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Hushpuppy
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Posted on 11-21-06 10:33
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I think the answer is - they are going to put these new kids in the cantonments instead of real maoists and the real ones will be freely waling around in the neighborhoods... the UN and the rest of the nations should be careful.. This is a war tactic - and a very serious one..don't be fooled by the peace signature!!! Do you object my knowledge?????
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sndy
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Posted on 11-21-06 10:40
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puppy, I agree with you..it is ridiculous recruiting children..there is no excuse for such an action..I'm sure even our loote bhai will agree with me..for once..
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lootekukur
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Posted on 11-21-06 11:30
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hushpuppy, hahahahaha.....i like you when you wear sherlock holmes' hat hehe....:P....calm down, it will take some time to completely stop the after effect. i believe, maoists fought the war for a reason and not for fun. if/when the destination is right next door, why would they need to resort to war tactic? as prachanda said, the peace accord will take a practical form when an unbiased CA occurs. Loote
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Mike Bibby
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Posted on 11-21-06 11:36
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Lootekukur, Timro run sakina lagyo hola bro..Jau ta herera aau
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sndy
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Posted on 11-21-06 11:45
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Loote, how do u justify your fav. Maoists recruiting children..sunauna..
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bidhan40
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Posted on 11-21-06 1:37
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I will always appreciate the way Prachanda finds the time from his busy schedule. He works whole day attending many meetings and at the end of the day he logs in , in the sajha in the name of Lootekukur and justifies all his wrong doings.
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TimroBa
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Posted on 11-21-06 2:12
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साबधान ......
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Tyra
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Posted on 11-21-06 2:22
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hahahahahahahahhahahahhaha...........hilarious!!!!!
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sndy
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Posted on 11-21-06 2:27
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Timroba, that's really funny..made my day..
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lootekukur
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Posted on 11-21-06 3:46
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timro ba, hahahahahahahahahahaha.....that was a nice one!!!! cheers for your creativity!!!! sn di, its easy to point out the negativities. you must come out of prejudice and see what maoists have done in the last 10 years. they have raised valid points which none of the other rulers were able to address. at least they know the essence of the problem of nepal and are fighting to solve them. why do u think, nepal did not emerge out as a democratic country with a fair/just society after so many movements- namely 2007, 2046 BS? if you solely look upon violence and atrocities - abduction, extortion, recruitment of kids etc., they will always look disgusting and condemnable. bigger picture is something different - it's a revolution, and every revolutions tend to exploit human rights to some degree. i am not saying violence is good. BUT it can be justified. when there is an equitable and democratic society and a nation that respects people's basic rights, violence is a curse. but if there is no system as such which protects the rights of normal citizen, violence may become a must !!!!! that's what happened in the last 10 years or so.... hope i clarified! feel free to disagree and retort!!! LooTe
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CaMoFLaGeD
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Posted on 11-21-06 4:09
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Loote ji, they have raised valid points which none of the other rulers were able to address. at least they know the essence of the problem of nepal and are fighting to solve them. Will you please elaborate this? I might be wrong. But besides the issue of Monarchy, I don't think Maoists have done anything better. If we talk about awareness being created amongst the people of Nepal about what is right and What is wrong, the credit should be given to the Media Freedom, which is an achievement of 2046 BS peoples movement. khoi kunni hai, yaso kura khotaleko maatrai.... lekhum lekhum... :-)
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Posted on 11-21-06 4:28
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Education and media sectors are the greatest and important achievements of 2046 Andolan. Unlike media education (not literacy) takes longer time to develop. So, half-educated mass was susceptible to follow maoist's slogans for two reasons. 1. genuine slogans - theoritically (thats what i call it) 2. anarchic freedom when joined in PLA. ok, to the point of this thread, why? because they know that this is the last time they can show their power to threaten, kill, abduct, or rule as a separate government. Theoritically, their power ended yesterday. I believe that once again they will show their barbaric character by disrespecting human rights when they acknowledge (psychologically) the CPA. This will be a shock-effect, for their loss of power.
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sndy
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Posted on 11-21-06 5:05
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Loote, I try not to be prejudiced towards life in general. However, no matter what reason you give to justify your point, the fact remains that they are recruiting children and nothing can actually justify this action. NOTHING with capital N...it's not just about violating human rights..it's about violating children's rights..and children's lives... I agree there is bound to some case of human rights violation during revolution..however, that doesn't mean that you can use children to make your point..NO WAY LOOTE..If you don't agree with me, I'm not doing bhai tika next year..:) so better behave..
