i have been reading the news past few days on the peaceful protest Tibetans are trying to make in various parts of the world!, including nepal....where chinese officials are instructing the nepalese police to beat the crap out of the protestors! since when did we/the nepalese goverment gave rights to embassy officials to be out on the streets and instruct the police, our brothers, who are paid by our taxes! and its not like they are destroying property, they are showing their support to the land they have ties to! peacefully! whatever happened to the idea of freedom/ and a free society/and the idea of expressing opinions through writings and demonstrations?

how can we help? what do you all have to say about this?
may be we can discourage china doing a few simple things-
- buying less from walmart that says china/made in china
- eating less at chinese restaurants
-and doing our own dry-cleaning?

u might think what i said is asinine but thats what i think!

पहिला आफ्नो समस्या लाई हल गरौ अनी अरु लाई मद्घत गरु। आफु सक्छम भये अरु लाई मद्घत गर्न सकिने हो नि होइन र कि कसो?

Kura Sahi ho Pranaya. Desh Tukrayera k Milchha, Malai Thaha Chaiina. Tibetan Milera Tibet ma Base ta Bhai halyo ni.

KICK THEM OUT OF THE COUNTRY MAN!!! WE HAVE OUR OWN PROBLEM. LETS SOLVE OUR PROBLEM FIRST.

 

BUT IF YOU STILL WANT TO HELP TIBETANS THEN YOU SHOULD FIND WHERE TIBETANS LIVE AND LICK THEIR A**HO**.

dude! why don't you help poor Bhutanese Nepali instead of those rich Tibetans!!!
    They have been getting enough help since 1969. Now, they are richest people in Nepal. Do they still need help? or those poor Bhutanese who have same culture than Tibetans to Nepal. Help poor Bhutanese!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LISTEN TO THESE IDIOTIC MORONS.

I BET THSE MORONS WILL BE SAYING THE SAME SHIT IF EITHER INDIA OR TIBET WILL ONE DAY ENGULF NEPAL(AND NEPALIS WILL BE RUNNING AWAY FROM NEPAL TO EITHER INDIA, PAKISTHAN OR BANGLADESH).

YESTAI KUBUDDHI GADHA HARU LAEI GARERA HOLA NEPAL KO GATII YESTO BHAAKO.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUGGING BALLS TO STAND UP TO PEOPLE WOULD RATHER SUBMITT TO CHINA AND CATER TO THEIR DEMANDS?

YETAAA AYOO INDIA LEY CHYAPNA KHOJHCHA UTAA AYOO CHINA LEY CHYAAPNA KHOJHCHA. ANI BIICH MA CHA HAMRO ANDHOOO NEPALI BHEEEDAAA HARU.

THAT IS PROBABLY WHY NEALIS IN BHUTAN WERE TREATED LIKE SHIT JUST LIKE WE TREAT OUR NEIGHBORS LIKE SHIT. IF YOU WANT NEPALIS TO BE TREATED BETTER THEN YOU'D BETTER START TREATING OTHERS THE SAME.

THINK MORONS THINK !!!!

 

Me thinks:

There's not much we can do as a nation about Tibet issue.  Nepal depends too heavily in Chinese foreign policy and their aid.  I don't think we want to piss off our neighbour to the north.  However, as an individual, you can lend support in whatever manner as you see fit, or not.  I would if there is an opportunity, but from human relations perspective, not political.

I am not saying stake a stance against China either.

All I am saying is have a lil respect for the Tibetans living in Nepal. Coming from a country who is often bullied by its neighbors I tought may we would have a lil sympathy for people(Tibetans) who were forced out of their own country.

DO ON TO OTHER AS YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO DO TO YOU(IF NEPAL IS ENGULFED BY EITHER NEIGHBOR ...WE WILL BE IN THE SAME BOAT LIKE THE TIBETANS TOO).

Indians treat us like shit-------> we treat them like shit too-----> therefore the cycle goes on(calling each other names, playing political games)

At the moment Tibetans respect Nepali people for their hospitality(a lot of Tibetans call Nepal their second home). Now if these snakes keep spewing vwnom like above we might have another situation in our hand(like we really need another one). TARA YO GADHA HARU LEY YESTOO KURAA KE SOCHNU SAKTYO GADHAA TA PAREYYY KE GARNEY DIMAAG BHARIII GU NAI GUU CHAN. Tyasai ley yestai kubuddhi kura matrai garnu sakchan.

 

ude! why don't you help poor Bhutanese Nepali instead of those rich Tibetans!!!
    They have been getting enough help since 1959. Now, they are richest people in Nepal. Do they still need help? or those poor Bhutanese who have same culture than Tibetans to Nepal. Help poor Bhutanese!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are being helped. They are getting refuge status, and are transplanting themselves to Europe and US.

