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Posted on 05-28-18 2:01 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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यता आको ८ वर्ष भयो..आउदा लक्का जवान थिए, ऐले हल्का बुडो भाको अनुभव आफै गर्दै छु, हास्दा आखा को डिल मा सानो सानो चौरी देखिन थाले..था छैन अमेरिका नाआको भए खाडी तिर हुन्थे कि कोरिया तिर..वा नेपाल को ३० ३५ हजार को सरकारी जागिर मा रमाउदै हुन्थे होला...एकदम नै सानो परिबेस बाट आको यता adujust गर्न सारै गारो भयो सुरुका दिन..जसो तसो आफुलाई सम्हाल्दै गए..सुरु सुरु मा साथी हरु ले ग्रीन कार्ड को लागि गरेको संघर्स देखेर दिक्क लाग्थ्यो.. आफु लै नि कैले पदाई सकु अनि ग्रीन कार्ड लिएर फमिली लाई यता बोलाऊ हुन्थियो..कुरो बुज्दै जादा मेरो अरु को जस्तो सजिलो रैन रहेछ ग्रीन कार्ड लिन...६ -10 वर्ष लाग्ने रैचे मेरो..( government bonding ) ले गर्दा...तेती बेला gc पाए संसार नै जित्छु जस्तो लग्थियो ऐले अब घर को दैलो मै दिन औचु भन्दा नि दैलो सम्म जाने जागर छैन ( सबै कुरा उमेर रहेछ )
अब उमेर ३०+ भाको नि २ वर्ष भयो...सन्तान जन्माउने मनोबैज्ञानिक दबाब छ..यता सन्तान जन्मौ को उतै अलि दोधार मै छु..मेरो आफ्नो सोच चै उतै गएर सन्तान जन्माएर उतै हुर्काउने छ...तर कति चै मलाई मुर्ख नि भन्छ..हुन नि हो कति नेपाल का नाम चलेका कलाकार सन्तान जन्मौना को लागि कति संघर्स गरेर यता औछन( नेपाल मा भबिस्य छैन रे) ..मलाई चै यहाँ बच्चाहरु को भबिस्य नहोला जस्तो लाग्छ...यहाँ का मान्छे मान्छे कम रोबेर्ट बढी लाग्छ...सोझो हिसाब ले सोच्दा मलाई यहाँ खासै बस्न मन छैन श्रीमती को नि लगभग तेइ चाहना छ..तर कैले कै नेपाल मा गएर ~बाबा जी का ठुल्लु ~ हुन्छु कि जस्तो लाग्छ...यहाँ को जिन्दगि राम्रै छ..राम्रो जिन्दिगी बाचेर नि वर्ष को १ लाख dollar बचत हुन्छ.. यहाको $$$ कै भर मा नेपाल मा कति आफन्त को भरथेग गरेको छु..kathmanu मा जग्गा जोडेको छु.. जसको मूल्य लगभग ३ करोर को हरिहरि छ..एउटा suitcase मा गुन्द्रुग बोकेर आएको म ७ ८ वर्ष म लगभग ७ ८ करोड को सम्पति जोडेको छु... मेरो यहाँ सम्पति को नाम म ४ ५ हजार पर्ने गाडी मात्र छ कामको सबै नेपाल मै लगानी गेरको छु...

सुरु देखि नै काम गर्न अनि तलब मा चल्ने बानी पर्यो...नेपाल मा गएर केहि व्यापार गरौ भन्छु ..तातो भुत्लो केहि औदैना.. हुन् त मेरो ज्ञान र शिप बेच्दा नि नेपाल मा मासिक एक लाख जति औचा कि जस्तो लाग्छ....धुवा धुलो प्रदुषण ..बेरोजगारी सबै छ तर नि यो कुनै चिज ले रोक्न सकेन...८ वर्ष मा कैले अमेरिका को सपना देखिन..सपना नि नेपाल कै देखते मा राती...म एक मैना लाई नेपाल जादा ३ मैना सम्म बसेको उदाहरण छ..

