Dedicated to Nepe -- who wasn't there but that did not stop him for assuming what it must have been.

This is here for the FIRST time ever.

oohi
ashu

This one

Monsieur Nepe, where art thou? Don't you have anything to say to Ashu now? Mum's the word, is it, old chap?

Ashu likes to be the center of attention, it seems!

Caio
RT

Strangelove,

Here was I. Read the bold face.

- http://www.sajha.com/sajha/html/openthread.cfm?forum=2&ThreadID=22724&show=all#150381

Ashu,

So you had taken on the King ?

So why have you been hiding it like a biralo ko aachi all these months refusing to disclose during dozens of my inquiry ?

Were you saving it for an opportune time to embarrass me ?

If you were, what can I say, you got me man. You got me.

And you want a public apology from me, don't you ?

All right. You've got my apology.

But before that, would you care to show, once for all, that my assumption that your presentation was monarchy-friendly was totally wrong by presenting a sentence or two from your show ?

And you are right about the definition of the term "monarchy friendly". Total absence or the presence of a mild criticism that does not hurt the subject significantly would be "friendly".

So, shall we ?

Nepe
P.S. By any chance, was your taking on the King related to "Rolls Royce" that I had suggested to you before the show right here in Sajha, Ashu ?

Why don't people let him accept defeat on this episode in peace. Have to drag him out? Don't you know people can be sore at losing?

Accepting defeat gracefully and getting sore by defeat are different. May be Nepe doesn?t know the first way.
Nepe, this is too much. Your justifications as to why Ashu could still be wrong shows that you have a problem with him in personal level, not on the posts he gets involved in, in sajha.

Hurray,

The "too much" thing was posted not today but several days ago. Click the link and read the posting before you dive straight at the posting like a vulture.

Raybati wrote:

"Ashu likes to be the center of attention, it seems!"


Well, you do the calculation.
The report was published in Kantipur 17 months ago.

Yes, that's right: 17 months ago.

If I really wanted to be the center of attention, I would have posted it then.

So, why now?

I posted it here a few days ago FOR THE FIRST TIME ever as an evidence-driven response to the BLATANTLY false charges that Nepe was hurling at me with ZERO EVIDENCE for sometime on Sajha.

[Sajha visitors know what I am talking about.]

For a long time, I had noticed that Nepe would do anything -- and I mean, anything --
to reduce those who dare question him or disagree with him to caricatures.

This was his way to stifle debates, pounce on the other sides, and narrow the range of viewpoints available on Sajha. You could almost hear him cackle with glee when he was using these communist-like either-black-or-white tactics.

But I lost all respect for Nepe the day I saw on Sajha that this ideologically
charged person would even go on to make public JUDGMENTS about other
people based on events he did NOT attend about which had NO first-hand
knowledge of.

In other words, he would make up evidence, and expect to be taken seriously.
In other words, he would even lie publicly to score a political point.

Last time, on Sajha, I called him 'a goddamned liar' -- the phrase that offended some delicate Sajha sensibilities.

This time, I take the 'goddamned' back, but feel quite comfortable calling him -- based on the evidence, a liar.

I mean, it's one thing to have strong, disagreeable and even heated opinions on Sajha.

But it's something else altogether to publicly lie about other people and, when confronted with counter-evidence, to make a pathetic attempt to wriggle out with
silly excuses, especially when your identity is known.

I mean, what are we?
Stupid?

oohi
ashu

uhi condome kura...

Height of popularity greed: Ashu

An event like a stand-up comedy show (when you are the writer and the performer) does NOT happen in a vacuum.

I remain grateful to many of these people for their encouragement, support and no-holds-barred criticisms (to make the show good).

And so, this is an appropriate time for me to, again, THANK:

a) Manjushree Thapa for suggesting my name as a potential comedian to the folks at Yala Maya Kendra/Dhokai Ma Cafe.

b) S. Subedi, S. Mishra, A Ranjit, S. Sthapit, G Banjara, S Vaidya, Y Kayastha, S. Tamang, N Pokharel and M Dhakhwa and many others for suffering through my
so-called original jokes in so many practice rounds over coffee and meals in
Jan/Feb and March of 2004. :-)

Their laughter or lack of it helped me decide, in advance, which jokes were funny
and which were bad.

c) R Rai for calmly believing that I could pull it off -- despite my, at one time,
wanting to NOT do the show.

d) And, finally, to Comrade Natasha for all the good and the bad times. :-)

- http://guild.sajha.com/guild/read.cfm?guildid=67

oohi
ashu

Ashu,

You missed the last line - it went like this:

e) Oh yes, R/ Lahure for being what it takes to be great fan.

Good innit?

Remember reading your piece some months back, found it hilarious. I regret not being there to see you perfom - I know, I would've peed in my suruwal laughing. Maybe, one of these days. Do keep on writing more.
Greetings from England.

(Oohi) Shubha chintak
R/Lahure (ko relimai fasan nai raamro etc..)

Ashu,

Post Stop: to read - what it takes to be 'a' great fan.