Its not just the matter of rich and poor JAVA. If Indians or Tibetans get rich in Nepal whose fault is it ? IT IS OUR OWN NEPALI PEOPLE"S LAZYNESS THAT THEY ARE TAKING OVER OUR BUSINESSES AND INFRASTRUCTURE. A lot of them come o Nepal with nothing in their pocket and are millionaires now at the expense of our lazyass Nepali people.

I want to help the Bhutanese people too. But the Politicians in Nepal are too busy securing their own political future and bank accounts rather than tackling this issue. Yo CHOOOR POLITICIAN RA LEADER AHRU AFU PANI KEHI GARDAINAN AKKAA LAI PANI KEHI GARNU DIDAINAN. Therefore our own Nepali refugees are getting out of Nepal.

couldn't agree more with bathroom coffee.

धीरज, तिमीलाई थाहा छैन शरण म आको लाई शरण दिन पर्छ भनेर। पाहुना को स्वागत  गर्न सिक।ाआफ्नो बा बाजे ले सिकाको सस्कार भुलन् भयेन्।
तिब्ब्ती हरु लाई नेपाल बाट धपाउने कस्तो कुरा गरेको त्यस्तै हो भने कती नेपाली बिदेश मा छन थाहा छ कि नै?

बाथ्रूम् कफी तिमिलै अरुलै गिरायेर् भन्दा अरु कुनै सिस्ट तरिकाले कुरा गर्न आउदैन जस्तो छ नि हुह्? सबै लाइ एउटै थालि मा राख्यो त। कस्ले भनेको छ तिब्ब्ति हरु प्रति शौहाद्र रखन हुन्दैन भनेर?येदि नराखेको भये उहिले इनिहरुलाइ नेपालि ले खेदथे होला नि हैन र?
ल तिमि नै भनन त कसरि सहयता गर्ने भनेर? अरुलाइ तब न गर्न सकिन्छ जुब आफु सक्छम् भइन्छ। नैतिक् समर्थन् त छ नि तर सयुक्त रास्ट्रसङ्ह मा गयेर कुर्लन सक्ने भारत् देश् को त हिम्मत चैन नेपाल् को के कुरा?

तिमीले, नेता हरुले गर्दा भुटानी हरुलाई हेल्प गर्न सकेनौ रे। नेता हरु ले तिम्रोहात खुट्टा मा साङ्लि लगयेर् राखेको थियो र? यदि तिमि आर्थिक रूप म सबल भयेको भये तिमिले गर्थ्यो हैन त? अरुलै हेल्प् तब न गर्न सकिन्छ जब तिमि सबल हुन्छौ नत्र त उफ्फ्रि माथि थुप्रि हुन्च होला नि होइन र?
कसै प्रती शौहाद्र राख्नु पर्छ राम्रो कुरा हो तर कसैको हेल्प गर्नु अघाढी आफ्नो समस्या टारनु पर्छ नत्र अझै भान्ड्भैलो हुन्छ मेरो कुरो त्यति नै हो?

 

आफु त महादेव् कस्ले देला बर्दान्

Other than at a personal level, I don't see what we as a country can really do without jeopardizing our own interests. Tibetans can do without our help as they have thus far over decades. The most we can do  is to not hand back to the Chinese authorities those helpless Tibetans who flee to Nepal en route to Dharamshala and allow peaceful protests.

At the end of the day, the only thing we can really do is stay out of it all as we have so well done for the last fifty years. Nepal's blind eye policy towards Tibet has worked thus far, and while the idea of a "re-awakening" (to continue with the metaphor) sounds appealing, I don't think anyone at the policy making level in Nepal is ready for a shift in Nepal's Tibet policy.

Just my thoughts.

Religious idiots and political whackos will always be willing

to destroy anything that does not fit thier...- Anonymous

My opinion is there is a need to look all the problems from practical perspectives rather than being over-sentimental. And, after 50 years of intregation of Tibet in China, there is no chance of Tibet being free now.

There is no need of calling UN n stuff like that coz United Nations was there even when China took control of Tibet. And, I personally do not believe that there can be seperate Tibet now because it has been very much part of China for 50 years. U may not like it but this is what I believe and I will not have any support for free Tibet. There are many people who believe in a way I believe and I know, some ppl do not like it, and think differently.

Nepal Govt. is in no position to help Tibetan and for that matter even largest democratic country-India is not extending any help to Tibetans. So, Tibetans can just shut up and accept the situation. Internally, there can be movements for political and civil liberties but FREE TIBET, I do not support and I do not see any reason to support it.

Sajha Lawyer,

Are you going to say the same shit if Nepal as a country is either taken over by China or India ? You will come and tell US(Nepali People) to Shut up ?

Cause we are in the same boat Tibet was before it was taken over by China( a sovereign nation). We neither have the army or economic power to deflect either if they choose to invade Nepal. SO ACCORDING TO SAJHA LAWYER HERE NEPALI PEOPLE SHOULD JUST ACCEPT AS THEIR MASTER IF EITHER OF THEM TAKE OVER NEPAL ? HE HE He probably thinks Iraq's invasion of Kuwait is justified too. And so is Israel's invasion of Palestine. hasaucha yo gadha ley. he he

 

bathroom, ta gadha hos ya bathroom ma gayera coffee khane khal ko aalu hos , malai matlab chhina, tara bhasha sikera aaija.
ta gadha yaha ko daka hos ki k ho? nabhaye sabhyata ko kura najjanne le k prasna garne??

