Just curious to know, if Nepal needs to chose a second official language, (say like Spanish in USA and French in Canada) which language should be chosen as a second official language?

If you chose the one based on population, it should be Magar language,

If you chose the one based on uniformity of language spoken by the largest majority, it should be Tharu language (because Magar dialects are too versatile)

If you chose one based on ease in availability of literature, historical background, and cultural links it should be Maithali or Nepalbhasa (Newari)

If you chose the one based on uniqueness of nepalese value added with rich cultural ties, it should be Nepalbhasa (Newari)

If you chose the one based on ease of use by the majority of nepalese, it should be Hindi.

 

Which one would you prefer to chose ? Why ?

English!

Loote bro,

'We don't want a language which is spoken by less than 1% of the people be made an official language when there are other languages which are more common and easier means of communication than Hindi'

Hindi is spoken by less than 1% of the population and this is not good majority so is it still valid to make hindi an official language?

I have asked this q before = ever been to border towns??

uni,
I meant if Hindi can connect a good majority of those who can understand/speak their local language only (say Bhojpuri/Awadhi/Maithali) but cannot understand/speak Nepali then may be (i repeat: may be), Hindi qualifies to be one of our official languages. But as I said, a thorough research should be done before we can stand firm on that conclusion.

I have nothing against Hindi long as it can connect people and make them easier to work together and run the administration or parliament. Don't think of India (the big bro you abhor hahaha) when you think of the language (Hindi), if that language serves our people(nepali) better.

unicornis bro,

I haven't been in border towns, I have lived in a border town and no matter what anyone else says, I screw them and love the place where I was raised...and am proud to say that ......as much as I am proud to say I have spent my childhood in Chitwan, 20s in Ktm and so on.

Any querries are totally welcome. Please go ahead and I can try to answer .

I now feel it's my responsibility to clear any misconceptions which are there..and people who wanna close there eyes and sink their head into the sand of total ignorance are more than welcome to cling to the state of majestic blindness.

Prabhat bro,

I am from border town. I am asking this question cause I think people who comments easily about foreign language is not faced with reality. When u walk down the streets (Nepal) and u hear conversations in a foreign language and u think what the heck, where am I?

So it is ture language defines ur identity. We have lost rivers/ lands/ borders to our good neighbor, the last thing I want is to lose my identity. That's all.

Yeutai kura dohariyecha tehi bhayera uta ko lyayera yeta hali diye hai,

Oho yo ta lastai halla khalla garne bisaya bhayo. Hana yedi yestai ho bhane hami kina angrejilai mane englishlai Nepalko second language nabanaune. Sake nursery dekhi nabhaye class one dekhi english padhnu parekai cha. SLC ma englishmai gultiyera katiko bijog. English medium school ra sarkari school bhanera tetro gutbandi pani bhayekai ho. College puge pachi ta sab kitab jati angrejima tara masterle padaune jati Nepalima. Ani yeso jagir khojda pani angrejikai bhau charko. Yeso halka dui char sabda angrejima theldyo bhane manche haru danga, maiyaa haru ta specially danga. Ajha sahar bajar ghumda dui char words angreji ma phalaki diyo bhane khatra sahariya hoine. Ani ajkalka modern sahariya thitiharuko ta parai beglai (huna ta thita haru pani ustai hun). Kunni kas kasko ho angreji geet rap jhyap ke ke ho ke ke, sab gaudai sundai masta. Tyo najanne jati sab pakhe ajha halka bhanne ho bhane khepa. Aba hamra thula bada neta bhanauda haru pani chahe nepali ma bolun wa hindima angreji takka tukka misaihalchan ke bho ra. Yesai pani Nepal tourism ko lagi popular, ab sab angreji bolne bhaye bhane jhan dami huncha. America auna pani sajilo. Sab yo TOEFL, GRE sab 1600 ka 1600 la jaa, chinese haru bhanda pani khatara. La sathi bhai haru ho mero chahi sab sanga binamra anurodh hardikta ko sathma, angrejilai nepali ko dorso kamkajko bhasa banaiyos.

Jaya des, jaya america 

Look at the border area of any country in this world. Forget Nepal, go to Ino Pak border, Rajasthan, LOC, I will give u a huge guard of honour if u can differentiate who is Indian and who is Pakistani, not bcoz they infiltrate but bcoz they share almost similar landscape, they share similar food, similar language and so on.

