My bhatij wants to study in Rato Bungalow, he just scored about 90% in SLC and asked me about it. I grew up in village, so did my brother. I was able to come here and do well, and now I want to help bhatij go to a good school. So essentially I will be footing his bill.

I would like to get some answers from the esteemed visitors, especially those with the first hand experience of the bungalow or competitive schools:

1. How hard is the entrance exam?
2. Since he will be going to KTM from outside, and we dont' have a home in KTM, how is the boarding facility? Do they have one? Is it male/female combined?
3. Also, does St Xavier offer A level? Do they still send students to Harvard like they used to do? Which one is harder to get in, St Xavier or Rato Bungalow?

Any relevant suggestion will be highly appreciated.

Pire,
I am a Xavarian. I completed my SLC from a well known school in Kathmandu and decided to study Isc in St. Xaviar's at Maitighar. And no St. Xaviar's doesn't have A levels.

Regarding where you should send your bhatij, it all depends on what do you want your bhatij to do after ISc/A levels. If your bhatij is going to study MBBS or engineering at Pulchowk, then nothing can be a better option than SXC (St. Xavier's College), and tell him to join the Biology group. The tuition and fees are relatively cheap......It is around 1500 per month I believe. The competition is fierce to get in and it never really subsides as you study there. The kids in Xavier's are very motivated and hard working. Thus, no wonder a lot of students get into Maharajgunj, Pulchowk, and many places from the Ministry. From my class, out of the 40 students they take in Maharajgunj, 5 bagged the MBBS seats and one of the guys from my physics group topped the pulchowk entrance exam. Lot of my friends are studying engineering in Pulchowk.

But if you want your bhatij to go abroad, specifically USA for higher education, then I strongly reccommend Rato Bungalow or Budhanilkantha A levels. Nothing really beats the A levels. The reason is that most kids from Xaviar's don't apply abroad initially and when they don't get into pretigeous MBBS/ engineering schools, then they do. They end up not knowing/getting into the prestigeous schools in the United States. But kids from Rato Bungalow and BKNS have to apply abroad as the A level curriculum is very different from Isc (and better in my opinion) and they have tough time getting into medical/engineering schools in Nepal anyways. Those kids already prepare for US college Admissions while they are in high school. So, it totally depends on what your bhatij wants to do after high school.

If you ask me as an Xavarian, I strongly suggest that he get into Rato Bungalow or Budhanilkanta A levels, do extremely well in his A levels and the SATs, and apply to top universities/colleges in the United States. If he works hard, he will get in and he will definitely get full financial aid. There are very few (probably a couple) students from St. Xaviar's that I know who are studying in very prestigeous schools (MIT, Harvard, Upenn, or any Ivy League, Amherst, Swarthmore, Williams, or any top liberal arts school). But there are a handful of students from Rato Bungalow and BKNS. The quality of education here is way better and relevant to the industry than in Nepal.
Another reason to take A leves is that having A levels gives you more credibility while applying in the US because it is internationally recognized. A lot of international kids in my current college took A levels in their high school and almost all international students get full financial aid here. With A levels you even get credit for the introductory college level classes.

All the Best.

Hi All,

Thanks. Specially to fortunefaded for his detailed suggestion.

It's funny that these days, we don't know what even a 90% mark in SLC is (i.e. how many students score higher than that?), so it is hard getting to know whether he could excel in these schools once he got in.

Everyone's suggestions have been valuable. Some of my early acquantees in some Ivy Schools were actually from St Xaviers. So, I am surprised to know that there are not many xavierians around in top schools anymore.

"Do they know what is the background of St Xaviers school? What politics is associated with it?"
and sarkozy,
mind your f.king language.For the two years I studied in Xaviar's it never felt like we were in a missionary school trying to preach us Christianity. They don't even mention Christ or Christianity for that matter. We had this class called 'social' something and we would talk about problems and social issues but the sisters and the fathers aren't there to convert us. Xaviarians started out as missionaries but times have changed and so has their focus. They are more into helping society (through God's will as they say ). But if someone wants to do good ( garbage collection , roadwork, helping poor and underprivileged kids in Kanti Hospital, etc) in the name of God, then why not?

And would you kindly tell me the politics associated with it?

Peace.

Very good discussion goin on:-)
Hi Pire, congrats to your Bhatij. He must have worked hard and definitely must be a brilliant student. But it surely does not meant that those who score below 90% (60 or even 50%) are not brilliant student. But academically he has done wonders. He deserves his choice of school.

