDOLAN. KHOI TA WHERE THE FUG IS THAT BETTER LIFE ?

regardless of what they are all corrupt anyways, all these fuggers are doing is just looking after themselves. they don't give a fug about Poor Nepali Janata. Just read an article somewhere that net worth of some of these fugging politicians are worth more than Gyaney himself. So who is the fugging Tanasaahi now ?

AUUTA CHOR GAYOO ARKOOO CHOR AYOOO. DON'T TRUST ANY OF THESE SONS OF BITCHES.

Just some quick thoughts.

 

 

Elusivecat-jyu,

 

Republic is a national resolve already. Pro-republic leaders or not, it will be there. So I would emphasize in other criteria (diverse representation, individual and collective competence and so on) than a single pro-republic criterion.

 

 

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Pyari_kt-jyu,

 

If you are wishing for the Maoist to lose the election absolutely, it is already too late.

 

What I am getting from Nepal tells me that a significant fraction of the nationwide votes is going to the Maoists.

 

So the question left is this: what do you say to those who shall be voting for the Maoists ? Stupid ? I don’t think you can.

 

And one remark on your note. Why are you using the word “rape” so liberally and so blatantly ? Can you not use less graphic words like “sexual abuse” ?

 

Then, I think you are FACTUALLY WRONG about your claim regarding Maoist in this particular kind of abuse. Can you produce any report/data to support your claim ? Any particular news, report ?

 

The fact is, for ideological reason (use/abuse of sex for any purpose is too bourgeois for communists), Maoists are less likely to commit sexual abuse than, let’s say, the security forces would. And all the reports I have read so far support this.

 

However, your claim and assumption is quite opposite.

 

Hence my curiosity about your claim.

 

Nepe

   

 

 

Nepe here is an answer to your query. And if you want more proof, listen to BBC Nepali sewa news on April 7th. How Maoist's new slogan in Nepal is, "Hami lai vote nadiye, tauko jhola ma, jiu khola ma".

”For those who believe, an explanation
 is unnecessary.
For  those, who don´t believe, an explanation
is impossible.”
- St. Bernadette of Lourdes

Like "kukur ko puchhar 12 barsa samma dhungro ma haley pani, jasta ko testai," Nepe, you are still a staunch supporter of Maoists, hoina ta?

Nepe ji,

I think Deshbhaktanepali has answered your question quite clearly...I do agree that I can use the term sex abuse rather than saying rape....but I can't do that...I know they have raped a woman in front of the husband, they have amputated a tacher and tied in a tree and many terrorist act...the thing is that I don want to take the name of the people who have been raped...This is more unhuman to take their name in this public sites...but I agree to you and I also have heard that a significant fraction of votes is going for Maoists but still its my ideology and I still request everyone:

DO NOT VOTE MAOISTS SINCE THEY ARE TERRORISTS..............

Thanks Nepe ji...

What I am getting from Nepal tells me that a significant fraction of the nationwide votes is going to the Maoists.

 \LOL
Typical of Maoists.

 

Deshbhakta,

 

My query was about the sexual abuse which Pyari_kt has answered.

 

 

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Pyari_kt-jyu,

 

You are right. It would be inappropriate to write the name of the victims. I was not asking that. I was asking about the specific case that you have heard/read. Where and when did they happen or did you read in any particular report ? That was my question.

 

Based on my own readings (of various reports of HR organizations), sexual abuse is the least used form of abuse by the Maoist. On the other hand, security forces have deliberately used sexual abuse to women as a weapon of war.

 

This is very difficult topic. But I am interested to learn the facts. Kura teeti ho.  

 

 

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Hurray,

 

I am no supporter of any party, not yet.  I am a supporter of a democratic, republic, inclusive, self-confident, optimistic, daring to dream Nepal and I appreciate the contribution made by any party. That’s all.

 

In my judgment, Maoist has made a huge contribution, not necessarily by design though; a lot of positive contribution could be viewed as a by-product, ripple effect, or a tactical product. However, Maoist is yet to become a responsible and credible political party. It’s not that others political parties are good. But they are more credible than how much Maoist party is NOW. That's what I think.

 

So, all in all, Maoist is what I have been calling it, “a mixed bag”.

 

If you are following me, I have described the three political parties as follows;

 

Maoist:   a mixed bag

NC:   an empty bag

UML:   without a bag

 

NC does not have anything other than the empty bag itself to offer to us . However, the bag is a valuable asset of NC. In fact, the credibility of NC (as a political party, not as a good political party, okay) is what that empty bag essentially is.

 

Then the bag-less UML has, ummm.., the “flexibility” to offer to us. It has it’s golden “nine months” and plastic nine years for us to find it some kind of a credible creature.

 

In summary, all parties have both strengths and weaknesses for me/us to consider. So, if you curious about my virtual vote in this election, I am splitting it equally for all three parties, NC, UML and the Maoist.

 

That probably makes me 1/3 supporter of the Maoist.

 

Nepe

I heard this from my dad long time ago. In rural areas (which is more than 70% of nepal), if you give a poor family a 100 Rs note, they will do kind of anything for it. It might sound funny to some of you, but many people in the country side may not even know the meaning of VOTING. and you may ask why? COZ nothing has really changed in their eyes for as long as they've lived, so they dont really care about whom they are voting, why they are voting and what usually happen after you vote(since things are CONSTANT all the time). I am mostly talking about places where you have no roads, no transportation, no electricity (its been like that for 100's of years and just may continue...for another century..) i personally hope not..

NC - party of Very Very Bad Ideas

Moist - haven't had a chance to see how bad they could be....