Go to Pak Afghan border, I will give u double guard of honour. People on Pak side speak Pashtoon type Urdu. Same with Afghan people. Impossible to say who is Afghan and who is Paki.

We r in US, lets look at US Mexican border, Texas, Cali, Ariz. May be all Mexican looking people are  Mexicans right????

Agreed that people infiltrate, criminals play their games, but they have this common look on both sides anywhere in the world. If Nepal India border is an exception to that, I beg pardon for my ignorance.

People look almost same on either sidesof any border region in any part of the world. The farther u go the significant the difference is. If being dark skinned is a testament to not being a Nepali then god help all of us.

 

Hindi is not as widely spoken in Terai as some political parties are trying to make a point. They are playing games to satisfy their political needs. No leader alive today seems to be an exception though..any party, any colour.

It's those leaders who r giving bad name.

Now it's upto us to be fooled and start fighting among ourselves or look beyond the leaders. I can guarantee u, people in Terai though (they may look Indian to almost all of the rest of Nepalese brothers and sisters which I can't care any less) love this country and its identity as much as any body else.

Unfortunately they are the scapegoats bcoz of the parties. Now other leaders are puppets too...will it be wise to generalize any particular community as murderers or traitors or whatever bcoz a leader from that group/ caste did those deeds.

Wake up guys.

U r right, Prabhat bro.

I think it is the porous border of developing nations and the weakness to control immigration and emmigration. Ah!well, even a nation like US is struggling with such issue!!

all night, night!!

very well said Prabhat bro..........

Its a handful of leaders and their workers..and do u have any idea the workers..mostly criminals..from either side of the border...are doing these things, like destroying Bhanu's statue and so on. They are just those handful crooks who do things for some money and alcohol  and who have no idea what they r doing.

Guess who loses if a civil war erupts in Nepal bcoz of all this...and guess whose lives will be safe though thousands might die...guess who is working behind the closed doors..and GUESS WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IT IS TO SEE CLEARLY WHAT IS WHAT AND WHAT IS THE NEED OF THE HOUR....US.

I wish the government has enough willpower and ability to see what are the real issues here. But we are in such a mess that any major decision is taken by the assembly..to save or form the govt. they can take any foolish step....

The only solution I can see is the formation of all powerful lobby that comprises people from all walks of life, all caste and community, have a common goal and must be so powerful that it can influence a government. If foreign powers can influence Nepal for there national interest then why can't we influence our government for our own national interest.

Just saw Musharraf resigned, he had so much international backing but couldn't hold hois forte coz he weakened himself within the country. Our leaders do need support from us too. THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BE POWERFUL IS BY HAVING ENOUGH UNITY ACROSS ALL LINES, ENOUGH MONEY AND ENOUGH WILL POWER.

By the way Nepali is Nepal's pride as a national language in my view, from Mechi to Mahottari to Mahakali. Anyother language is a regional or ethnic language but Nepali is one common thread that binds us all.

जाती र भाषा मानबिय संबेदना  सबै भन्दा संबेदनशिल तत्वहरु हुन। त्यसैले होला, धेरै पहिले देखिन एउटा राजनीती धारको प्रतिनिधित्व गर्ने समूहले यसको बढवा दिदै आएका थिए र आज पनि तिनै को बाहुल्य छ। गैर नेपाली भाषीले  सधैं आफ्नो कमी कमजोरी को दोष नेपाली भाषा लाई दिने गरेको र तिनै असफलताको आक्रोशलाई भाषा राजनीति गर्नेहरुले प्रयोग गरेका हुन।

नेपाल मा नेपाली नबुझ्ने कती छन त , कुनै तथ्यांक छैन। साक्षर जती ले लेख्न र बोल्न सक्छन नै । अलिकती बोलाई को लवजमा भिन्नता होला, अलिकती व्याकरणमा गल्ती होला। बुझ्दै न बुझ्ने त शायदै होला। हो अझै पनि मेरै टोलमा राम्रो संग नेपाली बोल्न नसक्ने बजैहरु छन। १०-१५ अगाडि सम्म बोल्नै नजन्ने र नबुझ्ने पनि टेलिभिजन को कारण बुझ्ने भएका छन।

