Hey friends and Girlfriends....

do you guys know that, In Colorado, Denver there is a couple who lived in denver for over a 20 years, Shyam And Shanti Shrestha, Be very carefull about them cause I have friends who live in washingtion D.C. now a days, he paid them about $25000.00 for a loan but those basterd never return or paid back my friend money......

Hi all. Thank you for taking the posts sanely, and if I may suggest, lets keep this forum more mature and refrain ourselves from using profanity.

Dear TheTruthHurts, one who makes the mistake and lies makes the loudest noise. I am sure you are an acquintance of the couple and hence your such attitude towards the article. I have nothing to do with the Shresthas, I am just trying to get justification to some people who feel that they are victimized by them, which I truly believe because, I haven't heard from one person who can give me a discrete reason why I shoudln't believe the victims. And just trying to make sure that from now onwards no one is victimized by them anymore.

Lately I am hearing that their new targets are the Bhutanese Refugees. And yes, I call them victims because despite the lawyer Kanwal's request not to make any further application for Labor Certification and Green Cards, because that would exceed the maximum allowed, the Shrestha couple went to Washington DC and hired another lawyer who was kept under the dark and filed more apps in effort to milk more money from more people. So, please don't try to make them Saints, when in fact they are the pinnacle of greed.

I totally agree to the fact that everyone is right in their own views. For Eva Brown and Nazi Germany Hitler was kind and a fantastic person, but for the rest of the world he was cruel and terrible. Same thing, I am sure the couple are nice to some people and perhaps a lot too. But, as far as I know there are 100 people who knows that they are cruel to 1 person who thinks they are not. And please don't take me wrong. I am not trying to compare the couple with Hitler. I am just giving an example.

When you take money promising someone a service, I think it is ethical enough to make sure that the process is correctly done. Its just a common sense, my friends. But, the couple failed to recognize the fundamentals of business and hence took their greed beyond other people's lives. This is just not acceptable.

Regarding the IT consultancy firms, they don't charge the upfront favor fee. Yes they do pay them less than half of what they were paid by the hirign companies. But, when you are paid $30 per hour by the IT firm, and get employment based GC in three years, that's a pretty cool deal, as oppose to you pay $15,000 upfront, then taxes, then all the lawyer fee and on top the company (in this case the couple's restaurant) makes too many apps such that there is no chance of getting a GC. I think this is indeed wrong and unethical. If they were just as Saints as you make seem like, they should have outright refused to make such promises and services. By the way, the more you argue with what they have done, the more bad is going to be revealed making them look even worse.

We are as real as you think you are and you think the Shrestha couple are, my friend. Please read Dyamn's post, and tell me why I should believe you or the Shrestha couple's arguments when even I know if I ask anyone in Denver and Boulder metro area, they are all going to tell me the same thing. Even a few family members of the the couple say such things about the couple. I don't have to name them, because both Shyam and Shanti Shrestha both know who I am referring to, and most likely you too. And please do not try to make me write their names, because that would only ashame you guys more. Have some dignity to accept your mistakes and come out with an apology, in a nicer attitude. Then most likely the couple will be forgiven. May be!!

Also, I have received one more email of the couple's dark deeds in Colorado, when they took a full advantage of someone's situation. I wll post that soon. You know my friends, when you have children, you are ready to do anything for them. Most people fell for the couple's promises to fill their dreams for their children. People with children and in need of help are the easiest target anyways. How brilliant of them!

Good Luck and see you soon. Keep posting more deeds. If you want to stay anonymous, send me email: sadman777@gmail.com.

Mr Sadman,

Here's the thing. What I was merely trying to say is that people often believe things through the grapevine that is often not true. No wonder hamro desh is known as hallai halla ko desh...

You started your reply by saying " I am sure you are an acquintance of the couple
and hence your such attitude towards the article." Excuse me, I neither know these couple nor care to. Your argument is such that if someone takes an opposing view from yours, that person is a "friend" of the couples. Huh! Ok, going by that same reasoning how can we believe that you yourself are impartial in this matter. Maybe YOU have a personal vendetta against them...maybe even a competing restaurant or whatever the case maybe.