मैले के गर्दा ठिक होला?? अरु साथी लाई नि येस्तै हुन्छ कि म फरक जन्तु भाको हो ?? यो मनस्थिति नजिक भाका साथी होरु ले आफ्नी धारणा राख्न अनुरोध



 
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Zindagi lai khusi banauna chahaanchau bhane yaha bata bhaagi hala... yaha santaan janmaunu bhaneko afnai khutta ma bancharo le hannu ho... hem ji kuley raam thoki haalnu .. paisa tanna kamaye haalnu bhayecha ... yaha ko life dekhi haalnu bho .. bihana kaam ma gayo raati farkyo .. yaso ghumyo sathi bhai bhetyo bholi tehi routine... weekend ma ghumyo aayo ... nepali haru yaha yastai ho .. dhaak lagauney .. herney .. kura kaatney ... bhaagnus.. nepali farkera 1 barsa garho hola.. once u get used to bhaye pachi tehi ho ramailo lagna thalcha.. dhuwa dhulo ko compalin nagarau... nepal testai ho ni paila dekhi... hami le kaun sa dhuwa dhulo na khako hora paila ... bhaagnus bhaagnus...
 
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@Hem Narayan Chhantyal: PM me if you want to have a chat. I studied in the states for 8 years and went back to Nepal to work. Happy to help.
 
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यसमा एउटा प्रसङ्ग जोड्न चाहे, धुवा धुलोले ल मानौं शरीर बिगार्ला, फोक्सोलाई असर पुराउला तर त्यसलाई कमसेकम मास्क प्रयोग गरेर या आउषधि उपचार गर्न त सकिन्छ| राम्रा सोच वयेका युवाहरु अग्रसर भएर सर सफ़ाइ गरेर धुवा धुलो नियन्त्रण गर्न त सकिन्छ| अमेरिकामा त तपाईको दिमाग नै गुम्छ| मेन्टल्लीनै खराब भएछी आफैलाई गुमाएछी अरु क नै पो गर्न सक्नु हुन्छ र |
 
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-म एक ललितपुरबासी जसलाई अमेरिका र विदेश जाने कुनै सोख छैन, मस्त ले यहि कमाइएको छ, जिन्दगिमा मस्तले रमाइएको छ |
 
Posted on 05-28-18 5:32 PM     [Snapshot: 267]     Reply [Subscribe]
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@All,

Happiness is a state of mind. Moving to a new city or moving to a different country won't make you happy. You will come back to your original state after few months. You have to make peace with your inner demons first. That does not mean that I am discouraging you to move back to Nepal. Definitely move back. But, think why did you come here in the US in the first place? Were you more happier back then ? Is there in your life that you are lacking or lagging? May be your life has become too sedentary and monotonous. Get out of your comfort zone.US is a vast beautiful place. Go get some adventure. Just dont spend your life sitting on that shitty couch. Good luck bro.
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barsa ko 100k us dollar save huncha vane job ramrai hola. behe bhai sakyo. aaba euta bachha ko kami chha life ma. tyo baby le tapai ko sochne tarika nai badalcha. usko future sajhilo huncha. by the time bachha 16 yr ko huncha tapai ko retire hune belahuncha. nepal ma euta ghar ra jagga vai halcha. ani buda budi kumlo kasera jane nepal. kids yahi hurkinchan. pashupati jane sadhai ani bhajan gaune basne. nepal pugda tapai haro 50s ko hunu huncha hola, dharma karma garne basne. kids bhetna barsa ma 1 palta aaune. afnu khusi matra na sochau bholi santan le gali na garun. aru 20 barsa basda sabai ko jiban sajhilo huncha. just my opinion. its ur call.
 
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If you are saving 100K per year in your saving account, you should consider not leaving USA.

