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 Future Lies in Democracy - King of Nepal in Time Magazine

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Posted on 03-31-06 8:42 AM     Reply [Subscribe]
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There is no doubt that King Gyanendra stands for democracy and peace in our country. But it is difficult to balance a strike between peace and democracy when violence is taking place by armed Maoists with indirect support from the political parties. Let us hope the King's commitment and sincere efforts leads us to a peaceful and prosperous Nepal.

His interview with Time Magazine


TIME: Where is Nepal heading?
Gyanendra: The future of Nepal, yes, lies in constitutional monarchy and multiparty democracy. Economically, it lies in openness and competition, and in joining the WTO [World Trade Organization]. Socially, we are in a difficult phase: some infrastructure, some of the basic things that were gelling the country together, have been trampled. There has been a lot of injury to much of rural Nepal, which needs to be addressed.

TIME: Why did you sack the elected government 16 months ago?
Gyanendra: I did not dismiss the government on Oct 4, 2002, out of my own free will. Are you saying I liked doing what I did, what I had to do? The compulsions of those days made me do what I had to. I was given a written request by the Prime Minister [Sher Bahadur Deuba, who was acting] on the advice of all the parties to invoke the last clause of the constitution [which, as a last resort in a national crisis, allows the King to take "appropriate measures" to safeguard the country]. So I was surprised when the parties accused us of regression. I had become regressive on their advice.

Now, we can go on debating forever whether it was the correct thing to do. I thought it was my constitutional obligation, otherwise the constitution was as good as dead. Don't forget I am the constitution's custodian: as long as it is there, I am going to pull everyone within its ambit. And had I not acted as I did, I think that Nepal would be in a worse situation that it is today.

TIME: What's the way out of the impasse that has developed?
Gyanendra: Even at that time, I asked the parties to come with a consensus government. Recently, I also met all the political leaders and I have asked them to put the nation and people first, to come to me with a government made up of all the parties. That is my roadmap, my agenda. I personally believe there is nothing that cannot be solved by dialogue and there is no issue that cannot be addressed within the ambit of the constitution.

But for that, the government of the day and the political leadership of Nepal must be pro-nation, pro-people. Everyone talks about the impasse between the "triangle" of the Maoists, the political parties and the palace. But this country is not a triangle. They are forgetting the most important component of any nation: the people. Who is going to talk for the people? If the Maoists are not, if the political parties are not, if they don't want to, then shouldn't the King? Someone must.

TIME: I've heard that a lot, that many people wish the parties could just put personal ambition aside, forget the competition to be Prime Minister and the rivalry and the corrupt rewards of office, and plain grow up.
Gyanendra: Well, you said it, not me. But I wish the political leadership would understand this and speak more often about the people rather than issues which are irrelevant, which only concern their own betterment.

You see, I see myself as accountable to the people. If they don't want to be, then I'm sorry. Much of the ill we have suffered is not because of the democratic political system, it's because of the actors in the system. All I'm saying is stop saying 'me.' Say 'us.' Stop saying 'party.' Say 'people.' We do have our own characteristics, culture and value systems in Nepal and democracy must be, if you like, tuned into these. But if the parties start viewing issues from that point of view, I see no problem in the democratic system functioning in Nepal.

TIME: Are you worried about recent student protests demanding a republic?
Gyanendra: Should it concern me? Is that public sentiment? Yes I agree the monarchy in Nepal does conduct itself according to the aspirations and hopes of the people. It reflects those. But my government has advised me that these protests might be only pressure tactics [by political opponents]. And anyway, the government has a job to uphold the law of the land. Does the law allow them to say things like this?

TIME: What do you say to the parties' accusations that you're essentially an autocrat only interested in restoring power to the palace?
Gyanendra: If some people do not understand me, if there is mistrust and a crisis of confidence, let's do something about it. In a democracy, the street might be the place to do something, yes, but there are other ways of solving the issue: quiet diplomacy is also an accepted form of dialogue.