You mentioned: "Lately I am hearing that their new targets are the
Bhutanese Refugees.." - my point exactly...don't base your argument on something that you heard. Even I can start a forum and say that lately I heard that Sadman's new agenda on Sajha is to be a hate mongering critic and have everyone and their uncle have something to say ...Does that mean that it's right or true?

You said: "Shrestha couple went to Washington DC and hired
another lawyer who was kept under the dark and filed more apps in effort
to milk more money from more people." - I am sure you read this on Denverpost.com lol....and here's someone who's writing on the forum and trying to be objective regarding the situation and saying "I have nothing to do with the Shresthas". Ha! and I am the prez of the US....

You said: "But, when you are paid $30 per hour by the IT
firm, and get employment based GC in three years, that's a pretty cool
deal" - The reason I used the IT firms as an example was to point out that some of the companies do pad up the resumes of the clients and charge, Yes my friend, charge them money to "guarantee" GC...Yes my friend, that is how i got my GC with Cisco. 

You said: "The company (in this case the couple's restaurant)
makes too many apps such that there is no chance of getting a GC..." - Ah that's right, people start restaurant biz as just a false front....they are essentially using that to apply for GC illegally. Have you ever owned a biz? You have more to lose as a biz owner than others. I'm sure you think that the couple is busy applying for GC for all nepalis rather than worrying about what to put on their buffet item for tomorrow....LMAO

You said: "Have some dignity to accept your mistakes and come
out with an apology, in a nicer attitude. " Huh??? I didn't think my earlier post was an apology...It was a different take on the issue, please re-read if you didn't catch the gist the first time....

You said: "Even a few family members of the the couple say
such things about the couple."  Wait, were these family members also charged $15K by the couple for their GC...hahaha. How much did you pay them...lol

You said: "You know my friends, when you have children, you
are ready to do anything for them.  People with children
and in need of help are the easiest target anyways. How brilliant of
them!" - I say, how brilliant of you to use this novel concept almost Karan Johar type of pulling on the heart strings of the masses that read your post...Oh how can the big bad gundas prey on the innocent people who have children...Should i even add a villainous soundtrack..."dhan ta ran..." LOL!!!

sadman777, there is no point writing things on sajha about these crooks.i think you and other should reach FBI for this fraud and get them busted.

I really appreciate your comments. I am glad there is someone who thinks positively about them.
Amazing America. I love this country. People must hear both sides of the story before reaching a conclusion.

However, you would be the first one, since I have been interested in this matter, since about 2008. I hope there are even more who can back them up so confidently. But, your arguments are still not convincing as you only rebut my statements that has nothing to do with the couple's actions. Remember, this is not about me or you, and my apologies if I have put forth words to reflect any such feelings. This is about the ill-deeds of Shyam and Shanti Shrestha that I am aware of, and I am not saying this out of personal vendetta, I am just trying to infrom the public so that there are no more victims. And in effort to enlight people why they should refrain from engaging in any business with them without the help of a capable counsel, I am just acting as a communicator to the victims. Please do not take this personally, and I really apologize if I offend you in any ways.

By the way, I googled Karan Johar. I am glad you compare me with an award winning Director of Indian cinema. If only I could understand the Indian Language, it would have been nice, eh! Thank you though.

And, I did not have to pay anyone anything. I was born and raised in the midwest. Just for your information, Estes Park Colorado is a pretty cool place to live and make friends. A great retreat for those who suffer. And I am glad to have spoken to someone, who knows some of those victims and is tired of the couple's wrong behavior. Small world this is, eh!

If anyone have more Green Card cases with them or perhaps more details please email me. Again, do not be afraid. Do not be fooled by the fear they might have shown to you. If you are still illegal, your case could be even stronger with an argument that you fell victim to the false promosises shown by this couple. And if you have fallen victim to this couple or any other greedy people, you should let public know, so that no one is hurt again. This must stop - NOW.

Within the next few days, I will have an incident report of one Jyoti Dhital, who sent me a long email and said that he doesn't care if his name is out in public. I am putting it in a more simpler form so that we can all understand how Shyam and Shanti Shrestha plays with people's lives. Unfortunatley Mr. Dhital is still awaiting his $28,000 after 4 years. Don't worry folks, this is nothing do with Green Card, it is something else, and you won't believe how innocent the couple act and take United States law as a defense to their case, when in fact, they themselves are violating it.