 
Posted on 05-28-18 9:03 PM     [Snapshot: 506]     Reply [Subscribe]
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नेपालमा तपैहरु जस्ता युवाहरुको खाचो छ | तपाईहरुजस्ता युवाका इच्छा र लगानीले नै देश बन्ने हो | त्यसैले त्यस्ता अरुको रेसिस्ट देशमा गोरु जस्तै जोतेर ट्याक्स तिरेर देश र त्यहाँका मानिशलाई मात्रै धनि बनाएर बुढो हुनु भन्दा, आफ्नै देशमा लगानी गर्नुहोस, आफ्नै साथीभाई इस्टमित्र आफन्तलाई रोजगारी दिनुहोस, देशलाई समृद्ध बनाउनुहोस | यहाँ इच्छा हुने र गर्नेले यहि कमाउछन् | यहि काठमाडौँ को मोमो पसले ले महिना को ५ लाख रुपैया त आरामले नाफा मात्रै कमाउछ | मस्त आफ्नै देशमा बसेर, मोमो, दाल भात खाएर, मस्त कमाएर बरु घुम्नलाई ११ दिन को युएस, युरोप टूर पो गईन्छ |
 
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71 barse afulai lakka jawan samjhane trumple america chalaundai chha, 30 barse nepali chain halka budho ???
 
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What do u Do? I don't even save 10 k a year bit I am still dragging here. Desperate Nepalis need money ,so help them From here and make bigger impact. You can be in Nepal but you won't me making any difference. Most Kathmandu residents are splint brats who spend their money in extramarital affairs and jaad. They talk to you as id they are doing a favor by living in Nepal. Do t be one of those ppl. Do business I the US if you want to spend a lot of time in Nepal.
 
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One of the very few (actually extremely rare) posts in Sajha that has no right answers and no wrong answers as a solution. It is because the topic of discussion can go both ways, well, at least that how I feel-- to return or not to return back to Nepal.

I have finished reading all of the comments posted above and agree with all of them. They have all shared their opinion and I'll say this again, I don't think anybody's wrong. Like what Gwach bro said, Amrikaa ko basaai is not only for you, it's for your kids too. What if you return back and 20 yrs from now your kids say "mero baa le Amrikaa nachhadya bhaye, haami pani raamro thaau ma pugtheu hola......" I'm not trying to say Nepal ma chai kids hurkauna sakinna, but living standards, education standards, freedom, career, etc. chai yeta kai badhi probability dekhincha hai.

Just like what cool_like_a_bird said, happiness lies within yourself. If you feel you will find more peace and happiness going back home, I think you should. But, would moving to a different city, state, or country really change how you enjoy your life? You need to ask yourself. Even I have seen people go back home and succeed. I have also seen people stick around here and succeed too. Harek ko case aafno aafno huncha. I know this may not be the answer you're looking for but like I said, this topic of discussion can go both ways.

By the way, a $100k per year savings is no joke. I don't know what you and your spouse do for a living (I can care less) but trust me, you guys are doing wayyyyyy better than most of us.

Ma pani suitcase maa gundruk nai liyera aako ho, more than a decade ago. Undergrad sakkiyo raamro university bata. Graduate sakkiyo CPT wala school bata. IT maa chhirera raamrai career banaako pani over 6 years bhayo. Nepal maa ghar jagga ni kinekai chhu. Baa aama herekai chhu. Tara khai, ahile samma kehi chaajo paajo chaina. DV ni parena. H1 ni parya haina. Na saranaarthi paryo. Na love garya US citizen Nepali keti sanga bihe nai bhayo. Na ta ahile samma EB2 ko result nai aayo. Tyei pani haresh khaako chaina. Kehi hunchha bhanera.


Good luck brother!!

 
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@Statuspidit le hasayo..love gareko nepali citizen keti ni fuskayau..arkai boka le citizen pauni lobe ma udai diyo ki k ho..afno pani aba 1 tai bato cha..USC nepali keti bihe garnu..yahan nepali kt matarai bhaye ta bhau khojera hattu cha..jhan USC bhaye chi moti bhyatli le pani manche gandinan nepali keta lai hahhaaa...