Please talk to him (im sure u r doin) before u made decision for him.

Good Luck again

Sarkozy,

Success (academic, professional, athletic, etc) is a traingle of hard work, guidance and environment. Hardwork comes from the individual. Guidance comes from teachers, mentors, etc. Environment comes from everything around. Take one out and the triangle collapses.

StX provides the environment and guidance. It is up to the student to use it. There are a lot of hard working students at other colleges also. But the environment is very questionable, and guidance does not exist.

Xaverian for life is a TRUTH. One can be in denial, confusion, acceptance or even 'granduer' about it. But it cannot be taken away. By 'it' I mean the Xaverian identity. You will never understand it because you do not have it. And I cannot explain it in words. You may ask if there is any meaning in being a Xaverian. Hence my qualifier 'for whatever it is worth'. It is a matter for the individual to live with. And one can live in denial, entirely their choice.

Besides this, you do not say much besides 'hearsay' and those do not deserve response.

_x

 

 

Never Sent your bhatiji to ratobangla..Kids studying out there donot consider themselves as Nepalese..They think that they are born in US ,AUS or UK..Right from the beginning they are taught to hate Nepal..School sarai dhani mani ko chhora chhori padhchan, tapain ko bhatiji gaun bata padhera aayeko bahyera compexity develop huna sakchha..This is a school for rich spoiled brats .Mahango tuition fee bhayeko schhol ramro hunchha bhane nepali ko bani bata chutkara paunu..Go for Xavier's or some other school where there is a lesser tuition fee and whcih teaches you some culture..Ascol bata padhne haru le pani pragati greka chhan..Ra SLC ko result lai dherai kura portray gardaina..My brother got 90% on SLC and failed in ISC 3 times..So please try to settle her where there is a good study environment which teaches u moral values and being a neplai rather than place which has expesnive tuition fee, teaches to write Shakespearean crtitique at 7 classs..If she does really well then try her enroling at ST xavier..tyahan ko angerzez ramro chha, padhai pani ramro chha, fee pani sastochha..Don't spoil your bhatiji by forcing her to study at some expensive school...hope it helps

Dear All, (&Phoenix who sent me valuable opinion),

I totally understand your apprehension about whether my bhatij would be in awe with some rich kids in Rato Bungalow. But it also reminded me my childhood, when I was going to Ascol, and my mother specially warned me not to hang out with the 'rich kids of Kathmandu'. It turned out that a lot of rich kids were like me, afterall, and once I aced my ISc, they all started grudgingly admire me, even seeking my friendship.

Once in a while, however, we all want our loved kids to taste what we missed. I also had a few communications with Kanak Dixit in the past in some other unrelated events, and he doesn't sound like a man who would encourage kids to forget Nepal or act as if they were 'USA born'. On the other hand, some St Xavierians I knew or even some kids from my highschool in village acted as if they were meant to be in the USA after they landed here.

Regarding St Xavier, I think the name definitely is a put off for a conservative like me, and I used to think of it as an agency of proselytizers. But I am not afraid of some missionaries or their few moments of inculcation in favor of the Christ. My Bhatij is wise enough to appreciate (the superiority of) his own culture and religion.St Xavier school has in the past produced some good students, who ended up contributing to our country's business, media and politics. So, let us recognize the good jobs they have done too, even though their original motive still may remain the demolition of our heritage and supplanting it with theirs. 

"Right from the beginning they are taught to hate Nepal" - I have to correct you on that.That is utter BS!

Have you ever been to that school or even stayed in a class (during teaching workshops) ? How could you say such a thing. In fact children - right from the first graders are taught the value, the essence , the 'nepalipan' , the traditions of Nepal . Children partake in each of these activities and they learn through fun.

Please do not go around saying things that are just not true! And puhleeese there are always a few 'rotten potatoes in a sack' - regardless of a school being elite or not!

Axara,
Who cares about your  Xavarian "identity"? Nobody cares these days. Care for what? Some handful of rich people's children used to go there in the past and obviously did good ( as many other schools are also doing these days), it doesn't make you special and markedly different from others. K ko Xavarian identity? Jaslai Nepali vannuma ani aafulai Hindu/Budhhist bhanera identity dina man lagdaina tesailai hunchha hola Xavarian identity ko matlab. I never heard such term before. After all they are evangelicals: either in the form of education or health or whatever. Hami lai timro xavarian identity sanga kunai sarokaar chhaina ra tesle timro euta gut vitra chahi kaam garchha hola: to help make a perspective of others-- especially of those who are from common schools. Besides, I have seen some snobbish Xavarian people: may be it is the outcome of that very identity construction. 