And, they are right, it should not be my role to point the way out of this crisis. I should not have any active responsibilities [in government]. As a constitutional monarch what I should be doing, on any issue that effects the betterment of the people, [is to] either make suggestions or warnings, or simply keep myself informed. And yet on the other hand, the reality is: the people of Nepal want to see their King, they want to hear from him. The days of royalty being seen and not heard are over. We're in the 21st century. It's not that I am taking an active role. I see it as a constructive role. If I step on some people's toes, I'm sorry. But I can assure you this: the monarchy is not going to allow anyone to usurp the fundamental rights of the people, and those who say they represent the people must learn to lead the people, not be led by them and have the courage to have a vision of prosperity for the people and the nation.

TIME: People see you as very different to your late brother, King Birendra.
Gyanendra: Too many people misunderstood my brother too. They took his kindness for weakness and they exploited that. I know many people realize how peace-loving and how development-oriented he was, but I ask them to realize how close we were. His role was very, very constructive too and I think mine is just an extension of that. The circumstances I face are slightly different so our styles are slightly different. But just because I have spelled out what I want to do does not make me any better or any worse.

TIME: What if the parties continue to refuse your demands?
Gyanendra: That means they want to carry on playing musical chairs in government. [Nepal has had 12 governments since the arrival of parliamentary democracy in 1990.] But is that what we really want? And I think they are realizing that I am serious.

TIME: How close is Nepal to becoming, as many have warned, a failed state?
Gyanendra: It's not happening. It's a cliché that you all love. There is a vacuum, yes, a political vacuum. And whatever efforts the security agencies are making will come to little unless this is filled. Previous governments did not have the foresight, the tactfulness to address the issues, the poverty of the common man. Or they addressed in such an inhuman way that those areas developed into the hot spots we have today.

TIME: How important is international military assistance from the US, UK and India in the current conflict?
Gyanendra: I would prefer if you'd asked me, 'Should there be more.' We cannot view terror in hues and colors. It only has one color. Red, the color of danger. The government is grateful that so many countries are supporting us in this; the fact that their help could have been more expeditious is another thing, but no one wants to see a 'one-party proletariat state' in Nepal. And for the US in particular, we all know terror is their main agenda: so we are not surprised, because of the way terrorism is lifting its head in our country, that they are so forthright here.

But I can tell you that I am very proud of the way our security forces are conducting themselves on the minimal [equipment] they have. It's really shoe-string circumstances. But they're coping. That Nepali resilience is there.

TIME: What about the accusations, and documented cases, of human rights abuses by the armed forces?
Gyanendra: Well, I hope you will also mention the documented human rights abuses by the Maoists.

TIME: Yes. Actually, I've documented them myself.
Gyanendra: Then I would say we're learning. I will not say that there have not been remises. But at the same time, action has been taken against the violators. It may not be as quick as many people wanted, but there is a due process of law in these things.

But do you mean to tell me that earlier on, when other so-called governments of the day were in power, there were no human rights abuses? It's all cropping up [as an issue] now. But is it because the security agencies are becoming effective that these questions are being asked, or because they are failing? Is it success that is leading to this? In the case of the army alone, they were not deployed before 2001 and now they are. But which country does not have friendly fire, which does not have accidents? Many people have told me that the Fourth Estate is being unkind to the security agencies.

TIME: What happened on the night of June 1, 2001?
Gyanendra: I wish I knew. I was not here. I can only tell you what I have been told by surviving members of my family. The report that came out of the commission that investigated this clearly indicated who was responsible. I can tell you what happened. But I cannot tell you why. [The conspiracy theories] are nonsense, wild goose chases. If some people do not want to accept this, then it's a sad thing. And the people putting them out there are being cruel. It's offensive.