I fight till my death to make Nepal independent and sovereign country if anyone tries to attack it. But, Tibet is accepted as part of China for 5o years and I am not going to extend any support to them. I am not saying them, they should not fight. It's upto them but as a Nepali citizen, I have no good reason to support them.

Later, if they do not support Nepali people, if nepal is annexed by any country, then,it is upto them. There are Sikkim annexed by India, why world is  silent........? coz the fact is that certain events are irreversible whether someone likes it or not.


This is not my answer to any particular person but is my general opinion. I urge people to learn civilization before they want to enagege in some good debates. The crticisms written in clean and dignified language is always welcome.

I am not saying this is the truth as I do not know that much of history in such details but this is one part of story and is really worth of knowing/watching it. Visit the link for Youtube Link

I am amazed that it has gathered more than 30, 000 comments in two days. I expect that visitors will comment here upon the facts presented by that video. 

Wow,
The youtube video is so ironic. He is able to post those BS on youtube from the West while youtube is banned in China. HAHAHAHAH. What a hypocracy. If Chinese have nothing to loose or hide, why ban a vital source of information, youtube, in China?
So I'm not impressed with your video link, a Chinese who thinks he knows all, hiding in Western freedom of press and media.He quotes old dynasty which can create a whole new subject for debate. Mind you, he's hiding the fact that  few Tibetan kings also conquered modern day Beijing long time ago. How far do you want to go? Tibetans don't claim Beijing as a part of Tibet, so why bring history during which there was no clear boundaries. What makes you think, if you claim that, China is NOT a part of Mongolia, since Genghis Khan conquered them.

 

Sajha Lawyer,"nabhaye sabhyata ko kura najjanne le k prasna garne??"

Nbhaye ko sabhyata ko jura na janney rey !!! ha ha ha Nahasaa na Ayy Gadha. Ta chahii matrai janney hami sababi najanney anpaaad gawwaarrr hoina ta gadha ? ha ha ha

 

Sajha Lawyer,"I fight till my death to make Nepal independent and sovereign country if anyone tries to attack it."

That is exactly what the Tibetans are trying to do MORON... DUHHH !! GEt it ?

 

Sajha Lawyer," But, Tibet is accepted as part of China for 5o years and I am not going to extend any support to them."

Says who MORON ? YOU ? ha ha ha Nahasa na GADHA. Even though they have their own culture, leader, religion, language....he he just because they have been part of China(not wilfully but forcefully) for 50 yrs they should just go ahead and accept themselves as Chinese(and lose their Tibetan identity). He would probably say the same if Nepal is annexed by India that Nepalis should forget their Nepali culture cause it would have been 50yrs since Nepal lost ints indipendence and they shoul just accept themselves as Indians then huh according to MR GADHA LAWYER here.

 

Sajha Lawyer,"Later, if they do not support Nepali people, if nepal is annexed by any country, then,it is upto them."

Come again ? he he Ummm Upp Whaaa ?

 

ANd when Sikkim was annexed by India... it was the Politicians and Corrupt Leaders who handed Sikkim to India in a silver platter.

First do your fugging homework and then come talk here. GIT YER FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU COME IN HERE BRAYING LIKE A DONKEY.


 

History records that as time pased the Buddhist order founded by Guru Rimpoche in Tibet became corrupt -the Lamas became worldly and induldged in all sorts of indecent practices.

Rich endowments made by the rulers(China) and nobles provided for the maintenance of the monasteries, plus the donations from the faithful were generous enough to keep the monks in comfort and even luxury-

Being  the Lamas themselves were rich and powerful, naturally there must have been a lot of abuse and exploitation of the poor....

Polyandry was common and divorce is easy for these Tibetan people.The custom were sadly worst in marriage system.tHE MARRIAGE WAS NOT CONSIDERED SACRED!! The tie was very slight and could be dissolved at any time by either the man or the women. Just imagine once said that -- a woman is not considered dishonoured by having a child before marriage!! ....

Slavery was prevalent in the country as well as  forced labour. Old records of these land speak of raids conduct for the capture of slaves.The burnt of these raids possibly fell on the Lepchas whose children were carried away by the Bhotias as slaves.This was so common that the Lepcha mothers used to frighten their children into obedience by threatening them; The Bhotias will take you!!

Counting this, there is no doubt China will everrest upholding Tibet as it was...

As been potray else where Tibetan women are commonly always in deep sorow and sadness in life....

May be the best title of these pic will be...No passport to Tibet......aites!!

 

 

*bibliography;  'The caste and Kin of Nepal", New Delhi, Haimendorf,Christopher Von Furer/