Thank you for reading. I think I am going to watch "Kuch Kuch Hota Hai" (Translation: Something Happens, with subtitles of course), which happens to be Karan Johar's Directorial Debut, and won all the major awards.

PShrestha78,

Thank you for reading. I am afraid FBI and the authorities have too many cases like this, and the Shrestha couple are in their just another To-Do List. But time will come when they will have their days soon.

In the meantime, I think we should shed light among the community to avoid any victimization by the couple or anyone like them.

sadman77, most Nepali people know about these crooks. so in a way, i am sorry to say but your effort to educate Nepali people about these crooks is useless  fundamentally. The people who you are calling victims were the ones who reached these crooks. they beg them to take money and make them greencards. again, people go to these crooks, these crooks don't advertise on newspapers. so they are in fault too. people are desperate. and you know what , most people who come to usa and can spend 28k or more are not poor, even if they go back to Nepal, but people like to go there with their green cards or citizenship and boast about their wealth to other people, their relatives, friends etc... when they get green cards they do the same things to other Nepali people. this is a thrid world mentality which will not go away so easily.

the way i see it , there are three parties who are part of this fraud..

1) the so called victims, who went to these crooks to cheat the US immigration system. no matter how desperate you are a crime is a crime. you can be starving to death but if you kill someone then you are a murderer. and these victims are victims of course, but primarly of their greed and then Shrestha and co.

2) US immigration sytem: the green card frauds are rampant. it's not just in Nepali communities but in chinese, indian, almost all international communities. people with papers are using people without papers as slaves. and what have been done to rectify these, nothing. if authorities were really cracking down on these modern slave owners then there would be no Shyam,Narayan,Shati and others in this great country.

3) frauds like Shyam and Shanti..

sadly, Sir, i have to tell you this. if you don't have a pleanty of time with the heart like size of colorado, don't get involved into this. this keeps going, there is no end of this slave-slavery,greencard, greed, saga.. everyone's guilty and no one is innocent, some get used some use them.. i spent a lot of time trying to understand this b.s and the more i dig into it the more sadder i became..

the truthhurts, i understand your sentiments but i doubt your arguments. CISCO don't take money to file for green card. The money has to be paid by the employer to process green card and i'm sure a reputed company like cisco don't care about extra 4-5 k to file for an employee's gc.  yes, you may have paid that to your indian consultancy. but my friend, lots of Nepali people are not educated like you and Indian consultancy path is not suitable for all of them. some of them might have come to this country in their late lives or simply didn't get lucky on faking their resume and finding a job.since you 've got your green card that way, you must know that you are an example of very few IT consultants who got their green cards. most are chewed and thrown by desis a long ago before they get their green cards.

           Again the most funny thing is one illegal path is not better than other one. they both are illegal. faking a resume , boasting the work experence, having someone else take interviews or video screening is illegal as well. And as you know lots and lots of people complain about these IT companies too and now a days it's almost impossible to go through these desi companies since they are getting their arse busted. Shanti and Co and other restaurant owners who  take advantage of the system should deserve similar treatment from authorities. Anyway, blaming victims for not taking advantage of IT consultancies instead don't give shanti and co justification to take advantage of immigration system and cheat other Nepalis.  

 As a Nepali i am sick and tired of people getting away with corruption, scam and all types of crimes even mass murders(prachanda). Nepali people never come up together and bust these sucm bags. lot of times they have supporters , what suprises me the most. write anything about moaists and you'll find 10 people writing against them but there will be around 4 who will supporting them. nothing will happen to our country, our identity unless we start unaccepting these people.

The. Guy. Above. Bores. Me. And. Sayings. With. Periods. Separating. Every. Frickin. Word. Is. Hard. To. Read.

