The topic of republic can be an acceptable topic for debate. But Nepal's life and death struggle is to inflict mortal blow to the Maoist terror. Anybody what talks about ending the monarchy NOW wants to replace the democracy with the totaliatarianism of the MaOIST.
BEWARE, MAOISTS ARE OUT TO DESTROY NEPAL.

i am all for replublic..without the maobadis..they should surrender and give up arms and all the blue bloods of narayanhiti should be 'sadharan janata' and face the daily life as we do..no more kings and queens..no more people who rule us coz they are born in a certain family.everyone should be equal..

So, How do you crush the backbone of Maoist uprising ? This is a fight which can not be won without the monarchy. Surely you donot want to groan under the rule of the Maoist terrorists. First thing, First. If you want to establish the republican set up without ending the scourge of the Maoist terror, you donot understand the stake. In any case, the constituional monarchy is the best system for Nepal. Our historical compulsion is to eliminate the Maoist red terror. Does King G. Understand this?

More later,
Hark_bahadur

The Maoists didnt spring up from nowhere nor did it grow up overnight.

It took a very long period of political, economic, social and cultural conditions for that "bhuus ko aggo" to reach the top surface and finally set extensive train of fires. The police and the military did a great job of adding fuel to the fire.

In the context of Nepali history, in fact I'm surprised to see that Nepali society didnt see social upheavels like the Maoist war to surface given that the prevelant harsh social, political, ecomonic and cultural structure of Nepali society which were destined to produce social upheaveals. In other countries with similar social political economic and cultural realities it didnt take long such upheaveals to take place.

By the way how would you uproot the monarcy ?

First FIGHT GYANENDRA KO TERROR as our friend Bhrasta Neta said.

You Maoist want the country to bleed through the Maoist terror and you have the audacity to call it a social upheaval. The Maoist uprising has only inflicted the untold suffering on Nepal; at the same time the army of Nepal has also committed excesses.
BUT THEN WHO STARTED THE CYCLE OF VILOENCE?

You follower of Mao see in the terroristic uprising the liberation of society. The rise of new Nepal is only possible through the peaceful social transformation. Any way, can you name a single country in world which has chosen the path of liberation through the Maoist terror and succeeded?

I say, ELIMINATE THE MAOIST LEADERSHIP IN A SINGLE STROKE of THE SWORD. This will be the beginning og the maoist dream of the conquest of NEPAL. Belive ME, WELL WISHERS OF NEPAL,THE MAOIST TERRORISM IS DOOMED TO FAIL IF Only WE Have THE WILL TO FIGHT..

BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE MAOIST DREAM OF TAKEOVER.

- timi gyanendra ko mantri Harka Bahadhur ta hoina?


HARK - OK, I got it now. U like to HARK.

Queen no. 1
I am not Gyanendra's yes man. But at least temporarily I support G. if he is willing to fight the Maoist terror. My loyalty is to Nepal and I also fight for the suffering humanity, as Marx would say.

I would like to oppose saying Terrorist to Maoist. That is educationally, politically and technically wrong.

Here, I am not supporting to neither Maoist nor other Nepalese parties. I am not telling that King is the best Nepalese.

Are Maoist Revolutionaries or Terrorists?

In reality or practical real world:
If anybody has brain and guts but they become victim of social suppressed and desperate by other means for long time, those people definitely stand up and do struggle against abuser people, party or government. That action of struggle is called Revolution and who do revolution is called revolutionaries, but not terrorist or terrorism. However, Corrupted and Abusers always tell terrorist. Because corrupted and abusers think that when they accused as terrorist, they will be protect by other people or nations. That is the key of telling terrorist to Nepalese Maoist Revolutionaries.

Do you really think Maoists are terrorist? Do you have enough knowledge to tell Maoists terrorist?

For example: If anybody becomes social victim for long time, he/she can stand up and will do struggle. He/she has to do some kind of struggle to get out from hell. That can be you, somebody, any Nepalese, or me. Then will you call yourself terrorist or a liberator revolutionary?

Like US troops bombing and kill millions Iraqi for nothing with breaking International Law, but they call themselves liberator for freedom, but whoever stand against them are called terrorist.

Maoists weapon of choice is violence and terrorism. They are bunch of criminals who will one day surpass POLPOT in brutality and cruelity. Sometimes, people take up arms against when all the peaceful avenues are denied.

The 1990 constituion guarantess the right to change Nepal peacefully, although the men drafting constitution were no Jefferson. There is much that needs to be done to change Nepal for it to become a just and human society.
The Maoist terror will only ruin Nepal. Even if you call it revolution, the propelling force behind it is inhuman violence and terror.

If china has to discard Maoism, why do you embrace it? BABURAM AND PRACHANDE ARE FANATICS WHO One day will FALL UNDER GUILLOTINE.