TIME: But given the unfortunate manner in which you came to throne, have you felt your acceptance by the country, your legitimacy, has been damaged?
Gyanendra: My question is, 'If the Crown Prince had lived, would the kingdom have accepted him, knowing all the facts. [Dipendra, the heir to the throne, lived in a coma for two days and was briefly crowned King before dying.] My whole, prime and first effort when I came to the throne was for the consolidation of the monarchy. From reports that I was hearing, there was a conspiracy to get rid of the institution.

TIME: How traumatized were you, was your family, by the massacre?
Gyanendra: I am a human being, after all. But we all show our grief, happiness and joy in different ways. And I had to conduct myself in a proper manner and tried to do that. There is a human face to every King, but that does not mean he has to flaunt it. And it was not only a tragic personal loss, it was a national loss. We personally lost a benefactor and the nation lost a noble King. It was a black spot on our history that will never be wiped out, but that's the reality of life that we have to face and we have to get on with the future.

TIME: Has it been lonely since?
Gyanendra: It is lonely. I miss my brothers and my sisters. But we have learned to cope. And I don't think it's that bad. What makes you think I don't have friends? What makes you think that because I meet you here I do not have a den? Many people have been there.

TIME: It must be uncomfortable though, living here, in the same palace where so many of your family died.
Gyanendra: I left this palace when I got married 30 years ago and I never thought I would have to occupy it again. It is difficult, but we have done the best we can. After all, it's the occupants that transform a house to a home and that's what we've been trying to do.

TIME: What's it like being a living god?
Gyanendra: I've been waiting for you to ask this. On the question of the living-god thing, let me interpret it this way: we were given the personification of Vishnu and Vishnu is the preserver of all things. And I'm glad that my role—the role I have to play—has been spelled out like that, just as it is in the constitution. But I'm a pragmatic and practical person. I've never said I'm God.

TIME: Do you think the monarchy, and Nepal's continuing feudalism, needs to reform in the 21st century?
Gyanendra: Yes. I do think we have to look at and adapt to society and culture. We need to be in keeping with the times. By that I mean all of Nepal should have the opportunity to progress irrespective of color, caste and creed. This needs to be put into practice.

TIME: Outline what you see in Nepal's future.
Gyanendra: With discipline, dedication and determination, prosperity.

TIME: What keeps you awake at night?
Gyanendra: I work hard enough to get a good night's sleep every night. But you know, there is a saying here: if the people are happy, the King is happy. And my fear is that we might be heading for a ditch if the people, their grievances and their betterment are not thought of. I put myself in their shoes every night. Why are these things not being addressed? If anything keeps my awake, it's that.


- http://www.time.com/time/asia/2004/nepal_king/nepal_intvu_extended.html
 
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Posted on 03-31-06 1:50 PM     Reply [Subscribe]
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Ham jayega,
so is asking, basking, biking, hiking, and so on...
:-)
 
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who said you to agree with me.....when you can see the curropt politician and at the same time talking in one of the thread people who are jealous of the king sees king misusing money,,are you kidding?????? ??????????
so i can see clearley your standards on king and party...who said u that i support political parties?i know political parites are curropted..king is misusing lots of money just in short period of time and i can see in coming years he will be using more..no doubt..
i can see king speech flow so good...but at the same time i can see his action that opposes his speech......
The meaning of double standard is you guys can see political parties curropted..no doubt in this,...and when you can see infront of your eyes king and his family misusing lots of money then there comes thats his wishes, he does whatever he want....
just because king means he is supposed to use country money as much as he like..
Do you know when king start doing like that then there comes hatred..and makes people in confusion is he there to serve country or is he there to serve himself?????..
i know maiost is one of the major problem...i can see the manupalting side from both maoist and king....and leave those party...they always fighted for the seat...all i want to say is the country should be under democratic rule with a new leader...thats what i hope...
 
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>bring them all together in one forum and make them compromise.