Phoenix, "Nepali pan" kiss my ass..I have been there , in fact one of my very good friend's sister studies there and i know her friend's too!! "Shakespearean critique" , do they ever study "Devkota" essays and write a critique..In our nature(Ya We Nepali),always feel good in fact great when you relative or someone is very  good in English..

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i am proud to be a xavarian.  batch of 85.

Hey Atlanta and Axara,
Can you say that you feel proud to be a Nepali instead of Xavarian? What the hell is there in being a Xavarian? I know that you guys enjoy of being special among some traditional, stereotypical and narrow-minded feudal Kathmanduities as those people are in false consciousness that their kids' studying in X-mas-avier and Raato-Gulo-jasto-Bunglaw" school uplifts their social hierarchy among their poor neighborhood. "Mero Chhora ta Xaviers ma ho ni" bhanda aru garib nimukha haruko bich ma social status maintain vairakne ani dhak dhakku dina paine.....aru or kasaile sodhos or not, some Xavarians tend to pronounce their school's name beforehand. huh. poor meat-head Xavarians! I have already given a good reference of "frog in a well".

Sarkozy,

We shouldn't automatically assume that others -just because they are rich- are less patriotic. Sure, some girls I have met who came from very wealthy families in Nepal tried to avoid Nepalese and overall acted like they were not Nepali, but strangely enough, after going to Nepal, they became very dedicated to the causes of poor women.

So despite what they do, despite the fact they want to act like the foreigners (with the statement such as I always knew that I was not going to be living in Nepal), Xavierians or Bungalowians or BNKSians do love Nepal immensely, even when they may want to stay away from Wichita-state-going, Sharada-Madhyamik-Vidhyalaya graduating guys.:)

When it comes to giving our country a political leadership, or giving our country doctors/engineers, schools from around the country where poor farmers send their kids have done a great job. I think it is time for us to ask these BNKSians or Xavierians one question when they act snobbishly:

1. Name one person from your school who has contributed to nation's politics or philonthropy or sports or law or some other related. Give us one name that has changed lives for better, or give us one name that I feel proud about.

Nobody should respect an individual just because he has married a beautiful woman and is living in the USOfA and is driving Lexus here. Let's just ask one plain question: what have you done for your country or your village or society? I think that is the sign of patriotism.

 

The immaculate turn this thread has taken is impressive!!  We've now come to a point as to discussing which school is the most patriotic.  LMAO   I'm rolling with laughter!!  I'd say, the pathshalas would be the most patriotic of them all (and perhaps the best choice for honing one's innate Nepalipan). 

Also, as someone mentioned above, it's upto the individual to take advantage of all the curriculum the school provides to shape his own growth.  I've seen most Nepali kids from Lincoln falter here in the US than kids here who went to any other school back home (ironically they were supposed to have had a head start on us in terms of the American system of education)...IMO, It totally depends on the individual drive and ambition.

 

sarkozy,
"Can you say that you feel proud to be a Nepali instead of Xavarian?"

Certainly, you attended a school that didn't teach you an iota of etiquette or about school spirit, and 'how not to be an asshole in public forums.' Xavarians never stop priding themselves as Nepali. We pride because of our institution. People are proud of their schools/college/universities. We identify ourselves as being a part of that institution. It is not our whole identity but definitely part of it. Wouldn't a Harvard, or any other prestigeous school's grad be poud of their institution? SXC is a prestigous school in Nepal, whether you like to believe it or not. It's an institution that accepts students from all over the country and based on their academic merit and nothing else.  

"aru or kasaile sodhos or not, some Xavarians tend to pronounce their school's name beforehand."
Looks like you are ashamed of where you studied. Or may be it is the 'I got my ass raped in the entrance exam and can't stop bitching' sentiment pouring from your obnoxiously loud mouth, which stinks more than your pesudo-populist thinking.

Peace.

Pire hope this helps http://www.himalkhabar.com/hkp/news.php?id=1459

Hey Sarkozy,

You seriously need to check your facts before you assume too much and start a hate campaign.

Let me clarify:

--St. Xaviers's is an elite school.