Hark bhadhur dude

American struggle for independence from the British rule from 1756-1783 were far more violent than that of the present Maoist war.

If the same standards as you have mentioned were to apply to George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and bunch of other American revolutionary heroes . They all are terrorists because these guys took arms against the British colonial rulers and greatly spread terror amongst the supporters of British colonial rulers (or loyalists) forcing them to flee the United States. The Patroits as they were known burnt down the homes, barns, cattle and other properties as well as executed large number of loyalists in the course of more than 2 decades of war.

The large number of terrified loyalist men, women and their families fled north (to other British territories still firmly under British rule) after the American Revolution began in late 1750s which of course become to be known as the largest exodus of population ever in the history of North America. This unprecendented exodus of loyalist men, women and their families to north (which continued to remain under the British Colonial rule) which eventually led to the formation of new country that we today know as Canada.

By the way, the killing of Prachanda and Baburam will not halt the Maoist war because the killing of Prachanda, Baburan and bunch of Maoist leaders will not put sudden end to the very wide social, political, economic and cultural disparities and unequalities which are centuries old in the context of Nepali society and new Prachands and new Baburams will continue to rise from the harsh social structures of Nepali society.

Nice, you wrote, "In reality or practical real world:
If anybody has brain and guts but they become victim of social suppressed and desperate by other means for long time, those people definitely stand up and do struggle against abuser people, party or government. That action of struggle is called Revolution and who do revolution is called revolutionaries, but not terrorist or terrorism."
Your definition of revolutionists is right but it does not fit the Maoists at all. Like you said, "[they] stand up and do struggle against abuser people, party or government", we have so far seen that the only people Maoists have risen againts are the same people they claim to be fighting for. They have killed thousands of innocent people, have forcefully drafted young teenagers to use them as their fighter who get killed fighting againts Military. But people like, Girija, Makune, and all other big political leaders and even the King were untouched. So if they are really fighting againts the abusers, why are these people still alive or unpunished whereas thousands of innocents are dead? Why are Maoists feared more than admired? So by your own definition, Maoists are not revolutionist, but terrorists.

gham_pani dude

Axactly the same situation was prevelant in the war of American revolution. American Revolutionaries drafted young teens, killed innocent loyalists and yet couldnt touch the British High command.

A fitting comparison is between Maoist terrorist and Polpot and Shining path, not between American independence WAR and the Maoist terror. How dare you usurp the legacy of American war of independence?
People of American colony born and raised
in a far away country separated by the Atlantic had their own idea about the self government. King George?s policy of taxation produced bitter hostility in the American colony. They were naturally not loyal to the British crown. There were some loyalists who either chose to emigrate to Canada or remained in the US.

What a twisted logic to compare the history of America?s early days in its quest for nationhood to the terror of the Maoist thugs.

How much do you know about the American history? The war between the British and American colonialist was much more chivalrous. The Maoist thugs take delight in inhuman terrorism and brutality.

The Founding Fathers of America?s early days were all civilized men. They were educated, refined unlike the ignorant Fanatics BabuRAM and Prachandra. These BabuRAM and Prachanda are savagae barbarian who can never be at ease in Civilization.

You claim that without BabuRAM and Prachande, the uprising will continue.

If the army of Nepal bayonets these two murderous criminals to slow and painful death (which they deserve), the whole terroristic game plane of the Maoist will collapse in 3 months. See no further than PERU.

You abduct the innocent teenager to fight your dirty war and YOU CALL THAT AMERICAN WAR OF INDEPENDENCE.

(To learn more about American history, See Howard ZINN?S People history of the United States.)

Hark dude


The social and economic context is not very different from the American Revolution. The ones who were born in the British colony of North America were certainly not happy at being totally excluded from the decision making process of their own birth place, in their social and economic fronts while some administrators from far away land (Britain) directed their political ecomonic and social future. When protested, the Patroits were dealt with force by the colonial regime.

"Being taxed without representation" became the strongest reason for the Patriots to go for war with the colonial rule which naturally led to bigger ambition of independence from the colonial rule.

When the Patroits went to war with the colonial regime naturally the Patroits did hate as much as they can towards the men and women who were still loyal to the colonial regime. The largest exodus of human population in the history of North America towards the 13 colonies of Canada itself is a testament to the fear and terror spread by the Patroits amongst Loyalists. The fleeing Loyalists wer so large in number that a seperate province had to be created in the upper Great Lakes region of Canada which after 1791 is known as Ontario.

French language and the French-Canadians were no more the domanitaing people in Canadian colonies after the end of American revolution because the incomming refugees from the south of the border simply outnumbered the long settled French population in Canada. Since then English laws and English language became dominating factor in Canada which led to near seperation of French Canada from the rest of Canada 211 years later in 1995.