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lootekukur
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Posted on 11-21-06 9:06
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camo bro, yes, you are right to some extent. the first and foremost thing maoists have always wanted is a demoratic republic of nepal because they were able to analyze the problem of nepal - the social disparity. for any country to prosper and rise, it needs to have a just society which does NOT discriminate people based on their caste, creed, race or locations. the 'samantis' - suckers - of our society have always used poor, dalit , women and children. we have a system which force a poor to stoop in front of the privileged people. You have to respect people with the likes of parash shah and sharad chandra shah even if you have a Phd in economics or something. king is always respected despite his wrong deeds and ill intentions/motives. how fair is that? this hierarchichal chain of 'samantabad' starts from the palace and king is the head of it. we need to demolish this hierarchy so as to establish a just society and the best point of start to this move is by ousting the king. the demolition will continue to reach to the village level to help the poor and dalits get out of the manipulation from samantis. ============================= Maranchyase, its not that we did not get anything out of 2046 BS movement. of course, we got out of the totalitarian panachayati system and media rights were revived and retained, but the major problem of ours - social disparity was never, never addressed, let alone rectifying the problem. ============================= Sn di, hehe....i agree with you - 100%. No one, No one (with capital N :P) has a right to violate the human rights and more so that of children. but which children are we talking about? let's see- children of the rural village of nepal, right? children who hardly get enough food to satiate their hunger. children who have to work after their home at a tender age, children who have to go to the forest to get woods instead of to the school to study. children who don't get enough sleep to dream about a secured and prosperous future....let's not talk about what goes on with the children of dalits.... where is your human right - children rights didu? who is supposed to inspect to see if no one's right is violated- the system and the rulers? did they give a damn as of today? people like prachanda and baburam started their revolution to fight against this odd of our society. people who were/are used by the society lend their hands and of full support to them in the revolution. even kids came out to help them. the reason being, they want to fight against the evil - their misfortune..... if ONLY this is violation of human rights then be it- let it be violated but they need to see a just nepal with an equitable society where everyone has a share of their basic rights. LooTe
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TM
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Posted on 11-21-06 9:25
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The monarchy has failed us so did the so called Congress, CPN, Ra Pra Praaetc. Now is the time to abolish that deep-seeded cause of misery ie feudalism and nepotism and conduct a fair and free CA and thereby create a model democracy where everyone's basic human rights is assured. After 13,000 nepalis have become martyrs and tens of thousands of lives have become displaced if we go back to where we were during the early years of constitutional monarchy or absolute monarchy (panchayat system), the sacrifices of those lives will go in vain. Along the path to heaven, there could be a lot of difficulties and hardships. But at the end of each passing day, if we notice considerable progress than the day before, that's good enough.
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Posted on 11-21-06 9:31
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Can violence be justified in politics? You guys who keep on asking this question to Maoists, have u ever asked the use of violence by US for war against terror? US believes that using violence to fight against terrorism is justified. Maoists believe that using violence against feudalism is justified
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MailoBhai
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Posted on 11-21-06 10:19
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The name itself is enough to not like them, I mean the Maoists.....Sansar ma hariesakeko maoism aba Nepal re....funny ke......Prachanda ko fight ta paisa ra kursi ko laagi ho.......herdai jaam saathi ho......prachanda le pani jhaat janai halcha ni........jais hos Neta ko kursi moha.....and corruption.........jo aaye pani janata ko the lose-lose situation ho kya....bitthama ke ko kach kach........
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lootekukur
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Posted on 11-21-06 10:29
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MailoBhai, if you go through what prachanda spoke in the summit at new delhi, you will come to know that maoists are here NOT to impose monolithic communism of stalin brand in nepal. they have time and again reiterated that they are here to remain under the umbrella of multiparty democracy. they believe in competitive party theory and so far they have showed full conviction to the multiparty democracy. why so much fuss, if i may ask? LooTe
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MailoBhai
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Posted on 11-21-06 10:38
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Loote Ji: Since when did Maoists start doing what they preach...they preach one thing and do another......what about the current recruitment.....if they are all for peace...why need weapons...?? They talk about limiting national(Nepal) Army to 25000-35000, and claim that they have more than 35000 PLA of their own, and are ccontinuously recruiting....Chodem yaar......Loote le je vaney ni Maobaadi are after Kursi and Money ke.....wait until they get in the govt......nani dekhi lageko baani kasari kshutcha?? Daar, dhamki le sasaan gari ra ko baani, tei ho sir, tei ho.....je vaya ni, euta kura thaha vo...Loote is a maoist......good luck brother.....timro ta dashain aako cha........nepali janta ko chai sadhai daasha !!
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Posted on 11-21-06 10:43
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Like prachanda said in the Leadership summit, violence cannot be justified ideologically. But, it will be justified in certain situation and time. If we cannot comprehend the situation in our country, then we can take example of other countries. More than 600,000 people died during American civil war for abolition of slavery. Most people do say that is justified. Recruitment of children for maoist civil war is not justified. But we cannot/should not make it a deal to oppose all of their action…their action of liberating the suppressed. Who murdered Birendra’s family is yet to be revealed. But even if it was Gyanendra, wouldn’t nepalis have forgiven him if he had actually done something good for the country?
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