--Not so much. I am a Xavierian, and I come from the far western region of Nepal. I am not rich, in fact the reason my parents chose STX over other schools was their cheap tuition. My only reason to move to KTM was for quality education, which cannot be found elsewhere in Nepal. Now, you may question the statement abt only KTM harboring the best schools, but it surely was valid 18 years ago. That aside, at least 10% students in my batch were like me. Majority of the students were middle class, which was definitely above my social status. About 5% approx. were from the elite class. 

From your rants above you seem to know the majority of socially elite/snobbish students of STX, that said, there is a high probability that you are in the very same squad. There are lots of nice and patriotic Xavierians out there. Again, I am in no way refering you as the frog in the well as I do know a lot of very understanding socially elite people. You are very much outside it, but please stop looking at it and calling it St. Xavier's.

Sarkozy,

The issue is not about Nepali or Nepalipan or Nepaliness. It is about someone seeking suggestions for her/his bhatij in their college selection.

If I put the question back to you: You being in Amrika, or outside of Nepal for that matter, was your choice and decision out of your circumstances. Did you ever question your Nepalipan or any such identity before taking that first flight? Was Nepal that bad for you? Or are you too big to admit that???

Answers??? Sarkozy???

_x

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काठमाडौं मोडेल कलेज ः नामअनुसार काम
 आठ वर्षघि स्थापना भएको काठमाडौं मोडेल कलेज, बागबजार स्थापनाको छोटो अवधिमै नमुना शिक्षण संस्थाको रूपमा स्थापित भएको छ । काठमाडौं मोडेल कलेजले हासिल गरेको प्रगति हर्दा तडकभडक र ठूल्ो भवन भएको शिक्षण संस्थाले मात्र राम्रो शैक्षिक गुणस्तर कायम राख्न सक्छन् भन्ने धारणा गलत सावित भएको छ । राम्रो 'टिम वर्क' भयो भने सीमित स्रोत साधनबाट पनि महत्त्वपूर्ण उपलब्धि हासिल गर्न सकिन्छ भ्न्ने उदाहरणका रूपमा काठमाडौं मोडललाई लिन सकिन्छ । काठमाडौं मोडेल कलेज किन साँच्चिकै मोडल हुन सफल भयो त - कलेजका निर्देशक रामेश्वर अर्याल भन्छन्, 'कुशल व्यवस्थापन, अनुभवी शिक्षक तथा प्राध्यापक, अनुशासित एवं शैक्षिक वातावरण, भौतिक पूवाधारको उचित व्यवस्थापन र विद्यार्थीको अथक लगनशीलताले गर्दा सफलता प्राप्त भएको हो ।'

 पाँच वर्षता विशिष्ट श्रेणीसहित उत्कृष्ट नतिजा ल्याउन सफल यो कलेजले गुणस्तरमा झनै फड्को मार्यो ।  हजारौंको संख्याबाट निकै छानेर विद्यार्थी भर्ना गर्ने गरेका कलेजहरूको भन्दा धेरै राम्रो रिजल्ट छ, यसको । २०६४ सालको कक्षा १२ को परीक्षामा ३ सय विद्यार्थी सहभागी रहेकोमा ७२ जना विशिष्ट श्रेणी, २११ जना प्रथम श्रेणी र १७ जना द्वितीय श्रेणीमा पास भए भने यस कलेजबाट पास भएका १४ जना विद्यार्थीले एमबिबिएस र इन्जिनियरिङको छात्रवृत्तिमा नाम निकाल्न सफल भएका छन् । 

अहिलेसम्म प्लस टु, बिए, बिबिए, बिबिएस र एमएमा विद्यार्थीले प्राप्त गरेको उत्कृष्ट नतिजा र विद्यार्थ्र्ले पाएको अवसरलाई मूल्यांकन गर्दा यो कलेज 'अकबरी सुन' सावित भएको छ । 

विज्ञान, व्यवस्थापन र मानविकीमा कक्षा ११ मा ४७० विद्यार्थी भर्ना लिने उक्त कलेजमा कक्षा ११ र १२ मा विज्ञानको मासिक शुल्क २ हजार, व्यवस्थापनको १ हजार २ सय र मानविकीको १ हजार छ र विज्ञानतर्फकक्षा ११ को भर्ना शुल्क १९ हजार छ भने व्यस्थापन र मानविकीमा १२ हजार छ ।

From : Samay Saptahik