But (a big one), how??
There are three sides to the equation, parties, maobadis and the king. I see that the king is always asking for a consensus candidates for the new government. But the parties reject that? Why? They cannot comeup with the list of candidates that they want the nation to lead. All the corrupt parties want the chair and unwilling to compromise. If they were smart they should comeup with a list of candidates to form a new government and one person to lead and then do what ever necessary to take care of the nation. They cannot even do that how can we expect them to do anything??
 
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>Who said you to agree with me?
You didnt for sure. I did. You have a pms problem, aunty?
;-)
 
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8 c..i am neither your aunty..come up with reasonable answer instead of bakbakbak..okay..
 
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they don't want to compromise with the king because he is not willing to give up any power. whatever government would be formed, he would still lead it and impose his tyranny in there. ahile cha ni government nepal ma, ho testai. how can the parties deal with someone like him?? that is why tehy are intensifying the revolution so that at point or another, the king will get thier message. but if we goo on calling parties corrupt and problematic, again,we will never a reach a solution k. the parties have made mistakes, the maosits have commited blunders and extreme human abuse and our state, the king led government is even worse. but unless, you want to step forward and lead our country, for the moment, we have to support all three groups, no matter how much we hate them. they are the ones capable of pulling us out of this shit.
 
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The political demographic in Nepal reminds of the movie "HERO" with Jet Li. In the movie there are many assassins including Jet Li who wants to kill the king. But in the end, he realizes the theme of "all under heaven". Meaning all under one rule would be better for the country as a whole rather than the country broken down into different factions.
 
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>i am neither your aunty..
You do sound like my aunty though. She is in her middle age and always bitter. You remind me of her she does have few good sides though..

>come up with reasonable answer instead of bakbakbak..okay..
Ok I will try aunty, oops sorry! (My aunt would have said the same thing)

lfc123,
>They don't want to compromise with the king because he is not willing to give up any power.
Just for argument shake lets say you are correct, but who is?? If they were shart enough they could compromise with the king, form a government and make the changes thay want. Do elections and what ever is needed. But what do they do, they go and shake hands with the maobadis.. go figure their logic??

>that is why tehy are intensifying the revolution so that at point or another, the king will get thier message.
They are not going anywhere with this agenda. The king has understood them but the parties fail to understand the king.

>we have to support all three groups, no matter how much we hate them. they are the ones capable of pulling us out of this shit.
I agree but they are unwilling to compromise. Just by reading the news and interviews it does seem that the king is willing to compromise but the maobadis are not. The parties are with the maobadis so where do you see the "shit" coming to an end?
 
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8 c..you don't talk instead you keep on saying bro,aunty..i don't like anybody saying like this to me..think you are in the middle of 40 sounds like that...

Just by reading the news and interviews it does seem that the king
I don't know how much you read..i have one question when the maiost declared for the ceasefire why did the king think they were just saying like that and king didn't believe the maiost?????? i think king is not willing to come to any solution so that he can stay in power????? can you give me answer without any hesitation????
 
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how do u compromise wiht a king who prisions u, steals ur telephone sets, cut off ur phone, orders to throw cold water at you when u r protesting in teh street...and as for giving up power, it was not the king's power to begin with.....the seven parties ar teh multiparties and they have the right to government...why should they give up power? as for corrpution, yes they are pretty darn corrupt,but again, they are our leaders.
the king has not understood the parties and his citizens. if he had really understood them, he would have renunciated from teh throne a longgg time agoo...allll he understands is power and power it is.
yes, our groups are willing to compromise. didnt' the maosists and teh parties comprise and reach an agree...they dont' wnat to deal with teh king right now because the king isss soo dictatorial. if the king gives up power and invites them to the table, they would come..they have come before tooo...twice!!
 
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VIRTUALLY IN EVERY THREAD, SOME KIND OF FIGHTS GOING ON, COME ON ! PPL
 
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Expect it purush, as long as lfc is around....lol....
lfc le malai marne bho aba....
 