Any for OP, nice you save 100K a year (combile house hold income must be over 250K), if you have enough money and plan , go back home, but give birth to your child here before you go so your child has option to come back when he/she grows up.
 
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To sajha admin:
ghanta jasto!! since last 69 months, sojoketo id bata login gareko, login nai bhayena. bhedbhaav garne sajha admin le block gardeko hola bhanera who cares bhani i moved on. feri after few months arko id, arko laptop, arko ipad, yaha samma ki arko iPhone nai change gari logon garna khojya. tai pani bhayena. wakka lagera feri chadide. ani aajha yeso hereko, नफर्किने गरि नेपाल जाने सोच bhanne yo thread dekhe. pade. gudgudi bhayo aafno kura bhanna. ani I tried to logon. ajhai bhayena. Internet Explorer use garau na ta bhanera try gareko. fyatta logon bhayo. ahile samma chorme use garirako thiye. chrome ko crappy setting ko problem hola. yesta ta IT architect re. God bless my company. :)

To Hem Narayan:

7-8 barsama tetro saving, $100k saving per year. 1 time matra khayera gadi ma sutne gareko cha ki kya ho? Whatever, good saving bro.


1. bacha usa ma janmaunu ani Nepal ma hurkaunu. US citizen can stay in Nepal as long as they want, Nepali citizen needs to conquer a battle with US embassy even to get in USA. Kati sangarsha garera USA chireko, REMEMBER?

2. dhilo chado nepali haruko GC/Citizen hunca. GC status ma Nepal jane usa aune garnu. Citizen bhayo pachi Nepal ma basnu. Usa ghumna aunu.

3. if you don't like 1 and 2, and you really want to go, do it. However, plz always have an alternative plan.

4. you don't like 1, 2 and 3, stay here in US. Involve in physical activities, yoga, meditation and so on...


- In 2018, Nepal (KTM) ma kira haru jattikai manche, motorcycle, gadi rangbangee raheko hunchan. paisa paisa paisa bhanne marimitne haru kati kati. paisa ani power (chor neta and their associates,relatives)wala harulai dherai sajilo huncha sarbasadhan janta lai bhanda.
- 2005, 2010 ,2015 bhanda pani dhulo, fohor, pani ko abhav. Batti almost 24/7 jastai huncha ahile. Internet 24/7, pani ko dukkha sayad melamchi ayo pachi solve hunca ki? paisa bhayo pachi you can get almost everything(food,clothes etc) what you get here in USA. quality would be different.
for sojoketo Nepal is always the best place to live in.
एक दिन सोजोकेटो ले अवस्ये सुरु गर्छ Nepal मा सोजोकेटो को business
buda budi kura garnu, ama babu pariwar chan bhane uniharu ko sallah linu, ani decision garnu.
Good luck!
 
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" or sojoketo Nepal is always the best place to live in.
एक दिन सोजोकेटो ले अवस्ये सुरु गर्छ Nepal मा सोजोकेटो को business"

नापिस मुजी, साझा मा घ्वां घ्वां रुने ले business गर्ने

...अरु भन कहिले छुटिस पागलखाना बाट
 
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सात आठ करोड सेभ गर्या भए ऐले कुलेलाम ठोक्थे |
 
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@ HEM NARAYAN CHHANTYAL:

भुत्रो को हरेक वर्ष १ लाख अमेरिकी डल्लर कमिन्छ यार !
हामि पनि यहाँ बसेको १० वर्ष भन्दा बडी नै भयो !राम्रो नै काम गर्छौ !
हावा गफ दिन पनि कति देको ! तोइत !
कि त गैरकानुनी काम गर्नु पर्यो ! त्यत्रो पैसा कसरि जम्मा हुन्छ ! हावा !
 
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My suggestion don't have any kids. Look at the population of the world , its about to explode.
World does not need any more people.
If you have lot of money donate it. Help old and disable people.

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/


 
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Amrica Hamile banako hoina. Yasko majja line timiharu bhagyamani hau. Nepal lai nabirsinu.
 



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