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passinthru
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Posted on 04-21-05 11:40
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One of my frens has gotten into McGill and a couple of american colleges. The amount she has to pay is similar and right now, she is in a dilemma over which college to go to. She emailed me and has asked for a suggestion and since I am in a US liberal arts college, I have not advised her. since I don't know much about McGill. I would appreciate anything you have to say about McGill and Canada compared with US colleges.
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passinthru
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Posted on 04-21-05 10:50
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is there noone willing to help here? 0 replies out of 123 views???
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Posted on 04-21-05 10:55
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म छु, किन चिन्ता गर्या, :) म्याकगिल क्यानडाको १ लम्बर विश्वविद्यालय हो, मलाई त तेत्ति मात्र था'छ है। माफ गर्नु होला -सरु
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Posted on 04-21-05 11:08
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McGill is a very good university..known as the Harvard of Canada.. if your friend is choosing between okay US school and McGill then Canada it is..but if its a known (doesnt have to be a very well known like Yale and Brown...) then I say US colleges..specially if your friend wants to work in the US..its easier when you got your degree from US college.. PS when I chose college, I didnt want to go to McGill cause its too cold there! LOL.. but there are lot of deciding factors and what you are deciding between. As for McGill I have friends who go there..lot of international crowd there so your friend wont feel left out.
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ashu
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Posted on 04-22-05 1:25
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All things being equal, a rule of thumb to apply to yourself (away from the chorus of peer pressure): 15 years from now, if you want to impress ONLY your parents, relatives and a few friends with your choice of university, start obsessing over going to name-brand university now. BUT 15 years from now, if you want impartial STRANGERS to be impressed with the quality (and also the breadth) of your WORK and with your ability to learn/master new things (as the world changes all the more in various directions in unexpected ways), then, start obessing over what and how you will actually learn in ANY university where you are assured of a decent education that challenges your mind. Hope this helps. oohi ashu
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hurray
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Posted on 04-22-05 6:39
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Ashu is right. Name brand universities may be helpful in short-run, like say, to find a job after graduation, but what really matters in long-run is you, your ability and desire to learn about almost everything.
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passinthru
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Posted on 04-22-05 7:30
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Thanks all for the info and the advice. I'm sure she's looking for a match for herself and not some brand-name to tag along with her resume. She seems to have been discouraged by the size of McGill and is probably heading for the US. Peace.
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Posted on 04-22-05 9:08
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Posted on 04-22-05 10:40
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Is someone implying that if someone had a choice between Harvard and lets say MAHARISHI university, you'd go to MAHARISHi so that your quality of work would be better there in the long run????????? PLEASE, gimme a hypocritical break! Ashu, with due respect, are u saying tht your quality of work now is not above par? If you asked principal investigators in their field, to make your quality of work stand out, u'd have to go into top notch school. ok not so muh in undergrad. If you are say in not top thirty, for instance in science, you'd be left out of the cutting edge research loop anyways. so even if u worked your azz all yor life, you might just fall short! Just like sex sells in media, name sells in academia. You can say this and that to feel good about yourself, but bottomline is brand name sells. Ivies will be preferred, not only for jobs and positions, but also for brides/grooms. Passinthru, in all seriousness, if she didn't get into a good US school, i'd go for mcgill. not only for its reputation, because she wouldn't have to live through superficial and hypocritical bullshit everyday just like you see in this forum!
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Posted on 04-22-05 11:13
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If someone had a choice to study in Maharishi University and Harvard? What if you wanted to wake up at 5 in the morning and do yoga before your classes? What if you did not drink alchohol and wanted to be around vegetarians and seeing meat would make you puke while at the same time you wanted to go to school in a quiet location and not in bustling cambridge? I agree the professors at Harvard might be a whole lot better but what if you there was a professor doing research at Maharishi that you were interested in working with? Now I'm trying to say that someone would choose Maharishi over Harvard just because of these reasons but these are factors that might come into considerion when making a decison on which school to attend. Yes, brand name sells and the Harvard brand is the top 5 (?) 10 (?) brand names in the world (?) I agree but why do you need to care about what other people think? I mean if you think just going to a good school will make you successfull then you are wrong. To be successfull in the long run like Ashu had mentioned you need to go a school which challenges you to learn new things and makes you a better person in the long run. I will also say that if most people thought this way the world would be a better place...and people that do take risks in life rather than choose a safe path (I'll go Harvard because a good job and a good future awaits me) rather than I'll go someother university which is more suited to my interests. So it depends what you want to get out of your education.