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purush,
we are not fighting. we are having a difference of opinions, to put it in a very diplomatic way......hehe.
ani arko kura, sajha would be sooo boring, if we didnt' have these "difference of opionions"...a lot more peaceful, but borringg( i definetely do not feel the same way about real world though)

lonely baby
don't be afraid. as long as lfc is around, u will see action.
 
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IFC, DON'T TELL BABY TO OTHERS, THAT HURTS ME!! WOULD YOU USE THAT FOR ME ONCE??
 
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"WOULD YOU USE THAT FOR ME ONCE??"
awww ..so sweet purush baby. tara a peice of advice, u wanna get women, play hard to get..nothing makes women want u more....a little bit of intellect also does not hurt, FYI.
 
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EVEN THOSE WHO LACK AN INTELLECT DESERVE A GIRL, HAINA RA IFC? PLS DODN'T BE CRUEL TO ME, AS SUCH I DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME OTHER THAN FOR THIS KIND OF SIDE HANNE KYA.

I WILL TAKE INTELLECT EXAM LATER HUNNA RA BABY?? HUNCHHA BHANA KYA, TARA MALAI ARKO DATE MA JANE BELA BHAYEKO CHHA, CATCH U LATER HONEY
 
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>.think you are in the middle of 40 sounds like that...
I am honored. Only you have problem with age not me..

> the king has not understood the parties and his citizens.
Its the other way around. The king has repeatedly asked for negotations, who is ignoring, your leaders. YOu cannot blame king for this..

>didnt' the maosists and teh parties comprise and reach an agree..
Yes ideed they did. These party goons will sell their own mother for a buck and I was not suprised they agreed on the "understanding" endorsed, prepared by maobadis with no mention of non-violance. This is not the party-maoist agreement rahter it is parties joining maobadi camp. I had said that when I read the agreement here in sajha.

>they dont' wnat to deal with teh king right now because the king isss soo dictatorial.
Thats bull. They cannot come up with a candidate that can lead the government and the ministers that they all can agree.

King has repeatedly asked for negotiations, these goons and their followers want more turmoil, more killings and more choas if that was not true then they would do everything that only hurts the nation?
 
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I don't know wachu all think, but after reading the interview, felt little secured. but i hope the king will do exactly wat he told to TIME MAGAZINE.

KING is a KING...nobody can take that shit from him. It's a long process. But if you look at the situation rite now in NEPAL. we need PEACE, one more time PEACE, no more ta chad ra ma chad, and somebody gotta do it. Who could be - I see THE KING, NOT THOSE PUNK ASS MOFUKERZ 7 PARTYS. AS i said earlier i don't favor KING nor 7 PARTYZ, but thse partyz just pisses me off looking back 15 - 16 years of democracy moment.

THERE WAS NOOOOO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRACY. IT WAS MORE LIKE A PARTYZ DEMOCRACY. SOO WAT'S THE USE IF THESE PARTYS DON'T THINK ABOUT PEOPLE AND JUST JACK MONEY, FOREIGN AID AND Think about their only own people benefits.....ETC......... THIS is how MAoists came into play because they were not satisfied with the government's policy - just thinking about the major cities and their own people.

These 7 partyz and all those DUMB followers mofukers are destroying NEPAL rite now. Actually not rite now, but since democracy movement. Who's been vandalizing the sidewalks, burning busses n tires... I DON'T THINK IT'S THE KING.

It's always good to be RULED by OOOONNNEEEEE person than 7 people.

Lemme break it down the 7 partys story. IF they get the power back....they all gonna divide one more time and 6 partys gonna strike the 1 party..... if not other partys gonna strike for other partys in order to JACK MONEY.

There has been ups and downs while the king taking over power, but wasn't back then.

Something to think about.

If i'm wrong, correct me.

OOOONE.

NEPBLOODZ.
 