A little typo - am I going dyslexic or what? Would have taken a few too many last night, mind you.

Cheerio.

>This time, I take the 'goddamned' back, but feel quite comfortable
>calling him -- based on the evidence, a liar.

Ashu,

Let me tell the ram-kahani of your evidence to the jury. Let me show your idiocy in calling me a liar.

1. I have not lied. All I did was grilling you, right on your face. Grilling my friend, grilling, not lie. Get your vocabulary right.

Did I say anything about you on your back, in your absence or to anybody else ? When you and I are together- cyberly speaking- face to face, rather horn to horn, talking, okay, grilling, how on earth, would that be a lie ?

You can complain that I grilled too much. Fine. But lie ? How can I lie to you about yourself, particularly when our conversation is not over ?

2. Yes, my grilling question was assumptive in form. So what ? I did not deny you chance to answer, did I ? In fact, I always said, I will be waiting for your proof. And I have not been alone in this wait.

You can complain that I did too much if you like. If you like, you can complain that I harassed you. Fine. But what is goddamnd lie ?

3. Okay, my grilling question was assumptive in form. You were assumed to be monarchy-friendly. So ? Was I assuming a Mother Teresa for a seduction ?

A lover was assumed to be a lover (don't forget during grilling time). Oops, this time he did not sleep with . But did I forget to say sorry. I don't think so.

However, I did not say sorry because you deserved it. What do you deserve it for ?

I said sorry because I had said in order to cajole you that if you say even a single straight word YES or NO, I am going to say sorry. You said YES. I said sorry. That is all. Okay, a little more. I wanted it to be a comfort to you too. But what is this 'pathetic attempt to wriggle out' ? I am not wriggling out if you have matter that you want to discuss with me. Sajha is ever open court.

>when confronted with counter-evidence, to make a pathetic
>attempt to wriggle out with silly excuses, especially when
>your identity is known.

4. with silly excuses ? No, with silly reason. How silly of you to keep it like, as I said, a birala ko aachi, when I am grilling you for past 18 months, yes, since one month before the show right here in Sajha. I gave you best wishes, you thanked me. I gave suggestion of King's luxury cars for a joke, you did not say a word. After the show, I asked you if there was anything for the King, you did not respond. I kept grilling you. Once you said check Kantipur's hard copy. I wanted to listen from you. I kept grilling. And on it went.

This is the story. Happening right here in Sajha. All readers and co-posters of our threads since 18 months ago know it. If you deny any account, San can help verify by letting us search a few old threads (he says he will put Sajha archive back some time, but we ask anyway).

So Ashu, don't yet celebrate a silly's victory. And definitely don't dare to call me a liar.

By your deceitful silence, moreover for this RAREST EXCEPTION of your political identity, you lied. You goddamn liar.

Re losing respect, don't fake, sire. You are too adult to fake. I am too adult not to know. And this is not a stand up for Sajhaites, or is it ?

*** *** ***

Finally, Ashu, although I am not very much into caring about my personal life (I am not an ambitious man), I do care to keep two precious things of my life, honesty and frankness.

I admit that I have harassed you and many like you in Sajha, but it is for pure sense of political activism, not for pleasure or ego. And I have always been proportionate in my reaction. I have done this fully knowing the price- being insulted back by every Dick and Harry on a daily basis. It is my informed decision and I can handle that. I just don't take it. That's how I handle that.

So go ahead and insult me as much as you like.

Call me anything, but don't ever touch my honesty and frankness. You don't have a frigging idea at what price I have saved these two things all my life.

(Note: My English is poor. But I always choose my words carefully and purposefully. And, as I have said elsewhere, I take responsibility to every word I ever said at any time and in any place.)

Nepe,

We can go back and forth, and back and forth.
But that would not change anything.

Our difference remains the same.

Having seen a series of examples (the last of which involved me), it's quite clear that you are someone who -- based on ZERO evidence -- makes sweepingly FALSE conclusions about others in public, even if that means relentlessly caricaturing
other sides to score political points.

That there could be -- for right or wrong reasons -- a whole spectrum of views out there is an alien concept to you.

And that's fine.

Just be aware that there are many people here who can see through all your tricks,
and are not afraid to expose you for who you are: A foaming idealogue for whom democracy, as it is understood in the sense of allowing MULTIPLE viewpoints, is
only a temporary khol.

Now, have a good day in America's most exciting state: New Jersey

oohi
ashu

Now both of you are starting to loose credibility.... You guys are like f#$king Makune and Girija.


1st, Mr. Nepe makes the accusations

2nd Ashu the bubble doesn't want to answer back with proof

3rd, Mr. Nepe grills Ashu

4th Ashu fights back saying Nepe is talking out of his ass

5th Nepe grills Ashu's ass some more

6th Ashu talks more out of his ass

7th more grilling

8th Ashu posts the cut piece

9th Nepe reluctantly apologizes

10th Ashu starts talking out of his ass and starts grilling Nepe

Conclusion, both of you are piece of shits, just like Makune and Girija. I think the Sajha samaj should stand up and grill you both.