UML - party of  No Ideas.

So everytime a new law or new program has to be launched by the Parliament of Nepal, this is how the conversation goes inside the parliament.

one NC parliament candidate stands up and says, " YOU KNOW, I HAVE a VERY BAD IDEA".  and then

another UML parliament candidate stands up and says, " I CAN MAKE THE IDEA EVEN SHITTIER".

this is how they pass new programs and ideas in our parliament..

Nepe, the second part of your statement  "In my judgment, Maoist has made a huge contribution, not necessarily by design though; a lot of positive contribution could be viewed as a by-product, ripple effect, or a tactical product," is absolutely right. But let's not give more credit to Maoists than they deserve. Yes their movement brought some awarness, but it was and is the desire of rest of nepalese people for a real change, the zeal that is there now, like we have never seen before. In other words, let's give more credit to those factor that kept "ripple effect" going, when Maoists after giving a shake to the bucket moved to more inhuman and disastrous acts, which are no less than crimes.

One shouldn't use the acts of army personals, to justify Maoists' acts. A crime is a crime. And while today most of the army personals are not in active duty committing crimes, maoists are openly and proudly.

 

 

 

 

Hurray,

 

>But let's not give more credit to Maoists than they deserve.

 

Absolutely.

 

But what you wrote should also mean,

“Let's not give less credit to Maoists than they deserve.”

 

Right ?

 

Now the question is, how to determine how much credit Maoists should get ? Or who is to determine that, to begin with ?

 

That brings us to the election of CA.

 

Needless to say, the voters are going to tell us what they collectively think about the Maoist. And we the voters or non-voters individuals, no matter how much more intelligent we might be than an average voter, must accept and respect that verdict in every sense and purpose. Hoina ta ?

 

So the moment of truth is coming.

 

That said, I agree with you that crime is crime. One’s crime does not justify or clear other’s crime. And I would add that the issue of the human right abuses by Maoist and the state has not been touched yet (both as a popular agenda as well as the agenda of the peace process). We should not be frustrated about that yet. It will be addressed and dealt. Everywhere it is a standard procedure to deal the most difficult issue at last during the peace process. The same is happening with us. So the moment of justice will come.

 

A lot of us, particularly Sajha posters, argue that Maoists must not be allowed in the power not to let them suppress or influence the issue of abuses whenever it is going to be raised.

 

I think on the contrary.

 

I think it will be more helpful to keep the Maoist bound with political and legal obligation of justice than, let’s say, let them roam outside (they might run away and disappear) of power when it come to the process of delivering justice.

 

So, we should not think otherwise when Maoist or whoever must represent the HR abuse of the state comes to share the power.

 

The moment of justice is yet to come and it shall come no matter what.

 

In other countries, passage of 20-30 years since the abuse took place too has not prevented the victims to bring the culprits to justice. Why should we lose the hope ?

 

Nepe

 

The Army still supports the King.............BRING IT ON MAOISTS..........

Lets all see whacchha gonna do......youre not the only ones who can resolve to voilent ways....if you think that you can YOU ARE FREAKIN MISTAKEN......one word from the King and all of Nepal Armed forces will answer to his call and you think the people hasthad enough of your so called maoists and the political leaders............If the election peacefully resolves......No need for the King to step in.....BUT If the maoists resolve in to violence after loosing ......................REMEMBER ENOUGH IS ENOUGH......The NEPAL ARMY WITH THE SUPPORT OF TRUE PATRIOT CITIZENS OF NEPAL WILL MEET YOU MAOIST SUPPORTERS WITH DOUBLE THE FORCE AND SHOW WHAT WE FEEL ABOUT THE MAOISTS........................JAI DESH JAI NARESH............WE STILL BELIEVE IN OUR KING AND THE COUNTRY OUR FOREFATHERS BUILT.

Last two days for mandalays and terrorist maobadis

bark as much as you can

Get ready for your azz kicked by people

Lets see who will protect you from the maoists.......the political leaders???? LOL.....

may be mandalays

because they have nowhere to go, zero seats in CA elections, they will be ready to fight in front line for UML and CONGRESS

LOL

स्याकु सर,

 

तपाईलाई सम्विधानसभाको चुनावप्रणाली बारे ज्ञान छैन जस्तो छ । नत्र माओवादीको एक सिट पनि आउदैन भनेर एकहप्ता पछि नै लाजमान्नु पर्ने गरी झुठो साबित हुन यस्तो दाबी गर्नु हुने थिएन ।

 

“पहिलो हुनेले जित्ने” चुनावमा माओवादीले हारेको ठाउँको मत खेर जान्छ, तर “समानुपातिक” चुनावमा सम्पूर्ण देशभरीको मत जोडिने हो । जम्मा मतसंख्याको 1% मात्र मत ल्याए पनि 3 देखि 4 वटा सम्म सिट जित्न सकिन्छ ।

 

पछिल्लो चुनावमा जाबो राप्रपाले पनि 10% मत ल्याएको थियो ।

 

त्यसैले कुनै पार्टीले एक सिट पनि ल्याउदैन भनेर चुनावप्रणालीबारे अज्ञानता नदेखाउनुहोला ।

जानेको कुरा भनेको हो, जान्ने हुन्छ नभन्नुहोला ।

Nepe 

read my post, if you understand english i was referring to mandalays.

LOL nepe the CA guru- write a book on CA

dont back up terrorists, all those votes these terrorists get will be through force so its equivlent to zero- A BIG ZERO

NOW DONT TRY HARD TO PROVE YOUR CLAIM