@sadman777- You said, "You know my friends, when you have children, you are ready to do anything for them. Most people fell for the couple's promises to fill their dreams for their children". I have a strong problem against this argument. Like I wrote in this previous post, "Did any of the 'victims' not have enough to eat and survive in Nepal so HAD to come to the US for the sake of survival? Did any of the 'victims' HAD to flee Nepal because the Maoist threatened to kill them? Did they have no where else to go out of fear for their life and HAD to come to the US and HAD to get a green card by any means possible?" I am not saying people should not have aspirations to move up in life and/or hope that their children have a better life. I also understand sometimes these aspirations and desires make us do fraudulent things and we find ourselves in situations we didn't want to be in. However, the only problem I have with you is that you are not acknowledging that even the 'victims' are at fault here. The 'victim's' greed too played a part. It sounds like, the couple definitely is at fault and I am sure the legal system will deal with them as soon as the government realizes that they are applying for fraudulent sponsorship.However, going by your logic about the 'victims' doing this for their children can't it be argued that may be the couple too were doing it for their children. The couple HAD to raise a lot of money to be able to send their kids to good school so they had to collect money from these 'victims' so that they could "fill their dreams for their children". So, I guess it could be argued that both parties were doing it for the sake of their children. Neither party wanted anything for themselves. Does that make "greed" right? As far as I am concerned, definitely not. The couple shouldn't have been so greedy and they should have to deal with the legal system for this. However, even the 'victims' should be willing to take part of the blame. It's high time that we Nepalese learn to take responsibilities for our own actions rather than blaming everything on everyone else. Nepal ra Nepali ko jaya hoos!!!!!

Sadman wrote about Jyoti Dhital and that he is waiting for 28,000 and this is nothing to do with Green Card.

I heard about Jyoti Dhital in Nepal. His ex-wife Sweta is a friend of my wife's (they went to school together). Sweta said that she and Jyoti got into an agreement to purchase a gas station and put down a deposit of $10K with Shyam & Shanti.

Sweta was still married at time. They ran the gas station for almost a year but then, there was friction in the marriage (apparently the guy - Jyoti was physically abusive). Although Sweta wanted to honor the contract, Jyoti wanted to get out of it without paying. Jyoti just left his kid and wife and left the country to go to Canada. Shyam and Shanti just took the deposit of $10K but did not pursue the matter.

According to Sweta Jyoti owed more to Shyam & Shanti, not the other way around. He also took all of their savings so she was left with nothing. So I don't know what story Sadman heard from Jyoti, but this is from the wife's side.

Thanks brother!! for making a good story and posting it in Sajha. You seem to be a good friend of Shweta (who by the way is still my good friend).
And let me remind you the following about what you wrote...You mentioned we had a friction in marriage so I left..and we both ran the station...for your information.. I left the gas station in sept 2006 formally after training three new hires of Mr. Shrestha. Also I left for Canada in Apr 2008 so don't try to bridge the gap and make your story look appealing. After leaving the station, I was with Shweta for more than 1 and half yr and for your information Shweta still doesn't talk to these Shrestha's couple because she couldn't forgive them for what they did to us.
Regarding me being abusive, I was in army and may have hit you sometime when I was in Nepal..because i used to quite rough and hopefully you know that very well. Please don't try to bring your imagination and tell that Shweta told that she wanted to honour the contract. She had nothing to do with this station (she hardly came to the station because of her hectic job) for everything was between me and Mr. Shrestha. But again I know you are trying to protect Mr. Shrestha..who is double my age. I have no interest in the money now...I wish you and Mr. Shrestha enjoy the money now and honestly if I meet Mr. Shrestha, I shall give him a couple of hundred dollars for I know he is always hungry.
Regarding your statement regarding me walking with Shweta's money, let me remind you that we both still have a joint line of credit worth more than $30 K with a major bank in US and we haven't used even $0.00 out of it..Had I been running after money, I would have taken that way back when I left US in 2008.
Forget about my ex-wife money, just find somebody whom I owe $100.00 (with a proof) and I shall give both of you (you and the person whom I owe!!) $1000.00 each.  I am not one of those who screw others for money. I have in my life time donated $1000's of dollars and if you want more on that you can contact two schools in Dhulikhel (I can give you the names and the contact person) where I donated more than $300.00 (plus a suitcase of clothes) this time when I visited Nepal in 2009. By the way, I am born in a business family and have seen so much property in life..I guess you will only dream about it in real life.
And yeah!! lastly hope you have a good relation with your wife and also with the person whom you are trying to protect.
My honesty is also best described by me using my real name (sorry!! I don't have any hard feelings for those who don't..for I know everybody have their own choice).

I heard from people in Colorado that jyoti dhital got in fight with his wife's brother...not a gud man to leave wife and kid...