Well, it might it a legacy of war of independence for the Patroits but at the same time it was a legacy of terror, fear and uncertainity for the Loyalists who had no choice but to flee to Canada between 1756-1784.

Founding fathers of the United State were learned men yet they did not hesitate to use every sort of brutal tactics to win the war of independence. You should watch "Canada-A People's History" to see the other side of the story which is 17 episode 37 hour documentary produced by government owned CBC (Candian Broadcasting Corporation). I would suggest you watch parts 4 and 5 which covers that peroid in the timeline.

These guys were at war and you are telling me that the war between the loyalists and Patroits was chivalrous....ha ha ha

By the way, do you think average Maoist fighters and the local commanders on the ground gives any crap to Prachanda and Baburam's words. They used to care but now they no longer care what Bauram and Prchanda has to say because do you think Baburam and Prachanda know more than average Maoist fighters and their local commandrs about the exact realities in the battlefields. Local and regional Maoist commanders run war on their terms not on Baburam's or Prachanda's terms.

The Maoist have replaced leaders at different level of command so many times in the past after their capture or death. They can well replace Prachanda and Baburam as well. After all the job of Prachanda and Baburam has now more or less limited to "spokesperson" and "coordinator" only.

By the way, the doctrine of Maoist war in the Nepali context was unveiled not by Baburam or Prachada, it was rather unveiled by Mohan Vaidya (A.k.a Kiran) whom is currently in Indian custody for more than a year. Did that make any difference ?

Bhrasta Netaa and nice,

Again, you guys exhibit a trait that is prevalent among Nepali folks living abroad - many seem to be under the impression that the maoists are just a bunch of "oppressed people" fighting for thier rights. Geez... 'HELLO!!' which planet do you guys live in?
You guys are utterly clueless!!! Your posts reek of sheer ignorance.

'Ruthless terrorists' does not even come close to describing them. Talibans look pretty tame when compared to these terrorist thugs. Tell you guys what, why don't you come on over and live here for a year, preferably in districts hit hard by Maoist insurgency. I DARE YOU. You guys would be shitting bricks in your pants in horror every minute every hour of the day.

If there is an 'oppressed class', it's the common folks and people from the lower socio-economic strata who are suffering the most from Maoists atrocities. These terrorists have made our life a living hell. Many schools across several districts have been indiscriminately bombed; students have been prevented from attending schools WHY????????; students sometimes in hundreds have been abducted to induct them into thier ranks; public amenities and infastuctures like hydro-power plants, telephone towers, hospitals are been destroyed(for God's sake, we are among the poorest country in the world, our govt. aint got no money to build them); people are being murdered for failing to provide them donations; arms and limbs of drivers who ply their vehicles on the roads are being cut off and put on display to warn others; passengers are being burnt alive for defying bandhs; people are being driven out of thier homes for no reason whatsoever; etc etc..I could be here all day if I were to keep going on about Maoists atrocities.
SLC is only a month away but thosands of schools across the country remain closed, what if you were one of the students? Our agony and pain is excruciating to say the least.

To: gham-pani

I cannot guarantee about Maoist Socialist because I am not one of them or I am not their supreme leader, too. I am just doing Political Analysis of their ideology and activities.

Yes, we hear lots of innocent people are killed by RNA and Maoist. We know that Nepalese media is very poor and cannot trust and depend on it very much. It is very difficult to say that How much or What percent are accurate in Nepalese Media? Sometimes, it is very hard to differentiate with local culprits, RNA and Maoist. Sometimes one party fake to another parties. It is just like wild-wild south east Asia.

I think nobody wants fighting, killing and social disturbance of lives without strong reasons. Because own action hurts, own self. It is respectable and understandable.

However, let?s think for a moment.

Who want to die for nothing? On the other hand, Who wants to die without very good reasons? Do you think Maoist wants to die for nothing, or for good causes?

Beside that, Do you think that Maoist kill innocent people, for What? From my knowledge, I do not see any benefit to Maoist by killing innocent people. I think that they only kill people those who became their enemies or who betrayed to them. That could be practically and technically correct or believable.

Do you think that you will fight or kill someone, who did not hurt you? You will only run to escape if you do not have a gut to take action against perpetrator. If somebody like you or love you, will you pull trigger and shoot him/her? I do not think so.

I think that if anybody punches anyone in the street for nothing when only he or she became psycho, drunk or crazy. Is not it? Are you agree?

Therefore, I believe that Maoist really do not kill innocent people on the behalf of their true acknowledge. Because killing innocent people are straight against their ideology or principle, and that is not they die for. Therefore, that must be some kind of propaganda of Nepalese Media, or in Nepal. However, we know that definitely there must be possible to happen like human errors or human mistakes. On the other hand, some Maoist crooks were existed inside Maoist. It could be happen. Some reason, you defiantly different between your own brother and sister. It is universal truth.