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hope i aint intruding!hehe..but just felt the need to type smthing..typing mood ma chu!!WOOHOOOO!be scared ppl be scared!;oP hehe...i mean blame the caffiene!!wahahaha ;oP hehe...

kinda had a crackn time readin the article hehe...but this paragraph was just too much!!!its the caffiene i tell u!!!wahahahahaa ;oP hehe

quote,

TIME: What keeps you awake at night?
Gyanendra:
I work hard enough to get a good night's sleep every night. But you know, there is a saying here: if the people are happy, the King is happy. And my fear is that we might be heading for a ditch if the people, their grievances and their betterment are not thought of. I put myself in their shoes every night. Why are these things not being addressed? If anything keeps my awake, it's that.


unquote

well duh!couldnt stop imaginin our king actually doin tat!!!u know ..i dunno about u all..but imagining our king with a sad face.. grimace and all..while tryn our small tight shoes which wont fit him!!!will it fit?..urghhh :oS hehe...i cant stop crackn up!!wahahahaha ;oP hehe....dyam!aint i evul!:o| crackn up on someones 'misery'?:o| hehe
its the caffeine i tell u!!!!:@...blame it!!!not me !;oP hehe...

anyways thats that...have to say really good article :oD...ShresthaN cheers for sharing it ;o)...noticed it was dated 2004...strange..cos i dun really notice dates ;oP hehe..so 2 yrs gone by?any change?for the good?...i dunno...i try not to think about it :oD...someone tell me pls!!!!and more importantly convince me?and me thick headed mind?;oP hehe

anyways got one more yr left?hoina? ;oP hehe..i mean..i thot i read smwhere..he wanted 3 yrs?...me memory is shit!so dun mind me if im typing some wrong info here hehe...well lookn foward to see if theres any progress...a bit of change?for the good?hehe...as long as its for the good..does time matter?:oD

anyways..hopefully watever happens...hopefully it be for the good of nepal!for nepal!and its ppl..(including me!ma pani ta nepali ho!duh!dun forget me :o( hehe.. yes yes!i was thinkin about me in the end it seems :oS...;oP hehe)..

ok seems caffiene is gettn out of me system :oS..but before that leaves me:o(...hehe...smthing came to me mind..and hope it doesnt piss off the king or anyone else..hehe...shit im gettn scared here!:o| hehe...

anywys hehe.
quote,
TIME: Outline what you see in Nepal's future.
Gyanendra: With discipline, dedication and determination, prosperity.

wat if...reality was actually...read inside the brackets ;oP hehe..

TIME: Outline what you see in Nepal's future.
Gyanendra: With discipline(tyranny!), dedication(tyranny!) and determination(tyranny!), prosperity(I be king of Nepal!!WOOHOOOO!!..oops aint i already the king?;oP hehe)....

anyways...has anyone been curious enuf to email Alex perry?the writer of this article..just to ask how many days in advance did he give pass the questions?just curious ke :oS..urghh i know wat they say about curiosity :oS...dyam daar lagyo!!wahahaha ;oP hehe....duh!im sure there was no advance time given hoina ;o) hehe..but u know..just to be sure ..shud ask hoina?if u dun ask..how will u know?;oP hehe...shudnt assume hoina?;oP hehe...

and well one more yr?isnt that how much he asked for?so well...wat can we do anyways..than type type type re kya ;oP hehe..seriously 2 yrs gone by so fast?:o| hehe...ok ok enuf of thinkn..and typin ;oP hehee

Happy Nepali New Year!...2063!!!(just found out the nepali yr ;oP hehe thanks shanks ta bhannu parna hola ni?;oP hehe)...

good day!..and Jai Nepal!!!:oD

 
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maoist ideology sounds great?
WHAT?
what communist ideology has ever failed to solve this paradox:
to attain a classless society, there needs to exist a central government (a ruling class) who knows best and whose lead the rest of the nation must follow
 



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