My question is why the hell did it take 18 months for you to put the proof Mr. Harvard? And you know it all Mr. Nepe why couldn't you just trust the word of Ashu or did your own research. DUH!!!

N Gorkha wrote:

"My question is why the hell did it take 18 months for you to put the proof"?


******

Very simple.

By temperament, I am NOT someone whose habit is to put up newspaper articles about
himself or newspaper articles written by himself on Sajha for the world to see and
read.

[If I were to adopt that habit, Sajha would be a very boring place!]

Since Nepe hurled the accusations at me time after time, I requested him, after some time, to verify his facts and publish the truth on Sajha.

That was a FAIR request.

I suggested him to read Kantipur of 2 April 2004.
He did not.

I suggested him to get in touch with Guna Raj Luitel at Kantipur.
He did not.

I also suggested him to get in touch with Kunda Dixit.
He did not.

Instead, he repeatedly FAILED to do his due diligence, and, in this public forum, went
on hurling accusations at me . . . convinced that he was right after all.

Surely, as a somewhat known poster with a traceable identity, I could take his bullshit
up to a point in good humour, after which I had to start fighting back.

I mean, what would you have done if you had been in my chappal?
Think about that.

If I don't defend myself here, who will? Especially when I know that there are many people in and out of Nepal reading these postings.

Hence, at last, after having patiently EXHAUSTED all the possibilities that would have allowed Nepe to gradefully backtrack from his virulent accusations, I had to make my move.

And I did that: by posting the report. which effectively exposed Nepe as a liar.

Sure, Nepe being Nepe would fight all this, and would come up with his usual clever tricks to confuse readers.

But what is NOT in confusion is this: That he is a liar.
And it's been proven.

But what is NOT in confusion is this: That he is a liar.
And it's been proven.

So that's that.

Now, Nepe can write gazals and do his song-and-dance routine and try to charm his
way back on Sajha.

And that's fine.

The case is closed.

oohi
ashu

One thing us younger Sajha-bahsis can learn from all this is to never graciously accept an apology.

Ngorkha, that was a great zen-like summary, cutting right through the bullshit. Your points, taken as a whole, suggest a pattern: talking through the ass IS THE POINT, otherwise the evidence--contrary to the self-serving excuses--would have been presented much earlier and the issue quickly resolved. Instead, for over a year and half, the readers were subjected to unending, petty tit-for-tats.

However, one of the upsides of that delay for us readers is that we get to observe someone unintentionally make a horse's ass out of himself by puffing up his chest and self-importantly thanking people, like at Oscar night, but 17 months after the fact! Comic genius, yaar! Wow, we even learn that he is friends with the famous Manjushree! See how it is not in the gentleman's temperament to be self-aggrandizing? No siree, his humility is touching, and also phucking ridiculous.

Case closed? Not likely, because, you see, talking through the ass is the point!

The case is closed.

But for the cool-headed silent majority on Sajha, and for our grandchildren reading this in the year 2060, here's a CliffNotes and super entertaining summary of this saga.

Executive summary:

Nepe --aka Deepak Khadka -- set himself up for this.
Let's not spare any daya/maya and karuna for him.

He can hold on to his republican beliefs.
That's fine.

What is NOT fine is his making FALSE accusations,and his trying to get away with
them. What has happned to me has happened with others in the past, and, if left unchecked, Nepe will drive away other people and other views too.

********

Nepe's FALSEHOODS need to be exposed and slammed.


QUICK DETAILS for those who are still reading this:

A:
On Sajha, Nepe REPEATEDLY accused me of making an ancient stand-up comedy show in Kathmandu "monarchy-friendly".

B:
I said that was not the case.
Besides, Nepe was NOT in Kathmandu nor was he in the audience that night.

C:
But Nepe being Nepe could not rest easy.
He unnecessarily dug up an ANCIENT and FORGOTTEN show for public comments here.
I guess, he had to use something to CARICATURE me to score a political point for no reason.

D
I told him: "Since you have started the accusations, now YOU go dig up the evidence."
To that end, I provided him with some names of legitimate people who he could call and contact.

E:
But for someone who's given to making enthusiastically FALSE accusations against
others, Nepe failed to show any intellectual honesty to dig up the facts for himself.

F:
Instead, he had the GALL to blame me for hiding the evidence when it has been publicly available in Kantipur since April 2004.

G:
When I finally posted the newspaper article, reasonable people must have noticed that Nepe NEVER had any case against me, and that his lies were were obvious.

I:
Nepe is now furious.
Nepe's supporters are even more furious.

My attitiude?
Let's enjoy some verbal firecrackers here, shall we?

J:

Lessons?

It's OK on Sajha to tease one another from time to time, and things are forgiven and forgotten. After all, hey, this is only a cyber-forum.

What is UNACCEPTABLE is to lie about other people and MISLEAD many others about someone else's political beliefs -- as Nepe did in my case with ZERO evidence.

K:

Here's my prediction.
Nepe would post one or two of his gazals, do his song-and-dance routine, and charm
his way back with a few manipulative phrases.

Just sit back, relax and watch.

oohi
ashu