अर्को कुरा, आ-आफ्नो मात्रीभाषा सबैलाई प्यारो हुन्छ, मात्रिभाषा संग आफ्नो पहिचान लुकेको हुन्छ, त्यसैले त्यो भाषाको संरक्षण संबर्धन हुनु पर्छ। हुनु पर्छ भन्दा पनि आँफैले गर्नु पर्छ। आफ्नै छोरी ले नेपाली बाहेक नबोल्ने नेपाल भाषाका कथित सर्बमान्य  पद्म रत्न जस्ता नेताहरुले बहुभाषी  सह्-अस्तित्व  हाम्रो समाजमा टायर् बालेका हुन। अझै बाल्दै छन।
त्यसैले दोस्रो कुनै भाषा को वकालत गर्नु भनेको त्यो बलिरहेको नेपालमा पेट्रोल छर्किनु भन्दा अर्को हुन सक्दैन।

ok, what is the necessity of selecting a second official language? Why do we need other language ?If we really need any other language English would probably be the best as world understands it.We donot need any other language as 2nd ,3rd,4th official language we only need is a language that we all understan that stands for Nepal, A "NEPALI" as an official language.Proper respect should be given to all other languages spoken throught NEpal.

I am myself totally confused as what is the necessity to be indulged in this second language thing ? Prioritywise there are so many other genuine issues that needs to be addressed...like running water, education, and electricity or any form of energy, the basic needs are so much unfulfilled..but these so called leaders are busy in the topics which can so easily ignite the fire which was never seen before in the citizens of Nepal.

The selection of the people who r so much behind the problem today would never have been possible if the parties had put countries interest first..they had to form govt anyway....national interest can go to  hell...thus giving in to stupid people's stupid demands..and hence all these implications.

 

 

Dear friends, when it comes to your opinion about Nepal, it holds no weight. It's really sad and i'm on the same boat as well. we did not want prachanda to run maoist army, he did and not only that he's the prime minister now. we did not want medeshis to feel different and do not like Indian influence, guess what you know, now medeshi is your president and upa president, and not only that your first upa president haha swore in Hindi.

what you want and what you don't want hold no value, it is totally meaningless. and the funny part is everything you and i don't want , it passes through majority vote in Nepal. for example, the Nepalli people chose prachanda as their president. so it must mean you and i are the minority. in communist we could've easily labeled as traitors, but in democracy opps paron the new republic Nepal where a killer is the super power we are merely small insects who can cry out loud but have no other fate than to be crushed by the giant step of maoists and girija. and mannai parcha baaaa, they do it with majority opinion and with voting.

ठुल्दाइको बिचार साह्रैनै मन पर्‍यो।

Kalopani bro,

Honestly I would have felt much better and proud if someone more able, less controversial, more positive, and independent person was our VP and President..which caste/community/region..I don't care..makes no difference.

Still having known Dr Yadav, he is not the worst choice. He is much better among the choices we had. He respects Nepal's national language, dress, and identity and importantly he has come from humble beginnings to be a doctor. I m sure he can do better if he has strong will power.

But he has to rise above his party line..which I hope he will..and my best wishes are with him.

It treally makes no difference who is at the helm as long as he deserves it..by virtue of his character, ability and vision..not by virtue of his colour or religion or region.

Sadly this is what is true.

We can do at least one thing. We can be objective. If possible. We can have a coalition..if possible..

coming to think of a federal structure, an ideal scenario IMO would be Nepali and English as two official languages in the union level and local/native language as second official language at the state level where a good majority of the people speak/understand that particular language (means it is more common than Nepali). If that makes Hindi a second official language (after Nepali) for the local people/regions, I think the state and the country should not have any objection(s) in making it official for that region.

Sometimes we are two emotional for weaker reasons and at wrong places coz:

1) There are more complex and serious issues that are demanding more attention than the second official language thing.


2) Just because a section of people speak Hindi and a small part of Nepal has it as a second official language doesn't/shouldn't jeopardize our integrity long as we have firm and fair policies in trade, commerce, resource sharing and very many other areas with the big bro.

peace...

Oh and one more thing:
if it's of any comfort to those blind Indian haters we have here in sajha and elsewhere, Nepali is one of the 23 official languages in India. Assam, West Bengal and Sikkim (if my memory serves me right) have it.