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Posted on 04-22-05 12:39
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......are u kidding me.....what do u want to get out of your education???? BIG FAT LADY!! of course what else......big bucks i meant :). Or are u gonna be a saint and say u seek satisfaction. I wouldn't go to maharishi university in any case. Cause i think they are related to the pedophiles and con artists of the highest quality :)..wht are their names......hmmm.....satya sai baba n rajnish?
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silent reader
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Posted on 04-22-05 1:13
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Seems like we are poles apart. So ultimately $$$ is what drives you to study? Are you kiddin me? Are you serious? See I just dont think like you and when does trying to be a obtain a good education and learn constantly throughout your life=trying to be a saint? I thought you had to go a different school to be saint :) And btw Maharishi was just an example. Well I certainly hope you went to good brand name school and are making lots of $$$$$.
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hurray
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Posted on 04-22-05 1:35
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Snrup: There are things that money can't buy ( I am sure you've heard this a lot). And not everything in life has a value in monetary terms.
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Posted on 04-22-05 1:43
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When money talks, there are few interruptions - Herbet V. Prochnow
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IndisGuise
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Posted on 04-22-05 1:46
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Money money money MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy Must be Da Moenyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy~~~~~ The Apprentice's theme song. Need I say more? IndisGuise:)
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snurp
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Posted on 04-22-05 2:02
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Silent reader! do you go to/are going to harvard by any chance? Just Curious. Honey, I'd rather stay poles apart from you :). If you love to wake up at the wee hours, and pose as stupid animals, suit yourself. But pleaseeeeeeeeeee! don't give a baloney about learning crap by obtaining education.. how about you try going to TU and KU and do some research, after all brand names don't count do they? I am sure professors there would be willing to take you with full arms. (they are jus examples btw) Hurray, I am sooooooooo sorrrrrrrrrrrrrry, i hurt your FEELINGS! Of course Money is not Everything, ITS THE ONLY THING. man just look @dem skanky gold diggers. ITS THE ONLY THING I tell ya. bling bling!
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Posted on 04-22-05 2:05
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I've noticed that people who don't respect money don't have any - Paul Getty
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IndisGuise
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Posted on 04-22-05 2:32
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Money = Laxmi = God(ess) =Love = Peace = Happiness = Health = Everything = Money. IndisGuise:)
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Posted on 04-22-05 3:22
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Mc what? The only Mc I know is that fast food joint I like going to once in a blue moon..whatchamacalliit McDonald's.
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Posted on 04-22-05 4:49
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passinthru ji - Finance is probably the most important factor when choosing a college. But looks like your friend will not have to dwell on this issue. Good for him/her [I'm assuming it?s her] because this can be heart wrenching. Other factors to consider are, 1) reputation - McGill is a great Canadian university. But when someone mentions McGill in the U.S., the general reaction is, McGill who? One might get a different response in an interview setting - whether for a job, a business school or a graduate school. My guess is that if she wants to pursue graduate studies, going to McGill is probably a good idea - academics know stuff that we mortals usually don't. But if she wants to work in the U.S. it may not be so. That's because in the U.S. you get one year of practical training and that's a great cushion to have right out of college. I am assuming that her choices of U.S. colleges are equally good. 2) size of the college - McGill is a big university. Going to a big college, like everything else in life, has pluses and minuses. I think she has to evaluate what she is comfortable with. Big universities generally provide more options in terms of classes and activities. But she might have to sit through classes with 300+ students and listen to TAs with quirky accents. Or she might have to confront marathon runners from Ethiopia or violin players from China. Basically, she has to feel at ease being a straw in a haystack rather than a big fish in a small pond. 3) location - McGill is in downtown Montreal. There are lots of bars and touristy stuff around. The campus itself is quite beautiful and people are very friendly. The best thing about the city, if you are a college student, is that the legal drinking age is 18 [21 in most states in the U.S.]. That means your friend won?t have to get a fake id. The downside to Montreal, and Quebec in general, is that she?ll have to learn French if she wants to venture into the countryside. If she drives, she has to remember that all the road signs are in French. And the weather, let's not even get there. She won't feel at home unless of course she grew up in Mustang or Solukhumbu. My feeling about going to a reputed college is that it'll give you a head start but whether you become successful or not, however you define it, depends ultimately on you. Choosing the right college is an important decision for your friend but there are many decisions she will have to make after that, and the college she ends up at may not be the determining factor in what she does later in her life. My advise to her is to think but not to sweat about it.
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