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paramendra_rules
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Posted on 10-26-06 12:13
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From thread to thread, most of the comments on this forum are racially abusive to all the madheshis. I have got few questions for all those pahadi racist: 1. Why do pahadi people hate madheshis in general? 2. Why do you guys in this forum hate madheshis? Come on guys grow up, most of you all are living abroad, educated, civilized, you name it. It wouldn't hurt me if some guy from remote area in Nepal who is uneducated, doesn't know the madheshis are part of Nepalese society would be racist to me. But you guys how can you be racist to madheshis, seriously shame on you! I know all of you don't think like that but most of you pahadis do! 3. Why can't you guys see there is a fine line between Indians and madheshis? 4. Why do you guys hate Paramendra? Just because he's fighting for rights of innocent madheshis in Nepal who have been victims of the tyrrants in Nepalese society since ages. Paramendra has got a long way to go, thumbs up to him. 5. Would you want a Madheshland in Nepal? Imagine you have to get visa to go to Janakpur, Mahendranagar or Bhairahawa? Seriously, if you pahadi guys continue to treat madheshis in the same way there would come a day with "Madheshland" in existence. But personally I don't want a Madheshland, I just want a cohesive and progressive society in Nepal where all the ethnic people in Nepal work for common goal, that is nation's development! Just another madheshi! ----Peace--- Jai Nepal
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Kanchha dai
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Posted on 10-26-06 12:21
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Parmendraaaa, where did you come up with all these bull SHlT. I know you are smarter than this dude.
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i_nepali
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Posted on 10-26-06 12:25
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paramendra_rules, I am not really sure who Paramendra is but your nickname gives me an impression that you are also racist. To me everyone is equal, be it kami or damai, madheshi etc
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bhusan
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Posted on 10-26-06 12:28
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I think people know that people living in madhesh are not all indian. I think the confusion sparks from the fact that people in most places in Nepal are used to calling Indians as madhisey. There is a fallacy in that and we should correct it because we wrongly start treating our countrymen as Indians ie madhiseys.
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paramendra_rules
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Posted on 10-26-06 12:30
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Kancchadai! You must be new to this forum if you don't know about him. Just google him dude, he was an active member of Sajha couple of years ago, he just stopped writing on this forum due to some racist pahadis. Anyway, dude, what i have written, it's not crap, it's as true as existence of Nepal and you know it. I haven't gotten my answers yet! Just another madheshi! ---Peace-- Jai Madhesh jai Nepal
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pupiffy
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Posted on 10-26-06 12:33
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paramendra, Are you madhesi or nepali? You will notice these racial tensions as long as you consider yourself madhesi. Once you decide that you are nepali (not madhesi or pahadi) you won't see any racially abusive comments. Dude! no offence but you are being racist yourself. Personally, I don't care if you are madhesi, pahadi or himali as long as you are nepali.
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paramendra_rules
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Posted on 10-26-06 12:41
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Pupiffy, of course I am a Nepali, not less of a Nepali than you! Thanks mate for understanding that. But millions of Nepalis back home and here in Sajha, have never considered the people who are a bit darker than them, who live in madhesh and who are poorer than them as people of Nepal. You know everything dude, more than 50 lakh madheshis are still devoid of citizenship in Nepal. There are millions of issues against madheshis in Nepal. --Peace---
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NaakPore
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Posted on 10-26-06 12:48
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paramendra, don't worry. baburam and prachanda are with u. cheers !!!!
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Kanchha dai
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Posted on 10-26-06 12:59
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Parmendra, Timi 266 haina, Annapurna house ko, Timro sathi Suresh Aakhe haina. Aaba thaha payo hola ni maile timi lai chinchu ki chindina bhanera. No need to explain in detail
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paramendra_rules
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Posted on 10-26-06 1:09
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Kanchhadai! Don't have any idea what you are talking about.
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Kanchha dai
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Posted on 10-26-06 1:12
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It looks like you are NOT Parmendra.
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sajhauser
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Posted on 10-26-06 2:17
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paramendra_rules, I'm sure you wouldn't have brought this up if you didn't feel any unjust in the society. I have sympathy for you and all the people who have been treated as a second class citizen. I think the problem is more of political rather than societal. But I'm not saying that there is no problem in the society. Awareness programs on tv would be more helpful in changing the society...people won't listen or try to understand if you shout out in anger....movies like '15 gatey' was pretty helpful in changing the perception towards different ethnic groups of people, i think.