I don't understand why people are getting down into Jyoti Dhital personal life, where as main culprit is SHRESTHA couple "Shyam and Shanti".  

@pshrestha78 - Thank you for your opinion. It saddens me how people from such a wonderful country can behave in such ways with each other. It is my love for Nepal and its people, why I am trying to get to the bottom of this, and fill the community with truth. Because we all have American Dreams and hence many immigrate to this great nation. But a few people take total advantage of the system and people. But then again truth is subjective and are merely personal opinion. Even the culprit claims to be innocent. All scammers are innocent to themselves. Funny world anyways.

@sab_nepaliko_sathi - Thank you for the comment. I am afraid, you are correct. Greed indeed fueled both the parties. I am sure someone who can spend $15-25k for such matter was welloff in Nepal. But, to my understanding most of them gave the Shrestha couple Credit Card Checks, which they are still paying to at more than 20% interest. And yes, the Shrestha couple also has kids and I am sure they want the best in their lives and hence such act, but my argument is simple to the fact that it is not acceptable to better the lives of the self in expense of others. And it is just so that in Colorado, not a single person have I heard from who say that the Shrestha couple are good people with valid arguments and incidents. But one has to have 100s good acts to be good and only 1 bad act to become bad. But, by no means I am trying to insight the personal lives of anyone, including the Shrestha couple. I am just trying to infrom their deeds that could have been prevented solely by themselves. And when there were opportunities to, they failed to do so, and instead brought suffering to many.

@others re:  Jyoti Dhital - Thanx for the personal information regarding him. But, then again, I am here only to report incidents and enlist most or all deeds of Shyam and Shanti Shrestha. Rest is onto you - People.

@sajha7 - Thank you for participating. I only have solid information, and have seen some of the proofs myself to the point when I am going to first believe any information of their evil act and then investigate into it. I have NOT been victimized by this couple and will never be anyways, because I won't associate myself with them or their family, except a few who are pretty cool people. The proofs, I believe, must come from the victims.

I request to all victims to have their names out, so that the Shrestha couple can confront them directly in public. I highly request them to come forward and stop this couple from any further destruction of more Nepalese families. And I know all of you are reading this.

As of this writing, I am requested, by one person whom I have very high regards to, to stop writing to this forum at least until the marriage of their daughter is over. It is via email and he still has no clue who I am, but I know who he is. As you all see, I have a lot of inside information regarding Shyam and Shanti Shrestha. But I hope you all agree, that this forum is certainly going to affect their daughter's wedding, giving more pain to the daughter and rest of the family including that of the groom, who has nothing to do with this.

All I can say to Shyam and Shanti Shrestha of Denver, Colorado at this point is that - You forgot that you also have daughters. The people whom you have ripped off also have daughters. You cannot smile when you have made others cry. You cannot laugh in your merry times when rest of them are still suffering because of you.

@JyotiDhital. I am sorry but I think we are gonna have to wait for your incident report. It will come out soon, and I have diagrams to clearly explain why this Shrestha couple are not good people to deal with.

@sadman777: Are you sure you want to stop exposing "crook Shyam and Shanti" shrestha. I think this is the right time to expose them so that they will never ever try to rip off another Nepali people. C'mon, if someone (who ever he/she is) tells you to stop and you will stop exposing. We should atleast let these crook Shrestha feel, how their victim felt when they played with their life.

i have seen them. they talk and act like they are some kind of celebrity.. let the truth come out.. who knows maybe someone's falling for their trick right now because they need extra cash to show lavishness in their daughter's wedding... if you don't have proof you should apologize and walk out of here..

@pshrestha78: Its not about how they act or what kind of lifestyle they have, its about how "Shyam and Shanti Shrestha" have lied and cheated other people. 

Shreeman sanjhali mahasaya,
Malai GC ko lagi tiniharu ko sahara linu paren. Ra ma Ahile samma Colorado ga chhaina. Ani kura ayo paisa khayeko kura, kin tini mahasaya le kanuni upachar naline. Ho yaha payesamma Nepali le Nepali lai murga banauchhan.

These Shrestha couple, are they related to Narayan Shrestha of Colorado?? I have heard quite a few cases related to Narayan Shrestha. Just wondering if they are members of one big CON-company..