I do not think terrorists want to die for the better future of Nepal and Nepalese. That is not either reality nor true.

Telling Terrorist to revolutionaries is old time escape goat technique of politics which Nepalese crooks try to implemented, and their filthy hope of protection and support from other.

Maybe, we think socialism is out dated for today, but Nepalese Maoist believe that they can do better than other Nepalese crooks, and they told that they will show good example to the world - how Nepal should be developed.

One thing, I would like to express truly that a real socialism do not seems to have Good Insurance of quality and happy life. On the other hand, all Nepalese democratic parties are certified/registered of 50 years experienced criminals. They already enough ruined our life.

Our choice is that either we need to take rotten apple or baby apple. We have only these apples as a food in desert. Both apple are bad for health.

Which one will you choose?

Mr. BHrasta Neta,
Don't try to pass off as a knowledgeable person of history. What do you know about history, the American history or world history? I guess, very little.
I think it is beneath me to confer the dignity on the Maoist barbarians by discussing with them on equal terms.

What have the Maoists done in Nepal? Except kill and terrorize people who defy their obscurantist thinking. Maoism has no place in modern world. Don't try to compare them to the American revolutionaries, these Maoist barbarians.

Given a peaceful way to voice their grievances, the American founding fathers would never have taken up the arms against the British crown. They were gentleman, while Maoist thugs are barbarians out to exalt themselves by spilling the blood of Nepali citizen.

The stupidity of the government and their petty quarrels made it possible for the pillaging bands of the Maoist savage to grow mere nuisance to one of terroristic force capable of paralyzing the rural Nepal.

Only stupid unthinking idiot like you can find in the inhuman violence of the Maoist monster the liberation of Nepali society.


Let King show a boldness to crush the Maoist terror. That should start from the top, by hunting and eliminating the Maoist leadership. These Maoists monsters, BabuRAM AND PRACHANDRA must be exterminated. Let them find no sanctuary either in Nepal or India.

Hark dude

You are assuming me as some ignorant person about the American and world history as if you know me really well in person. That is a really funny thing to read..ha ha

".............what have the Maoists done in Nepal ? Except to kill and terrorize people who defy their obstructionist thinking............"

Well, the American revolutionaries did exact the same thing of killing and terrorizing people who were loyal to the colonial regime. Of course the loyalists defied the revolutionary ideas of Patriots therefore the loyalists met their fate. They were left with no choice but be forced to flee and take refuge in Canadian colonies of British empire. The estimated number of 55 thousand (55,000) people to flee American colonies to take refuge in Canada. The figure is very large for that time period in history.

So you totally lack moral ground to glorify the American revolutionaries as "gentlemen" while at the same time label the Maoists as "terrorists" for the axact same acts of killings and terror. In the eyes of colonial regime the American revolutionaries were also terrorists if you apply the same threshold of proof of acts. Why he heck should I see it differently over the American revolutionaries from the Maoists ?

"...given a peaceful way to voice their grievence, the American founding father would never have taken arms........"

Well, the American founding fathers did have peaceful means. 0' Well, there was a simple solution, pay the taxes levied by the colonial regime and avoid the fight.
If they were not interested in paying taxes as levied by the colonial regime but rather interested to to take the colonial regime out of American colonies well, Mahatma Gandhi busted the same colonial regime out of India without taking arms or without the battles like Battle of Lexington, Battle of Bunker Hill, Battle of Saratoga and about 3 dozen more battles.

Well, then I dont see American revolationaries did any different than the Maoist for fighting all out war. After all , the American revolutionaries had also dipped themselves in blood in fight against the colonial regime then why the heck do I see it differently from the Maoists ?

Just like the Maoists, the American revolutionaries also paralized the lower half of British colony in North America and created a great nuisence for the colonial regime after the major battles began to errupt in various parts in American colonies mainly after 1775. In that sense the American revolutionaries were terrorists in the eyes of colonial regime.

The fascinating similarity is that the American founding fathers and the founders of Maoists both believed and acted on the idea that "Power comes out of the barrel of a gun."

It is really hard to tell who is stupid and who is not unless you see the same type of inhumane violence committed by two different groups in two different time period in history and reach a totally different verdicts for those two differnt groups for the same type of acts.

By the way, the Nepali conflict is far more complex than the American War of Independence because of complex social, political, economic, cultural and racial and geographical components attached to the conflict. One thing I must remind you that even if the Maoist have had not started the war some other group would have had definately started the conflict anyway. The only credit that the Maoist got is that they became the first group to do so.

Gyane or his army does not have the mind to understand that complexity nor he has any solution beside deploying his army. He can scratch out the scar but doesnt have any brains nor the willingness to look deep beneath. And the war goes on.

Chao