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Ghopachee
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Posted on 10-26-06 2:56
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Oh Madhise bro, its okay if you are madhise nepali. The Problem I have is its not you Madhises we hate, its the Indians we hate. The bigger problem is how do we differentiate between you guys? and worse of all they speak better nepali than you. so are you getting the point? This issue would not have surfaced in the first place if you could speak Ka, kha of Nepali, those indians we hate speak better nepali than you. Correct me if I am wrong
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Yo Labastaro
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Posted on 10-26-06 3:46
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I was born, raised and completed my college in what a handful of Nepalese call it MADHESH. Now I live overseas and am involved in healthcare field. I happened to born in Bramhan hindu family. What Paramendra rules has mentioned are facts. People living in Madhes especially those with the last name MANDAL, DHOBI, YADAV ETC. have heavely been exploited by those who are centered in Kathmandu mostly or in the SADARMUKAM of cities and towns. It is not only a poitical issue, it is a cultural and religious issue. It is a very big and a complex issue. Kathmandu always ignored MADEHS, alwyas supressed people living in Madhesh, always hid truth from them.Kathmandu never gave Madhesis equal access to the national budget throughoutt the history of independent Nepal. Madhesis were always been called DHOTI AND BHELE and treated as second class citizens. The culture of Kathmandu is 100% responsible for producing maoists because it always ignored poverty, the poor people. It always cut the budget and let the poor people die. Kathmandu added ring road and called it beauty, at the same time it ignored people dying of most preventable diseases in Humal and Jumla.However, the gun will not solve the problem. we have to make people realize the seriousness of problems.
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Posted on 10-26-06 5:09
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Disclaimer: I am do not support discrimination of any form. Parmendra dai, Dont you think selling 'Ghhosana Patra' of a political party 'Sangram Mukti Morcha' to students in Class 4/5, aged 10-11 is an exploitation? Thats what u did, personally. Thats how u are. Stop talking about discrimation when u yourself expoit 'निरिह नावालकहरु' ।
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jung
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Posted on 10-26-06 8:44
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"We don't hate and discriminate MADHESIS but we only hate INDIANS". This is what most of you guys have said. Ok, why the hell should anyone hate INDIANS?? What is the rationale behind hating any particular group and in this case INDIANS?
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ImI
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Posted on 10-26-06 9:14
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Guys, There is no reason to hate Madeshi or Indians.. Hate is big word.. Look at the positive impact India has on Nepal i agree there are negatives to .We are backward not because of Indians because of Nepalese .You should know who i am talking about.. Look at India ..In few years how prosperous they have become and where are we ??? Like Some muslims hate US ..some nepalese hate india ..i say it is pure ignorance..Everyone is selfish and they do for their selfinterest it is your duty to protect your interest. Padmendrarules,..I personally do not hate madeshi and i am with you that madesh is filled with poverty and discrimination.But you need to realize is it is not just phadi people exploiting poor madeshi ..it is Upper class Madeshi expoliting lower and poor class..So , fix direction of eye and attitude towards others. Look at your JTTM part I and II and maoist ,do you really believe that they are fighting for madeshi???If you do then you are the most stupid person. Regarding citizenship..it is very easy to say so many people are not egtting citizenship. so how do we prove that they are nepali not some one who crossed border form bihar?how do we prove that?I agree with proper process and investigation , Madeshi nepali should be given citizenship .They are equal Nepali too.
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JaiHindu
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Posted on 10-26-06 9:24
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INDIANS ARE THE WORST WORMS THIS PLANET HAS EVER SEEN. SECONDLY, I OPPOSE ANYONE WHO IS AGAINST KING, SO DO I HATE PARMENDRA. THERE ARE A LOT OF BETTER MADHESIS. I AM NOT AGAINST THEM.
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bokeshwore
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Posted on 10-26-06 10:23
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Lets Clear this.. Marsya or madhise, dhoti it all means Indian. 2nd: Indian Biharis are the culprit, who gave our Nepali tarai basi Haru a bad name. As here in the USA not all black people are bad, but because of some really stupid and worthless criminals all Black people get less respect. So if you can speak Good Nepai, Kasaile tapaiharu lai hepna sakdaina. Alikati self confidence pani hunu paryo ni yar. Tapaile garya kura ta pura inferiority complex le bhareyeko cha. Kasle adhikar deyena Nepali Tarai basi haru lai..?? Problem is most of the tarai basi haru le kahele pani Nepal lai afno Desh Thanenan. They always had, have and will have social, economical, and spritual closeness with south of the border. Ani jo chor usko thulo sor bhayena ra yaha..??? Border Basi haru Tarkari kinnu pare pani south janchan, sasto mahango matlab chaina, Dimag ma ke cha South ma ramro sasto pahincha. Dashain ayo Kapada kinna kaha jane?? South.. Bhoj bhater cha Grocery kinna kaha jane ...south..(yo change garnu paryo ni) Pahade haru hamro dusman ho bhan thanchan. They dont even wanna communicate well. well I dont wanna say any more at this time. Lets see some more reply on this.
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BinodB
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Posted on 10-27-06 2:08
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AAlu piyaj lasun kunai pani dhotiko kura nasun
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